I am facing a little problem. 5 pawns juices are giving me a rather harsh throat feeling for their 6mg juices. I was told by a friend to get tanks with much lesser airflow such as the kayfun lite. Will that help? i tried it on TFV4 mini, griffin rta, Twisted messes, bellus and OBS crius V3. all still giving the harsh throat feeling...
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If you are capable of properly adjusting any of those tanks, I don't see changing to a low air flow tank fixing the problem.
At best, it reduces the amount of e-liquid you Vaporize at a time. This usually allows for higher nic usage or saving money.
Have you let the e-liquids steep or are they Pre-steeped before shipment?
Often liquids are harsh when freshly mixed and mellow with aging.(steeping)
I will say, since moving to High volume tanks, I have cut my nic to 3mg/ml. The Nic was to strong, but the Flavor was great.
At best, it reduces the amount of e-liquid you Vaporize at a time. This usually allows for higher nic usage or saving money.
Have you let the e-liquids steep or are they Pre-steeped before shipment?
Often liquids are harsh when freshly mixed and mellow with aging.(steeping)
I will say, since moving to High volume tanks, I have cut my nic to 3mg/ml. The Nic was to strong, but the Flavor was great.
I have never tried 5 Pawns. I usually vape eliquids from more budget friendly vendors. However, for my taste, creams, custards, and some bakery flavors do not start to "come into their own" until they have steeped for at least two weeks. For me, it does not make a big difference as far as the hardware I am using. I was using Evod Glass tanks with either Kanger single or dual coils on top of Evod 650 mah batteries until Christmas. I got a CoolFire IV for Christmas, and am currently using it with an Evod Glass and Kanger single coils for one flavor, and a Nautilus Mini for another flavor.
Do they send out presteeped eliquids? If so, how long do they presteep eliquids before shipping? I would contact the vendor and explain the problem, and let them know exactly which eliquids are giving you problems. They may be able to offer some suggestions to make it vapeable for you.
Do they send out presteeped eliquids? If so, how long do they presteep eliquids before shipping? I would contact the vendor and explain the problem, and let them know exactly which eliquids are giving you problems. They may be able to offer some suggestions to make it vapeable for you.
A tad more info would help. What wattage are you vapeing at? Five pawns basic mix is 50/50. Personally at sub-ohm levels that much PG would choke me do death. Maybe cut the nic to 3mg and change to a slightly higher VG content.
The problem is that all the tanks you listed don't particularly work very well below 20w. I truly think its the juice more than anything. I know people that can handle a 50/50 blend in a tank like say, the tfv4 but generally that would hurt most peoples throat. Those types of blends generally work well with tanks like the GS air, kanger pro tank and such. Personally my limit is about 25%pg
I vape ALL 6mg juices and mostly strawberry cream/custard/cheesecake flavours.
First thing in the morning, I won't be vaping 65-75w at 0.25ohm as it will kill my throat. No early morning dripping for me ever. Yuck. I generally start the day @ 12-13w on a 1.6-1.9ohm coil. Later in the day I tend to vape at 35w and 0.5ohms.
I mention this as the only time creamy 6mg juices bug my throat is first thing in the morning and at high wattage. Everyone is different though.
P.s. I love Five Pawns Castle Long and am currently vaping a 6mg bottle thru my SX Mini and Aromamizer tank at 65w and 0.35ohm. It can get harsh at higher temps and I assume that is due to the higher PG. The industry is going to high VG even if they don't clearly state it on packaging. I think I have become used to 70+ VG inadvertently as have many other vapers.
First thing in the morning, I won't be vaping 65-75w at 0.25ohm as it will kill my throat. No early morning dripping for me ever. Yuck. I generally start the day @ 12-13w on a 1.6-1.9ohm coil. Later in the day I tend to vape at 35w and 0.5ohms.
I mention this as the only time creamy 6mg juices bug my throat is first thing in the morning and at high wattage. Everyone is different though.
P.s. I love Five Pawns Castle Long and am currently vaping a 6mg bottle thru my SX Mini and Aromamizer tank at 65w and 0.35ohm. It can get harsh at higher temps and I assume that is due to the higher PG. The industry is going to high VG even if they don't clearly state it on packaging. I think I have become used to 70+ VG inadvertently as have many other vapers.
I see your friend's logic, but I don't know if it's the answer to your issue. A well-built Kayfun Lite will provide a totally different (not to be confused with better or worse) vaping experience than a Griffin, but if you're already used to the performance of tanks like a Griffin, you might find a Kayfun severely lacking. Couple things... Kayfun Lite is strictly a mouth to lung hitter, due to the tight airflow. That cannot be overcome regardless of how it's built. If you need lung hit capability, don't waste your time with Kayfun-type attys. Single coil deck means that yes, you will use 1/2 the juice your Griffin is sucking down, but also get (less than) half the vapor. Also, it was never intended for 50+ watt vaping. Its air and juice flow simply cannot keep up with those power levels. Finally, if you're married to max VG juice, expect to have some issues trying to suck it through the tiny juice slots of a Kayfun Lite.
Oh yeah...the bane of Kayfun funness...having to carry around a mini screwdriver and needlenose bottle for the stupidly designed refill port. Should have mentioned that first!
Were I to build a Kayfun with the above expectations in mind, I'd go 0.8 to 1.0 ohms, 26 gauge single strand Kanthal, I would use Rayon for wicking, and I would make sure the wick was just barely touching the juice deck (in other words, trim carefully so the wick hugs the side of deck and just barely touches the juice floor, as opposed to screwing on the "bottom of the chimney" ring and jamming the wick into the channels). I would then fill with 50/50 juice and vape at 25 watts max (or less) via MTL.
Not knocking the Kayfun. They were my babies back in the day, when velocity decks and 1 click regulated access to 200 watts, TC, and Griffin awesomeness didn't exist.
Personally, if you think moderation is the answer to your issue, I'd bypass the Kayfuns for something median to Griffin-ilk, but more refined than a Kayfun, like a Kanger Mini Sub. Still single coil, but with better air/juice flow, basic lung hit ability, and NO-STUPID-TINY-REFILL-SCREW.
There I'd build 0.5, 24 gauge Kanthal, cotton wick, and vape it in the 25-35 watt range, whatever ratio juice floats your boat. You're not going to get the vapor production of a Griffin, but it'll get you through the day without hassles. Mine still does...I love my RDA's and RDTA's, but a Kanger mini sub and ancient istick 50 is still what goes to work with me every day, just because it's so simple and hassle free. I can stealth-refill my mini sub with my hands under a table without even looking at it!
Juice...Been awhile, but I remember 5 Pawns as being way overflavored for my taste. Do this...try some 70vg/30 pg menthol. Even if you don't care for menthol, it's a flavor that tends to soothe rather than irritate your throat. If the harshness goes away, you can blame your issue on the 5 pawns, not the setup, which means I just wasted 20 minutes typing all the .... above.
Oh yeah...the bane of Kayfun funness...having to carry around a mini screwdriver and needlenose bottle for the stupidly designed refill port. Should have mentioned that first!
Were I to build a Kayfun with the above expectations in mind, I'd go 0.8 to 1.0 ohms, 26 gauge single strand Kanthal, I would use Rayon for wicking, and I would make sure the wick was just barely touching the juice deck (in other words, trim carefully so the wick hugs the side of deck and just barely touches the juice floor, as opposed to screwing on the "bottom of the chimney" ring and jamming the wick into the channels). I would then fill with 50/50 juice and vape at 25 watts max (or less) via MTL.
Not knocking the Kayfun. They were my babies back in the day, when velocity decks and 1 click regulated access to 200 watts, TC, and Griffin awesomeness didn't exist.
Personally, if you think moderation is the answer to your issue, I'd bypass the Kayfuns for something median to Griffin-ilk, but more refined than a Kayfun, like a Kanger Mini Sub. Still single coil, but with better air/juice flow, basic lung hit ability, and NO-STUPID-TINY-REFILL-SCREW.
There I'd build 0.5, 24 gauge Kanthal, cotton wick, and vape it in the 25-35 watt range, whatever ratio juice floats your boat. You're not going to get the vapor production of a Griffin, but it'll get you through the day without hassles. Mine still does...I love my RDA's and RDTA's, but a Kanger mini sub and ancient istick 50 is still what goes to work with me every day, just because it's so simple and hassle free. I can stealth-refill my mini sub with my hands under a table without even looking at it!Juice...Been awhile, but I remember 5 Pawns as being way overflavored for my taste. Do this...try some 70vg/30 pg menthol. Even if you don't care for menthol, it's a flavor that tends to soothe rather than irritate your throat. If the harshness goes away, you can blame your issue on the 5 pawns, not the setup, which means I just wasted 20 minutes typing all the .... above.
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Wattage is Critical, but also irrelerent.
Yes confusing.
It is Critically important to use a wattage that best delivers proper Flavor/Vapor to satisfy personal taste.
However, what wattage that is for (A) Vs. (B) is irrelevant.
One coil design may only support 12.5w reaching top performance without burning.
Another Much better build design may work best at 140w.
Both may produce a satisfying vape using (X) e-liquid.
Unless one adds Top fill Caps
Yes confusing.It is Critically important to use a wattage that best delivers proper Flavor/Vapor to satisfy personal taste.
However, what wattage that is for (A) Vs. (B) is irrelevant.
One coil design may only support 12.5w reaching top performance without burning.
Another Much better build design may work best at 140w.
Both may produce a satisfying vape using (X) e-liquid.
Unless one adds Top fill Caps
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