crippledbazooka's Revolver Gemini thread: questions, knowledge and Review

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VictoryNotVengence

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Greetings fellow vapires,
I figured since my M602 thread was so popular (888 views? really?) I would make one for my new shiny weapon as well. Here I will cronicle my experiences with this device and let you know all the tricks I learn and avoid the mistakes I make. And feel free to pipe in or take the thread in any and all directions.

Your probably as excited as me to learn about the Gemini but...I don't have it yet :). Just ordered it. My next post will be the unboxing and shipping review. Shipping is Priority USPS from the USA included free so it shouldn't be long.

Here's what I ordered:
core kit
3 pack blank carts
1 extra man. batt.

(just wanted to say this total order was less than my last qty 6 atty order for my M602)

side note: still think it should have been called the Genesis
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PS. If this can be moved to a thread where RevolverRep can post and respond in this thread admins can you please move it. Thanks.
 
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oh it came it came. joy.
Keep in mind I bought on launch day and Revolver was probably crazy busy handleing all the orders and questions.
Got a confirmation email at time of order placement.
Got a shipping confirm with tracking # 48 hours later sayin it just shipped, even though I was told it shipped on the day I ordered it. Which I belive it did, just that USPS didn't give revolver the tracking number untill then.
2 days later it arrived 4 days total - 10 for speed

Customer service- I sent an email about my tracking number and got a response about 24 hours later - again they can't be faulted as the product just launched. But they did get back to me and thats important. I had to contact them a second time as one of the man. batts. arrived DOA, when I called at a few diff times throughout the 2 days I tried to get help on this I got a VM saying I was calling outside of business hours. I did get someone late today and got that issue taken care of. Again, they are prolly swamped with all this launch stuff so expect 48 hour response time. 7 for CS

Unboxing:
Wow neet box! Now I have a new place to hold my magic deck lol. seriosly, this is prolly the only e-cig box i won't just throw out. Everything was placed exactly so and all boxes n packing had the Gemini logo - very nice. but no freebies. I guess from ordering from so many places and getting sample stuff I was kinda expecting something. some of that lemon lime juice woulda been nice. just sayin. 9 for unboxing


PCC: if the number 2 is your thing you'll think its beautiiful - personally I wish it had the elite birdy :) when this sucker is clamped shut you know it will stay closed. that lids only coming up if you use a little force. the PCC is smaller than a 100 hard pack of analogs but holds so much stuff. 5 cart holes, 1 atty and cart hole, 1 batt hole you push the battery down to charge, you don't have to screw it in...genius, 1 charging hole. an atty will fit in a cart hole by itself. The charging LED is very bright, you can use it to find stuff in the dark its so bright, and the usb part lights up to - havn't seen this on an e-cig setup before. PCC gets a 10

Hardware: iz goud. me like


No serously, I'm gonna vape it for a few days before I review the actual ecig. From my experience, the e-cig you take out of the box on the first day is not the same e-cig you have a week later. So before I share my thoughts on that I will run it through its paces.
 

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aw I don't like it.

battery: 2hours charge, even if you don't use it, after 2 hours no battery life. Charging time is 2 hours. but sometimes the LED indicator is still lit, if you pull the bat out and put it back in sometimes the LED goes off. Smart PCC? more like "not a total idot" pcc

atomizer: its an l2 510 atty, I never had one to compare but recent posts about the washer with the bridge peeking through lead me to belive thats what it is

vapor: meh, its 510 vapor, alot of vapor but it is "thin" vapor comparred to my M602 which has thick vapor.

throat hit: it has one, which is more than i can say for my disposable 510. With polyfill that is, more to come on that.

flavor: does come through more than a reg 510 but is lite compared to the "roasted" taste of vapor i get off the M602

the look: silver connectors instead of gold which i like. the number 2 on the atty if you like the number 2 i guess.

carts: juice in mouth? yes please! the carts on this thing are the worst part. it has a small cart like you see in the pics on revolver site with a smaller cart that sits inside and ontop of the smaller cart like a "T" in a "U" if you can picture it. they claimed that this model won't leak juice around the atty/cart connection which is a plus but it does leak in your mouth, I'd prefer to have to wipe the ecig then wipe my toung. the air vents on the side of the cart go all the way down to the mouthpeice hole which is diff than a reg 510 cart, those have a sort of wall as a last line of defense against juicemouth. when you vape the juice condenses around the top T part of the cart and if you set the ecig LED up when not vaping it runs right down to the mouth hole. also blank carts don't have caps but revolver says they will have caps soon and will send me caps for the blanks I have.

*edit - found that the atty was severly flooded, juice in mouth is down to every 7th hit or so.

I tried to fix this! i wanted to like my gemini. I blue foamed the cart which instantly took away all throat hit which is weird cause i didn't think TH depended on the cart filler. and also store the ecig LED down. I still get juice in the mouth but say every 7th drag instead of every 3rd.

I guess the draw of the Gemini is the sleek and effective PCC and the yet to be released heavy hitting atomizer. sorry if you all were expecting a better review but so far i am not impressed.

However it did goad me into a spending spree of new models cause I was angry. I figured i've already spent $700 on ecig stuff in the last 40 days might as well make it an even 1K so I bought the 902 and the juicebox today, look forward to seeing reviews on them as well.

Any suggestions on the cart?
 
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still getting juice in mouth though.

sounds like you should practice more on your cartridge building. the carts even though they are on top work no different than other cartridges for other models. once you put the cartridge inside the atty it is the same as say... blu's cartridge. i dont get any juice in the mouth ever.
 

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I've had the Gemini Duo kit for just over a week now, which includes the heavy hitter atomizer. To round out the package I also purchased the usb car adapter, usb battery charger, and three e-liquids: tobacco red, triple five blend, and cherry.

Atomizers
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I don't know the technical specifications of the atomizer, but I can give you my take based on a week's usage compared to the standard "red" atomizer.

Overall I've found the heavy hitter to be the smoother hitting of the two units. The heavy hitter yields a fluffier mouthful of flavor and vapor as compared to the standard. The actual vapor output is only slightly more, but it looks and feels fuller. I don't think it's the miracle atomizer that everyone's hoping for, but it's definitely a little more satisfying than the standard.

I'm throwing around subjective terms, so allow me to explain the standard atomizer comparatively. While not at all bad, it's harsher than the heavy hitter. The flavor seems to hit me in the back of the throat along with a slight taste of the atomizer after a long pull, and the vapor output is more airy. Conversely, flavor from the heavy hitter tends to be more diffused without any atomizer taste.

If I had to come up with an analogy, I'd say that the heavy hitter is whole milk, and the standard is 2%. Though there is a downside: for some reason I seem to get a stronger throat hit with the standard atomizer (and I define throat hit as the resistance I feel from the vapor being drawn into the upper respiratory tract). It's definitely there with the heavy hitter, but it just takes an optimally filled cart or a focused pull to achieve. All that said, if I had to just pick one or the other it'd be the heavy hitter.

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Tobacco red is very nice. It has a sweet tobacco flavor with very subtle cherry after taste. Triple Five is equally good. It has a more dry roasted tobacco taste with a hazelnut undertone. And tastes may vary, but I can't stand the cherry liquid. It has a black cherry flavor that's annoyingly artificial, and once I vaped it, it was hard to get off of my palette and atomizers. In addition to my gripes, I couldn't get a decent throat hit no matter how good of a pull. The tobacco red tends to be a little sweet, so after I can't take it anymore I switch to the triple five, which tends to be a little dry. And on and on I go. I'd be very interested to hear if anyone's tried the hotel or golden liquids and how they compare to the other tobacco flavors.

Batteries
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The kit came with one each type of battery, manual and auto. I'd have to say that I like the manual battery more, although I tend to chain vape so it run it down pretty quickly. As reported, once drained the batteries take about two hours to fully charge, and the PCC takes slightly longer. I don't know if this is normal 510-ish behavior, but from other reports the charge time seems excessive. With careful planning I've managed to make it through each work day just fine, but I find myself looking for a usb passthrough for my marathon chain-vaping evenings.

I did run into an issue where my manual battery button popped off, and then later encountered another problem which caused it stay pressed internally killing the battery. I emailed customer service and had a new one in three days at no charge. Of the two, I prefer the manual. With it, I get a consistent throat hit enough to keep me away from analogs.

The PCC
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The PCC is internally cramped. To maximize carrying capacity they made the slots for carts a little too close together which often requires removing multiple carts to get at the one you're aiming for. Not a big deal. The material inside is hard white plastic instead of rubbery foam. The downside is that things rattle around inside and liquid from re-filled carts ends up in places where it ideally shouldn't. Again, not a huge deal. If Revolver had a cap solution for the carts this would be a non-issue (hopefully soon). Overall though it's pretty damn good. Same unit as the Blu or Volcano PCC, just modified to accommodate a larger battery type (both auto and manual). It holds two batteries (one charging slot), one assembled atty/cart combo, and five cart slots, one of which can be used to store the spare atty. For what it is and what it does, I think Revolver did a great job here. A couple of gripes on my part, but nothing major.

Sorry for the long-winded reply.
 

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Hey crippledbazooka, let me know how you think this product compares to the M601/602 (which may be my next e-cig). You briefly mentioned this in part one of your review, and I'd just like to know what you think after you've had more time with the Gemini. Thanks :)

no comparison M602 is the better. I still love my first PV. but also see aaall past posts about atty life on that model (make sure to get the 10 pack from abecig for $75) you'll need it. But I actually prefer the 902 above all others at the moment. I'm still testing the Gemini heavy hitting atty for review but I'm having a hard time cause of the battery charging, and slow pcc charging. Also still getting juice in mouth with the carts. I think i need the usb battery charger before i can really use it long enough to form an opionon. ow well, maybe after income tax check.
 
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