Crispy Coils

[JCinFLA]

Question for those who say wicking material doesn't affect coil gunking -

I've been using the same DIY as my ADV for more than 1.5 years. Always used KohGenDo for wicking until about 8-10 months ago when I switched to rayon. I didn't change how much eliquid I vaped per day, the tank I was using, nor the wattage I vaped at. Yet my coils didn't "gunk up" as quickly using rayon as they always did using cotton. With cotton I could go 2 full days. With rayon it was 3-3.5 days. The only variable that changed was my wicking material. So, what caused the difference, if it was not the change in wicking material?

 

[stols001]

Well not lickety split, but yes I will praise rayon. I do believe it gunks up less fast than cotton period (at whatever wattage). You may still have a coil gunker or two with rayon, but I do think it may last (slightly) longer using rayon.

Rayon in RTAs makes sense, it's a much more forgiving wicking than cotton although some prefer the taste of cotton and an RBA, by design will leak much less.

Rayon solved ALL my wicking problems. You can even (if you so desire) rinse your rayon wicks with distilled water (although frankly, it's really not that much less work than just rewicking) should you so desire with gunky juices, (or flavor changes, that is where it makes a bit more sense) and the rayon holds up quite well, someone mentioned it at one point, so I decided to give it a whirl. It can be surprisingly effect if the wick is still fairly new and well wicked. I do that sometimes testing flavors, but even the time I just tried to reuse it, well it held up surprisingly well and etc.

I'm trying to identify some down sides to rayon, and I guess some prefer the taste of cotton, especially high quality cotton, but rayon solved ALL my wicking problems (I use RTAs pretty much exclusively).

You would not have told me I'd ever take an RTA out of the house, but then rayon happened. LOL.

Anna

 

[zoiDman]

... Right now I am cleaning the coils and replacing the cotton twice a day. Any other marshmallow flavors out there? Is there anything I can do to lessen the wear on the coils while using this flavor combination?

Just me.

But If you are Cleaning and Re-Wicking your coils Twice a Day, I don't think switching to Rayon is going to help all that much. Because it Sounds like there is some Fundamental Problem with what/how you are vaping.

Maybe your Wattage is Way to High? Or your Atomizer isn't right for your Style of Vaping? Or maybe you Vape a Very Large amount of ml's/day? Or maybe a some or all of the Above?

What, exactly, are you using to Vape with? And How Many Milliliters of e-Liquid to you use in a Average Day?

 

[Edwin Betz]

I am using a Steam Crave Aromamizer and usually push 10-15ml a day. I'm only pushing 40-50w at the most. Tried lower wattage but it wouldn't vape right. I haven't tried this flavor in any of my other tanks yet. Mostly because I really like the flavor and clouds from this one until my coils get gunked up (usually about 2-4 hours, depending on how much I hit my vape)

 

[zoiDman]

I am using a Steam Crave Aromamizer and usually push 10-15ml a day. I'm only pushing 40-50w at the most. Tried lower wattage but it wouldn't vape right. I haven't tried this flavor in any of my other tanks yet. Mostly because I really like the flavor and clouds from this one until my coils get gunked up (usually about 2-4 hours, depending on how much I hit my vape)

That setup Doesn't sound all that Extreme. But only getting about 1 Tank before you need to Clean a Coil and Re-Wick?

If you have Tried different Cotton wicking techs, Yeah try Rayon. It just sounds like Something else is going on.

BTW - When you say your Coils get Gunked Up, you mean that the Hit Starts to taste Bad. Right?

 

[Edwin Betz]

That setup Doesn't sound all that Extreme. But only getting about 1 Tank before you need to Clean a Coil and Re-Wick?

If you have Tried different Cotton wicking techs, Yeah try Rayon. It just sounds like Something else is going on.

BTW - When you say your Coils get Gunked Up, you mean that the Hit Starts to taste Bad. Right?

Hit tastes bad and coils look pretty much like burnt marshmallows.

 

[zoiDman]

Hit tastes bad and coils look pretty much like burnt marshmallows.

My Coils with turn Black as Coal very quickly. But the taste is Fine for maybe 30 or 40 ml's.

Maybe that e-Liquid is just a CGLFH (Coil Gunking Liquid from Hell)? Have you tried adding a few drops of Water to a Tank's worth of e-Liquid?

 

[Edwin Betz]

My Coils with turn Black as Coal very quickly. But the taste is Fine for maybe 30 or 40 ml's.

Maybe that e-Liquid is just a CGLFH (Coil Gunking Liquid from Hell)? Have you tried adding a few drops of Water to a Tank's worth of e-Liquid?

No, but sounds good. I'll give it a try. Thanks.

 

[Opinionated]

Question for those who say wicking material doesn't affect coil gunking -

I've been using the same DIY as my ADV for more than 1.5 years. Always used KohGenDo for wicking until about 8-10 months ago when I switched to rayon. I didn't change how much eliquid I vaped per day, the tank I was using, nor the wattage I vaped at. Yet my coils didn't "gunk up" as quickly using rayon as they always did using cotton. With cotton I could go 2 full days. With rayon it was 3-3.5 days. The only variable that changed was my wicking material. So, what caused the difference, if it was not the change in wicking material?

Maybe because Rayon doesn't wick quite as well as JOC?

I don't know why you had that experience - but it likely is due to the fact rayon in some way wicks more consistently with your vaping style...

Gunked coils however, has everything to do with sweetener and flavorings carmelizing on your coils.. rayon is not going to affect that aspect at all, because it doesn't change the properties of your juice..



You might consider then that rayon keeps more ejuice away from your coil, due to inefficient wicking in comparison to JOC and therefore it simply fits the way you vape better.

I can guarantee you that was never my experience with rayon, which I tried..

 

[JCinFLA]

You might consider then that rayon keeps more ejuice away from your coil, due to inefficient wicking in comparison to JOC and therefore it simply fits the way you vape better.

I might think that...if I got dry hits using rayon, or more of them with rayon, than with cotton. However, just the opposite was true. Haven't had dry hits at all using rayon, while I'd get them sometimes with cotton. IDK...rayon just "works" much better overall for me!

 

[Opinionated]

I might think that...if I got dry hits using rayon, or more of them with rayon, than with cotton. However, just the opposite was true. Haven't had dry hits at all using rayon, while I'd get them sometimes with cotton. IDK...rayon just "works" much better overall for me!

Whereas for me it's opposite.. I get dry hits with rayon, and never get them with JOC..(remembering that Japanese Organic Cotton, name brand Koh Gen Do, which I am talking about is different than plain organic cotton)

I've tried using less rayon as every one suggests but it doesn't matter l have to wait between drags or I get dry hits which never happens if I'm using JOC.. I can chain vape to my hearts content using that..

Which begs the question, as we have the opposite experience, is the wicking we choose simply good for us because each one wicks differently and this better fits our individual vaping style?

Because it's a documented fact they each wick differently ...

 

[Baditude]

I've tried using less rayon as every one suggests but it doesn't matter l have to wait between drags or I get dry hits which never happens if I'm using JOC.. I can chain vape to my hearts content using that..

I think most folks that use Rayon use more compared to cotton or cotton-based wicking material.

I switched to Rayon a long time ago. I use more of it (larger wick) than I did with cotton-based wicking material, however it seems to last for a longer period of time before going "bad". I don't get that "cotton taste" with Rayon that I do get with a new wick of cotton.

I have to admit, I don't use a RTA (tank), just a RDA (dripper). I don't know if that makes a difference.

 

[ilporcupine]

Tastes Great!.....Less Filling!

 

[Opinionated]

I think most folks that use Rayon use more compared to cotton or cotton-based wicking material.

I switched to Rayon a long time ago. I use more of it (larger wick) than I did with cotton-based wicking material, however it seems to last for a longer period of time before going "bad". I don't get that "cotton taste" with Rayon that I do get with a new wick of cotton.

I have to admit, I don't use a RTA, just a RDA. I don't know if that makes a difference.

Whenever I used the same amount or more than I used of JOC I was 15 minutes between drags if not longer..

If I used a little less it was better, but it was still a wait time between drags..

I figure I must take huge drags.. lol

I don't use RDA's.. only RTA's..

 

[ilporcupine]

Whenever I used the same amount or more than I used of JOC I was 15 minutes between drags if not longer..

If I used a little less it was better, but it was still a wait time between drags..

I figure I must take huge drags.. lol

I don't use RDA's.. only RTA's..

With a lower airflow device, you are creating a vacuum, literally sucking juice up the wick. Maybe it accounts for some difference. There really do seem to be too many variables in Busardo and Oen tests to determine much. Just gotta try them all, and pick!(can't we all just get alongggg!)

 

[Opinionated]

With a lower airflow device, you are creating a vacuum, literally sucking juice up the wick. Maybe it accounts for some difference. There really do seem to be too many variables in Busardo and Oen tests to determine much. Just gotta try them all, and pick!(can't we all just get alongggg!)

I actually agree with you, and that was literally what I did..

There was so much confusion about the best wick I literally bought them all, then picked my favorite! Hahaha..

I think that's all anyone can do in the end.. but I would caution anyone not to get a lifetime supply of rayon (for them and 20 of their closest freinds.. lol) before trying it and knowing whether or not it works for them..

 

[Baditude]

I don't use RDA's.. only RTA's..

Maybe that's the difference.

I'll admit that my experience of using JOC is limited. I was given a free sample to try a few years ago when I worked at a vape shop and it had just become commercialized. Given how much it cost to buy, I wasn't that impressed on my dripper. A lot of people loved it though.

I do know that I don't care for ordinary cotton. It seems to shrink up and really doesn't wick well, while the Rayon seems to expand and keep its shape better with use. And of course the ordinary cotton has that "new cotton" taste to deal with. Just my experience.

 

[ilporcupine]

I actually agree with you, and that was literally what I did..

There was so much confusion about the best wick I literally bought them all, then picked my favorite! Hahaha..

I think that's all anyone can do in the end.. but I would caution anyone not to get a lifetime supply of rayon (for them and 20 of their closest freinds.. lol) before trying it and knowing whether or not it works for them..

Well, the lifetime supply was so cheap, I guess it wasn't a great risk for most.
They could always pass it on to a new rayonati convert.

 

[Baditude]

Well, the lifetime supply was so cheap, I guess it wasn't a great risk for most.
They could always pass it on to a new rayonati convert.

Yeah, I get mine from my nephew for free. His one box is enough for a lifetime supply for several people.

 

[Opinionated]

Well, the lifetime supply was so cheap, I guess it wasn't a great risk for most.
They could always pass it on to a new rayonati convert.

That's true.. I gave the cotton bacon to my son.. lol..

Heck with all our wicking purchase mistakes we can always pass stuff on..