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VapinBill

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Hebrews 10:24 (KJV)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works.

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
– James 1:5-6
 

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1 Peter 5:2 (KJV)
Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind.

Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
– Isaiah 55:6-7
 

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Hebrews 10:24 (KJV)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works.

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
– James 1:5-6


Only I would stumble over a word, thinking it was only one thing, but can also mean another. I was having problems with Hebrews 10:24 with the word 'provoke.' I was scratching my head going, "WHAT?" It's as follows:

pro·vokedpro·vok·ing
Full Definition of PROVOKE

transitive verb
1
a archaic : to arouse to a feeling or action
b : to incite to anger
2
a : to call forth (as a feeling or action) : evoke <provoke laughter>
b : to stir up purposely <provoke a fight>
c : to provide the needed stimulus for <will provoke a lot of discussion>
— pro·vok·er noun
See provoke defined for English-language learners »
See provoke defined for kids »
Examples of PROVOKE

His remarks provoked both tears and laughter.
He just says those things because he's trying to provoke you.
The animal will not attack unless it is provoked.
Origin of PROVOKE

Middle English, from Anglo-French *provoker, provocher, from Latin provocare, from pro- forth + vocare to call, from voc-, vox voice — more at pro-, voice
First Known Use: 14th century
Related to PROVOKE

Synonyms
arouse, encourage, excite, fire (up), impassion, incite, instigate, move, pique, rev (up), spark, stimulate, stir, build a fire under
Related Words
fan, ignite, inflame (also enflame), kindle, trigger; activate, animate, drive, energize, galvanize, induce, inspire, key (up), motivate, motive, pump up, quicken, set off, vitalize; abet, ferment, foment, raise, whip (up); anger, enrage, madden, upset; jeer, taunt, tease; aggravate, annoy, bother, exasperate, gall, get, irritate, vex


So, I guess you can provoke for good as will as bad. I will pick out the word 'inspire' as that reads better for me. Anyone else have a 'huh' moment with the word provoke? :confused:
 

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    So, I guess you can provoke for good as will as bad. I will pick out the word 'inspire' as that reads better for me. Anyone else have a 'huh' moment with the word provoke? :confused:

    It's all about context.

    IMO:
    Provoke brings me to a point that I will do something no doubt. Here I will do it! Here I will be forced to do it.

    Example: YOUR HONOR, Mr. SMITH PROVOKED ME AND I RESPONDED WITH FORCE.

    Inspire is up to me and gets me thinking about something that I might do or not do. Here I might do something and no telling if I would reach my goal.

    Example: I WANT TO BE LIKE Mr. SMITH, SO I PRACTICE EVERY DAY.
     
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    Romans 6:4 (KJV)
    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction: for whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
    – Proverbs 3:11-12
     

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    It's all about context.

    IMO:
    Provoke brings me to a point that I will do something no doubt. Here I will do it! Here I will be forced to do it.

    Example: YOUR HONOR, Mr. SMITH PROVOKED ME AND I RESPONDED WITH FORCE.

    Inspire is up to me and gets me thinking about something that I might or I might not do. Here I might do something and no telling if I would reach my goal.

    Example: I WANT TO BE LIKE Mr. SMITH, SO I PRACTICE EVERY DAY.


    Sorry that I'm being like a pit bull holding onto a T-bone steak, but I gotta say one thing more, MM, about your sentence 'Here I will be forced to do it.' God doesn't 'force us' to do anything. That takes free will away. I can honestly say that when the Lord talks to me, it's 98% gentle. Yep, I've had some wood shed moments, but have never been forced or provoked. It is now officially dropped. I promise not to mention it again. I will now go and stand in the corner for a time out! :D
     

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    Sorry that I'm being like a pit bull holding onto a T-bone steak, but I gotta say one thing more, MM, about your sentence 'Here I will be forced to do it.' God doesn't 'force us' to do anything. That takes free will away. I can honestly say that when the Lord talks to me, it's 98% gentle. Yep, I've had some wood shed moments, but have never been forced or provoked. It is now officially dropped. I promise not to mention it again. I will now go and stand in the corner for a time out! :D

    A quick google brought this up.
    Provoke = stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.

    IMO: It's not force as being hit with a stick and it's differently is not God saying it but Paul as a teacher, we are always being provoked but not aware of it. When we read scripture to each other we are provoked to confirm it by reading it. When I'm told something aren't I provoke to find if is true or false. I my self have provoked you that you are now searching out the truth about being provoked and questioning it.

    I don't see the need to go any further with this on the forum I will stop provoking you on the forum, if you see it as I'm not correct or vise versa, thank God for His Grace because we both need it.

    I love you my sister in Christ.

    Edited in 10:24 PM

    I know I said this early today "I don't see the need to go any further with this on the forum I will stop provoking you on the forum"

    But you provoked me to study more on this and I was inspired to make a new thread and I can't stop laughing :laugh: about it, here's the link.
    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/christian-vapers/581881-im-i-oxen.html
     
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    Ephesians 4:28 (KJV)
    Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

    For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    – Romans 6:23


    We all have stolen something in our lives....I know I have....like when you take some office supplies home, like a pen. I didn't return it, as best as I can remember. My memory is like Swiss cheese. We do things that we don't think anything about, but could be classified as stealing.....even down to a handful of napkins from a fast food place. Or, extra Sweet n Low from a restaurant for later. I've done all these things without a thought....shame on me. Now I've never robbed a bank, but, stealing is stealing. Sin is sin. I can't imagine Jesus taking extra straws from McDonalds. If He really needed them, He would ask Management how much for 10 straws and pay for them. I haven't done anything lately, but that doesn't mean that I'll do something like that again without thinking......OR, maybe after all of this, I WILL! :)
     

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    We all have stolen something in our lives....I know I have....like when you take some office supplies home, like a pen. I didn't return it, as best as I can remember. My memory is like Swiss cheese. We do things that we don't think anything about, but could be classified as stealing.....even down to a handful of napkins from a fast food place. Or, extra Sweet n Low from a restaurant for later. I've done all these things without a thought....shame on me. Now I've never robbed a bank, but, stealing is stealing. Sin is sin. I can't imagine Jesus taking extra straws from McDonalds. If He really needed them, He would ask Management how much for 10 straws and pay for them. I haven't done anything lately, but that doesn't mean that I'll do something like that again without thinking......OR, maybe after all of this, I WILL! :)


    me too..... GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!!! :glare:
     

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    me too..... GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!!! :glare:

    No No No No No

    Haven't you heard in the sight of God, your sinless, it's impossible for you to sin therefore your not GUILTY!!!







    James 3:8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

    Psalms 34:13 - Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.




    noun guile
    insidious cunning in attaining a goal; crafty or artful deception; duplicity.

    Guile | Define Guile at Dictionary.com
     
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