Cruelty to a Vaper!

[TheOdessa]

Nicotine is a hell of a drug. I try to explain to people who never got hooked on on it.

I find myself going into a mini panic if my wick dies on the road driving. I must get my nicotine fix

I invite people to vape in my house and I even get invited to vape at work. People at work love the smell and always ask what I'm vaping. I have over 30 different juices from mt Baker vapor so I always have something new in my tank

 

[AndriaD]

I would have made her stop at every single highway rest area along the route, and made it known in no uncertain terms how inconsiderate and selfish her stance against vapor is. It's not smoke and she needs to be educated about it. She sounds like one of "those people", who have been misled by the ANTZ and nanny types of people.

I'd have let her know that she is making the holiday very unpleasant, and that next year maybe she wont have you to kick around anymore. Say... well maybe I shouldnt have quit smoking if thats how youre going to treat me for using odorless water vapor in your precious damned car. Or words to that effect, I just would have thrown a fit and she would have known damn well how unfair her stance on vaping is. I would also seriously consider telling her turkey day is going to be at your house next year because of her feelings about vaping.

One of my daughters always complained about the smell of cigarettes when I still smoked and would make me smoke outside when we visited her home. She's not the same about vaping and wouldnt dare make me go outside with my vape. If she did, she knows she'd be telling me not to stay around and visit, because thats what I'd probably do.

This sounds a lot like me. Or if I didn't want to make waves, I'd probably just decline to go, and when asked why, I would simply explain that going that long without vaping was not possible for me, because it's not -- I never could go more than an hour without smoking, and it would be very difficult for me to go that long without vaping. I also have read a little about the OP's struggles to become smoke-free, and given that, it does seem her daughter could be a little more understanding. We all do many things for our parents that we would never do for anyone else, because they're our parents.

If it's a case of a true physical reaction or allergy to the vapor or something in it, then I would certainly be willing to not vape in the vehicle, because it's one's child; we do things for them too, that we'd never do for others, but I'd certainly insist on frequent and regular stops in order to pacify my habit -- it's a compromise, and those should always entail some give and take from both sides.

But I'd certainly never dream of outright derogation of someone's child, because I wouldn't like it if someone did that to me about my child; it's just not nice or well-mannered or kind. Apparently the OP survived, so it's really a bit beside the point anyway, but maybe there should be better communication between those who find themselves in these kinds of situations; I do feel that courtesy should go both ways. It was one thing when we were puffing on stinking weeds, but now with vapor, we do deserve a measure of respect and courtesy ourselves. We are not the devil's children because we enjoy/desire/need nicotine.

Andria

 

[four2109]

I vaped on a plane. Unflavored, no VG. Let off the button before I stopped drawing, hold it in. Same thing in the airport.

 

[LMS62]

This sounds a lot like me. Or if I didn't want to make waves, I'd probably just decline to go, and when asked why, I would simply explain that going that long without vaping was not possible for me, because it's not -- I never could go more than an hour without smoking, and it would be very difficult for me to go that long without vaping. I also have read a little about the OP's struggles to become smoke-free, and given that, it does seem her daughter could be a little more understanding. We all do many things for our parents that we would never do for anyone else, because they're our parents.

If it's a case of a true physical reaction or allergy to the vapor or something in it, then I would certainly be willing to not vape in the vehicle, because it's one's child; we do things for them too, that we'd never do for others, but I'd certainly insist on frequent and regular stops in order to pacify my habit -- it's a compromise, and those should always entail some give and take from both sides.

But I'd certainly never dream of outright derogation of someone's child, because I wouldn't like it if someone did that to me about my child; it's just not nice or well-mannered or kind. Apparently the OP survived, so it's really a bit beside the point anyway, but maybe there should be better communication between those who find themselves in these kinds of situations; I do feel that courtesy should go both ways. It was one thing when we were puffing on stinking weeds, but now with vapor, we do deserve a measure of respect and courtesy ourselves. We are not the devil's children because we enjoy/desire/need nicotine.

Andria

I completely agree.

 

[Bernard Marx]

How much vapor do you produce?

I have some devices that would really steam up a car but others that nobody would even hardly notice.

Each delivers the same amount of nic.

I have recently reverted to a quite small higher nic but lower vapor e-cig that meets my needs but doesn't clog up my physiology or my neighbors.

I still get a good hit but with much less commotion.

 

[redisin02]

It's hard for vapers around non smokers. Everyone I hear from is scared their just like cigarettes. When those came out they were called safe. So every non-smoker I know is afraid of something close to second hand vape.

 

[The Torch]

I had to ask a coworker to give me a ride home last Monday. When I got in the car, he had a cigar going and it made me cough. He respectfully said he'd just let it go out, but wouldn't let me vape, saying it was a tease since he couldn't smoke his cigar. I felt like kicking him right back in the nuts for making my jacket smell of cheap cigar and not letting me vape, but his car = his rules, so I just shut up. When the time comes to go the other way though, he better not be arguing MY rules.

 

[HauntedMyst]

We are not the devil's children because we enjoy/desire/need nicotine.

Grandma used to say I became the devil's child when I touched the evil places on my body. She said when "it" wakes up before I do, I should hit it with a hammer to show it who's in charge of who. Now I have a flat @*$^# and girls laugh at me but my speedo fits better.

 

[Bernard Marx]

Well good for you to have overcome what would surely become a real nuisance.

 

[Ca Ike]

You know there is a really simple solution here. If her stance is truly the smell then find a flavor that has a scent she can like. Personally I can't stand the smell of most tobaccos and custards

 

[AndriaD]

You know there is a really simple solution here. If her stance is truly the smell then find a flavor that has a scent she can like. Personally I can't stand the smell of most tobaccos and custards

I vape a combo of blueberry muffin/banana nut bread. When we're out and about, going to stores, etc, when we get back into the truck, I swear it smells like someone's baking a blueberry pie in there.

Andria

 

[Kenneth38]

You two are cruel to each other, so one way out is that don't travel together, lol.

 

[Rotowoman]

I'm not saying you should have just vaped in the car anyways, but you are well within your rights to whine a little about it The key things are, you're doing something to improve your health, not smoking is hard, even when you CAN vape. Now you know you can go awhile without it, in a car, feels good doesn't it?

Yes, yes it does. I survived it, and I didn't kill anybody.

 

[Rotowoman]

I'm not sure if maybe a little discussion before the trip might have developed into some short of comprise.

True, and I never really thought about it, but I should have because we had that same discussion before this trip. Maybe my choice of words for the title weren't the wisest, but for me it did feel a tad cruel. I've been ingesting nicotine for about 40 years and going without that long was somewhat painful.

I think the next time we're together, I'll try to educate her about vaping. If it helps, good......if not, oh well.

 

[Rotowoman]

You two are cruel to each other, so one way out is that don't travel together, lol.

But.....but..... we actually enjoy each other's company. I really intend to get into another discussion about the vaping thing with her. She really doesn't understand. Other posters on this thread have given some thoughtful suggestions on how I can cope on a long trip like that. I can deal with not vaping on short trips out and about with her. I just didn't think far enough ahead. If we go on another long trip, I know what I have to do to survive.

 

[The Torch]

Perhaps, next time she comes over to your place, blowing a cloud in her direction "by accident" could ease her fears of bad smells. You might want to get a juice that smells like cookies or such just for that purpose. You never know, she might start insisting you vape in her car.

 

[ProjektMayhem]

I say, shame on your daughter for treating her mom like she did. One might think that she just *COULD* be a little bit more understanding of her mom's plight, quitting cigarettes and turning to vapor. (Cigarette smoking in the car is one thing, but vapor is quite another. Maybe get a little brain power going and think things through. It's a bit self-centered and cold-hearted where mom is concerned, if you ask me.)

Remember the wise mom sage who once said: Your mom brought you into this world. She could just as easily take you OUT of it.

Yeah I kinda feel the same way about my mom. I'd do anything for that woman and if she vaped I think I would let her in my car. Even if I didn't.

 

[AndriaD]

When I told my son, on the phone, that I had quit smoking by vaping, his response was : "WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY MOTHER???" He knows me well. Years ago, when I was suffering horribly with depression, I knew it was hard on him, so I asked him if it would be easier for him if I got treatment in-patient, in a hospital. But he said no, because then he wouldn't know if they were treating me well, if they were letting me have my tea and LETTING ME SMOKE. What a kid.

Andria

 

[Bunnykiller]

I was just ruminating the other day about putting the juice on my finger and swiping the gums....... That's got me laughing that it was mentioned! As long as it's just a little should work in a pinch.

that it does.... I had no urge to vape when I was doing the lick the drop thing...

 

[Brandon David]

I've never had a big issue with this even when I smoked.

For instance, I was on a day long trail ride with a friend in my off-road club since my jeep was torn down and he told me it was fine to smoke in his rig since his daughter wasn't with us. However, I knew he didn't smoke and I refused to smoke in a vehicle a child rides in regularly.

I treat vaping the same way other than I will vape in a vehicle a child rides in as long as the child isn't present.

Idk... part pet peeve and part habit, I guess.



Edit: And I vape when I'm in my office at work (which I didn't initially do) but boss man said it smelled delicious and covered the the aroma of jet fuel.