Daily Word: Week 16

[VapinBill]

2 Corinthians 4:18 (KJV)
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.
– Matthew 6:9-11

 

[Saintscruiser]

2 Corinthians 4:18 (KJV)
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.
– Matthew 6:9-11

"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth as it is in Heaven." I am sooooooooooo ready for THAT day! Woooo Hooooo!!!

Question..............."Thy will be done IN earth as it is in Heaven." MM, can you search out the origin of this? You are soooo good at that kind of research. I just find it interesting that 'in' was used instead of 'on.' I guess it means the same as 'in Heaven.' And yes, I'm a silly willy!

 

[mightymen]

"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth as it is in Heaven." I am sooooooooooo ready for THAT day! Woooo Hooooo!!!

Question..............."Thy will be done IN earth as it is in Heaven." MM, can you search out the origin of this? You are soooo good at that kind of research. I just find it interesting that 'in' was used instead of 'on.' I guess it means the same as 'in Heaven.' And yes, I'm a silly willy!

In is referring as being firm.

In Hebrew its e·artz

gen 1.1 translates into earth.

In gen 1.11 translated into land.

It has to be read in the context of Hebrew that can be found here with the english.

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm

 

[VapinBill]

Proverbs 15:17 (KJV)
Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.

Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.
– Proverbs 22:29

 

[mightymen]

Very INTEREST verses for sure VP, it's Apropos for me, I'll have to do a study on them.

I understand Proverbs 15:17 as saying separate your self.

Though Proverbs 22:29 is what I must study in depth.

I do see unevenly yoked here but I believe there's more to it, I must read it in it's full context later.

I would like to know how others see this verse - - from anyone?

 

[Saintscruiser]

In is referring as being firm.

In Hebrew its e·artz

gen 1.1 translates into earth.

In gen 1.11 translated into land.

It has to be read in the context of Hebrew that can be found here with the english.
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen1.pdf

So you're saying that 'in' earth in the Lord's Prayer is translated as being 'firm land?' The funny thing is that when I clicked onto the website you posted, I got a: 403 Forbidden. Or in German: Verboten.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Proverbs 15:17 (KJV)
Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.

Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.
– Proverbs 22:29

I just love Proverbs! So, it's better to eat soup with someone you love than steak with someone you hate. Yep, makes sense to me. Of course you could nab your steak and eat alone in the corner or go to your neighbor's house!!!!!!

 

[mightymen]

So you're saying that 'in' earth in the Lord's Prayer is translated as being 'firm land?' The funny thing is that when I clicked onto the website you posted, I got a: 403 Forbidden. Or in German: Verboten.

Sorry Oops I fixed that link.

Here it is again Online Hebrew Interlinear Bible

 

[Saintscruiser]

Very INTEREST verses for sure VP, it's Apropos for me, I'll have to do a study on them.

I understand Proverbs 15:17 as saying separate your self.

Though Proverbs 22:29 is what I must study in depth.

I do see unevenly yoked here but I believe there's more to it, I must read it in it's full context later.

I would like to know how others see this verse - - from anyone?

Well, to me it means: A hard working honest man's reputation is enough to be spread by word of mouth. His work is clean and thorough. The mean men? Putting it in today's language....his honesty keeps him from being audited by the IRS! I realize I've really simplified the whole thing, but it does make sense. Also, another point about mean men could mean lawsuits, or even being robbed. Kings could even be a Judge or a literal king. Let me know, MM, what you find!

 

[VapinBill]

Psalms 71:1 (KJV)
In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
– Matthew 6:12-13

 

[mightymen]

FINISHED MY STUDY VP.

I started reading verse 29 in context beginning at verse 16 where it says “He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich will surly come to poverty”

I’ve highlighted years ago these scriptures in my Bible verses 17 to 21 - - I see it as the Lord Speaking.
The rest from verses 22 to 27 I understand as don’t borrow if you’re if you’re poor, and surely go into debt.

Then in verse 28 it says there’s laws in place do not ignore them and verse 29 - - I GOT IT NOW - - don't knowingly lend to those who can’t pay you back, if you do then keep to the laws and don't allow greed to control you. I see more here but that's enough for now...

Deuteronomy 15:1 At the end of every seven years you shall grant a remission of debts.

IMO: Help the poor but don't lend to them because they can't pay it back. I'm not talking on those who take advantage of the system and us. It's better to give a poor person $1000.00 then lend to them knowing they can't pay you back. Better for them and better for me not to sin.

 

[Saintscruiser]

FINISHED MY STUDY VP.

I started reading verse 29 in context beginning at verse 16 where it says “He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich will surly come to poverty”

I’ve highlighted years ago these scriptures in my Bible verses 17 to 21 - - I see it as the Lord Speaking.
The rest from verses 22 to 27 I understand as don’t borrow if you’re if you’re poor, and surely go into debt.

Then in verse 28 it says there’s laws in place do not ignore them and verse 29 - - I GOT IT NOW - - don't knowingly lend to those who can’t pay you back, if you do then keep to the laws and don't allow greed to control you. I see more here but that's enough for now...

Deuteronomy 15:1 At the end of every seven years you shall grant a remission of debts.

IMO: Help the poor but don't lend to them because they can't pay it back. I'm not talking on those who take advantage of the system and us. It's better to give a poor person $1000.00 then lend to them knowing they can't pay you back. Better for them and better for me not to sin.

In reference to Proverbs 22:29, MM, I disagree with your assessment. Let me explain it this way....my last job had cameras in the ceiling and could monitor our work while we were working. Since I did the job I was hired to do, I didn't have a problem with upper management looking over my shoulder. We had our times for fun, but not for more than a minute or two.....period. I was being paid to do a job. I wasn't summoned to upper management in fear as I hadn't done anything. I did get chewed out by another worker and I was in the right. Our manager was gone that day and I took it up one notch with my chain of command. I was told to keep things civil and not communicate with the other person and that to bring it to our manager when he returned. She came to my cubicle that afternoon to start up and I asked her if she was my boss? She told me no. I told her that since she wasn't my boss, I would take it up with management. When he returned the next day, my co-worker scurried into his office. I was still upset, so I waited until the next day, and explained why I had waited so long. She was told to never do that to me again and she was made to apologize. It was then over and it was back to work as usual. Needless to say, I stayed more to myself after that as it was work first. My boss was/still is a fair man. MM, your sig line is his quote.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Psalms 71:1 (KJV)
In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
– Matthew 6:12-13

Psalms 71:1 - Confusion? Confusion comes from satan. So, I checked many different versions of the Bible AND, MM, I checked the Hebrew translation site you posted and confusion was used by the KJV folks instead of shame, whereas, shame was used by many different translations AND the Hebrew site. Hmmmmmmm......very interesting! That changes the whole verse. What say everyone else?

 

[VapinBill]

Matthew 6:24 (KJV)
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Give thanks unto the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people. Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works. Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD. Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually.
– 1 Chronicles 16:8-11

 

[VapinBill]

Revelation 12:10 (KJV)
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
– Jude 1:25

 

[VapinBill]

John 2:19 (KJV)
Jesus answered and said unto them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
– Matthew 7:12

 

[VapinBill]

James 4:11 (KJV)
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
– Isaiah 40:31

 

[VapinBill]

Matthew 7:14 (KJV)
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
– Hebrews 11:1-3

 

[Saintscruiser]

Matthew 6:24 (KJV)
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Give thanks unto the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people. Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works. Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD. Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually.
– 1 Chronicles 16:8-11

Matthew 6:24 is the very reason a born-again Christian can't be possessed by satan and his crew. The spirits collide and a demonic spirit cannot reside within a body with the Holy Spirit. Now, that doesn't mean you can't be oppressed. I think we have all gone through many times when we are oppressed, but that is why Christians need each other....to lift each other up to Almighty God's protection, comfort, and love.

True story. My mom was brought up with 'fire and brimstone' preaching. It wasn't until she was 35 or 36 years old that our preacher (at the time) was preaching on the love of God. He said, "God loves you." She heard plenty of 'God is going to punish you,' admonishment, but no 'God loves you.' Of course she knew better when she became a Christian, but I found that to be so very sad.

 

[Saintscruiser]

Revelation 12:10 (KJV)
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
– Jude 1:25

For whatever reason Almighty God has, satan and the fallen angels have been allowed to accuse us before the Throne of God. I thought when God kicked them all out of Heaven satan wasn't allowed back. Not so. Look at Job. BUT, when this moment in time comes (Rev. 12:10) satan is kicked out for GOOD! And if the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation wasn't bad enough, all of hell will break loose during the other 3 1/2 years. Notice in Chapter 12.

Satan Thrown Out of Heaven
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Now Revelation 13 is a biography of satan, the anti-christ, and the false prophet, but you can read it on your own.