Crud! Just bought a mini, no batteries anywhere........

[Erfmann]

Thanks to Mlinky, I've found some. There a little more, but with your Mini on it's way, do you have a choice! AW Orange 14500 3.7v 600 mAh LiMN rechargeable battery

Hey, that's great...congrats on the new reo...

 

[mlinky]

LOL, I just noticed a math error in the ECF battery posting. 600 x 8 = 4800, not 4200. So the actual result would be 4.8

 

[want to quit]

Jackson5 your the man! Or I hope a male .... whatever the case may be. I ordered three bats and a charger. After the mod and this stuff plus some boge carto's from another site, I'm $200+ poorer. Thanks everyone for your help.

Probably should post this elsewhere........can we use the Trustfire 14500 Li-ion batteries I see on IVape? I think they are protected batteries and they are rated at 900mAh.

Your welcome buddy what kind of people would we be if we don't make you spend $200. Glad you found your batteries enjoy one of the best mods on the market.

 

[canoeist]

I'm $200+ poorer. Thanks everyone for your help.

If you are only 200+ poorer, you are WAY ahead of the rest of us

 

[jamminloud]

If you are only 200+ poorer, you are WAY ahead of the rest of us

I'm down about another $200 on analog look alike's. So I'm catching up. Had it not been for this forum, it probably would have taken me much more $ to find the Reos. Amazing what you can learn if you just read.

 

[redheadone]

Welcome to the reo family. You are going to be pleased with your choice. I got my first reo the other day and all I can say is WOW I just wished I had known about the reo sooner before I sunk hundreds of dollars in other devices to find a wonderful vaping experinece

 

[Big Hitter]

If you are only 200+ poorer, you are WAY ahead of the rest of us

Roger that, I spend 200 bucks every month just on supplies and more REOs

Thats after the couple of grand I had into vaping before I found the REO.

 

[pianoguy]

I still rotate my old protected AW's and my BDL IMR's - they work fine in a pinch.

 

[Princessdee]

The AW IMR 14500's really do work best on the Mini and make a real difference when using LR atomizers because of their high "C" rating. All protected li-ion batteries are marginal in the small size. If anyone is going to use protected batteries instead of the high drain batteries due to lack of availability, the best alternate is the protected AW 14500 (black), which has a 2C rating, as opposed to the ****Fire which is 1.5C. Also AW produces a better quality product.

From the ECF thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html:

Power rating for rechargeables

The critical factor for ecig mod use is the C rating (discharge current) in amps. The minimum possible value for safe and effective ecig use is 1 amp (= 1000mA) although ideally it needs to be higher. The ideal rating is 2 amps (2000mA) or better as an atomizer usually draws 1A to 2A.

Chart of C ratings vs size
1C or less for low-quality Li-FePo4
Assume 1C for generic Li-ion unless otherwise noted
1.5C for ultra/sure/trust/-fire Li-ion
2C for AW ICR (Li-ion)
3C for BDL 10440 IMR (Li-Mn)
5C for BDL 14500 IMR (Li-Mn)
8C for AW 14500 and 16340 IMR (Li-Mn)
10C for AW 18650 IMR (Li-Mn)
10C for AW Li-FePo4

Note:
Tenergy etc Li-FePo4 (small cells) - <0.55A (~1C - half an amp or less - not suitable for ecig use)

Max drain rate in amps is C in mAh / 1000 x C rating
Example: an AW IMR Li-Mn 14500 battery has a capacity of 600mAh. The C rating is 8C (it can supply 8 times the capacity). Therefore the max discharge current in amps is:
600 x 8 over 1000 (600 multiplied by 8 divided by 1000)
= 4200 / 1000
= 4.2 amps
This shows it has enough beef to safely and effectively run an atomizer - which some 14500's don't. In other words it is less likely to go into thermal runaway if there is an internal fault in the battery and is then used to power a device that draws a relatively high current such as an atomizer; and it will not suffer from excessive voltage drop when powering the atty.

Useful formulas
Amp draw = voltage / resistance
Example: a 5 volt mod is used with a 2.5 ohm atomizer - what current is drawn?
5 / 2.5 = 2
The battery must supply 2 amps.

Power used by atomizer in Watts = volts x amps, or volts x volts / resistance
Example: a 5 volt mod delivers 2 amps to the 2.5 ohm atty - what power is used?
5 x 2 = 10
The atty uses 10 watts
or
5 x 5 / 2.5 = 10 watts

All that made my head spin. (Not math oriented) can you help me figure these out?
Protected UltraFire 14500 AA sized 3.6V Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery 900 mAh CR14500 Lithium Ion

Thanks

 

[robert shohet]

i bought a mini and 3 batts yesterday from puresmokerthey have em the red unprotected ones order quickly

 

[robert shohet]

i honestly spent 360+ yesterday my wifes gonn akill me parts for ego a reo mini batts and a charger plus the 2 atty and drip tip deal from avid smoker if u guys dont see my post again plz have me buried with myreo mini

 

[mlinky]

All that made my head spin. (Not math oriented) can you help me figure these out?
Protected UltraFire 14500 AA sized 3.6V Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery 900 mAh CR14500 Lithium Ion

Thanks

The rating would be 1.35 which is barely over 1, and the ***fire regularly overstate the mAh, so it is probably lower. Really, if you can find them right now, get the AW IMR 14500's. If you can't, the AW Protected 14500 750 mAh would be an honest 1.5.

 

[blondie1964]

IMR 14500 3.7V Battery | AtmosUSA Ecigs

 

[matt0221]

AW Orange 14500 3.7v 600 mAh LiMN rechargeable battery

 

[Princessdee]

The rating would be 1.35 which is barely over 1, and the ***fire regularly overstate the mAh, so it is probably lower. Really, if you can find them right now, get the AW IMR 14500's. If you can't, the AW Protected 14500 750 mAh would be an honest 1.5.

Thank you so much. There's so much more than you think that you need to know.

 

[jamminloud]

Thank you so much. There's so much more than you think that you need to know.

The digital age has made simple things very technical. I started flying planes in the '70's by dead reckoning (navigation by landmarks) and the seat of the pants. Now the equipment in even a simple plane is staggering and an exercise in education..............

 

[pianoguy]

i honestly spent 360+ yesterday my wifes gonn akill me parts for ego a reo mini batts and a charger plus the 2 atty and drip tip deal from avid smoker if u guys dont see my post again plz have me buried with myreo mini

LMAO!! If you take the atty's out of the picture and spread that cost over a year, it is a pittance compared to what cigs cost ;-)

 

[jamminloud]

i honestly spent 360+ yesterday my wifes gonn akill me parts for ego a reo mini batts and a charger plus the 2 atty and drip tip deal from avid smoker if u guys dont see my post again plz have me buried with myreo mini

I have not put pencil to paper and I don't think I ever will. For me, vapeing is a life changer/life saver. If it cost more than cigs, I would still do it unless I could quit all forms of nicotene.

 

[TennDave]

IMR 14500 3.7V Battery | AtmosUSA Ecigs

Thank you! I just bought 4 of these- good price, especially when everyone else is out...shipping was $5.00. I hope that their shipping is quick and service good- never dealt with them so I guess we'll find out.
Now I need a charger- I think SuperT or Lighthound is the place for a good price on the Ultrafire AW-139 (my preferred charger other than the Pila).

 

[TennDave]

Oh crud- looks just like AW's but after I bought them, realized they probably aren't.... wonder how I can cancel my order?

I have emailed them and wrote on their site with confirmation and ID numbers-
The more I look at them, the typing on the outside case look just like BDL's which have been horrible batteires- I would rather wait or pay more than to receive close to $30 worth of batteries that are disappointing.