Couple of questions

[VapingNoob]

Hi all, my first post on the Chuck forum

I've ordered the large chuck, also with the sleeve, and I've also ordered some green CR2 batteries in anticipation of 6v vaping. Though after doing further reading I've decided I don't want to use the unprotected batteries.

Which leads me on to my first question, is the sleeve just a removable metal tube you can slide in and out of the chuck ? ie, since I want to use protected batteries now, but I've already paid for the sleeve.

And... I don't know much about protected batteries, or LiFeP04 batteries... so I have the following choices;

Protected
Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - 4 RCR123A 3.0V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Protected Batteries with a Smart Charger

or

LiFeP04
Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger -Specials

Tenergy to me, after reading the ECF forums, seem to have a good reputation for vaping, so I'm happy with the brand. Just not sure about the difference in mAh, and or why one set is called protected, and the other is LiFeP04 when I figured they would both be considered protected. Different tech ?

I'm leaning more toward the LiFeP04 batts purely because "Never explode or catch fire" sounds awesome to me, I want to keep my face as is. Though I feel I'll be missing out on extra useage time if I go with the 750mAh batts over the 900mAh protected ones.

Any thoughts or info would be much appreciated.

Btw, I'm really liking this idea of creating your own artwork for the Chuck, I may consider ordering another unit just for the different artwork lol.

 

[NativeTexan]

I've been using the lifePO4's for about 2 months and I have had no problems thus far.

Vaping time for me with them is around 16 hours vaping moderately. Heavy vaping, I'd say around 4-6 hours and that's pretty near chain vaping for me.

I don't have any experience with the protected ones, but I may be in the market for some since my girlfriend is timid about using unprotected batteries. The ultrafire protected batteries from madvapes seem to be too big for my Chuck.

 

[VapingNoob]

Found this via google, clears things up for me about the difference between protected and LiFeP04;

LiFePO4 or Protected R123A's? same? mystery? - CandlePowerForums

6th post down for the full read.

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"Li-Fe-Po or Li-Fe" , lower max voltage , safer chemistry, not so great capacity, cool because they ARE lower voltage chemistry by default, usefull for boost type lights that cant handle excessive voltage, wont blow off your dingleberries. "safer" chemistry, still have a voltage range that needs to be respected.

"li-ion" , doesnt say its protected does it, unsafe without proper care, also it doesnt say Much Ado About Anything really wear a cup.

"Protected Li-Ion" , has protection curcuit on it, safer for charge and discharge. protection fixes the 2.4v thing so you dont have to think aboud it (as much). protections attempt to keep the volitile cell much safer, but the chemistry is still the same.
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Think I'll go with the protected.

 

[beecee]

Oops I didn't order the sleeve!

Didn't mean to hijack but...oops!

 

[Houdini]

Oops I didn't order the sleeve!

Didn't mean to hijack but...oops!

Use 2 RCR123A's or one 18650 and you won't need a sleeve.
Nice new avatar!

 

[beecee]

Use 2 RCR123A's or one 18650 and you won't need a sleeve.
Nice new avatar!

ok, phew!! I did order and receive the RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 and the 18650.

Had a lil heart attack.


And thanks, Sporting my hair horns hah

 

[Pete54]

Either one of those CR123's will work fine. I use the LiFePo4's and have had no problems. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would get a sleeve to use lower mAh unsafe batteries. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Houdini]

Either one of those CR123's will work fine. I use the LiFePo4's and have had no problems. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would get a sleeve to use lower mAh unsafe batteries. Maybe I'm missing something?

I guess it's for anyone who already had a pile of those CR2 batteries and wanted to use them then they would need the sleeve.

 

[MastiffMike]

Either one of those CR123's will work fine. I use the LiFePo4's and have had no problems. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would get a sleeve to use lower mAh unsafe batteries. Maybe I'm missing something?

To run at 6v requires 2 batts and thus the sleeve b/c the diameter is different.

 

[beecee]

To run at 6v requires 2 batts and thus the sleeve b/c the diameter is different.

ok, so I do need a sleeve regardless of the battery type if I want to use 6v?


Thagbuilt says:
(2) 3.0 volt batteries can also be used for a 6 volt option. CR123's will work as-is.
(2) CR2's will require a battery sleeve, available for $5

ok, so what I am reading is that if I have CR123's I shouldn't need the sleeve


Sorry for hijacking.

 

[MastiffMike]

The measurements of CR2's are 15mmx27mm, CR123's are 16mmx34mm, thus the sleeve to keep CR2's from rattling around?

 

[Houdini]

You won't need a sleeve. Only if you use the CR2's will you need a sleeve. The RCR123's and CR123's are OK as is.

 

[Pete54]

To run at 6v requires 2 batts and thus the sleeve b/c the diameter is different.

You can use 2X3v CR123's to get 6v. No sleeve needed. Just make sure that you don't buy 3.7v CR123's. As Houdini said, the only possible reason for using CR2's is if you have a pile of them. Frankly, I'd toss them and buy CR123's anyhow because they last a lot longer and are much safer due to Protection.

 

[beecee]

Ahh I see, thanks guys, you're awesome.

Helped this confused little chica.

 

[MastiffMike]

You can use 2X3v CR123's to get 6v. No sleeve needed. Just make sure that you don't buy 3.7v CR123's. As Houdini said, the only possible reason for using CR2's is if you have a pile of them. Frankly, I'd toss them and buy CR123's anyhow because they last a lot longer and are much safer due to Protection.

The CR123's would last longer (thus the higher mAh rating) but if you've already got CR2's (and they're protected, some aren't) there's no reason (other than battery life) to not use them.

Just my $.01

 

[Pete54]

The CR123's would last longer (thus the higher mAh rating) but if you've already got CR2's (and they're protected, some aren't) there's no reason (other than battery life) to not use them.

Just my $.01

Except for the fact that the only protected CR2 that is available trips the protection circuit when using a regular 510 atty at 6v because the atty overworks the battery. They work with HV 510 atty's or 801s and 901s. The 510 atty at 2.3ohms with trip it over and over.