damn DIY is a hard thing !

[junior28186]

i feel like im really noob seriously lol, i have serious trouble with a couple of flavors i bought drom TPA.... some just seems to be weak at all levels, i like flavors very strong and before DIYing, never tried fruity juices, only tobaccos.

i dont know if its just me but, the fruit flavors are weak, like i can taste a bit on inhale, but exhale is just plain air.

i have that problem with

apple tried 5 to 15%--- only 15% taste is like about to come but beyond its air
kiwi double crazy flavor 5 to 15% same taste? very weak but have a refreshing thing cant describe well
blueberry extra is same as apple

just for an insight i use dk tob at 8 % plus 1% saline in everything and i like it

i have the 3 kind of ry4 and they are about to be good at 15%
horchata is good at 10%

ive tried EM at .5 % and that just flaatening out everything

i have sour and Brown sugar coming really soon, tought to add this to fruits?

is it just me or the fruit flavors just wont get to the point that id love them to be ? any advice?

 

[DeloresRose]

Well, tobacco is one of the strongest flavors, so you're used to a lot of taste. I'm new to fruits, but they are a lot weaker. Maybe once you get used to them, you'll like them. From what I'm seeing here on the forum, you might get less flavor if you use VG and/or additives.

 

[Vaslovik]

i feel like im really noob seriously lol, i have serious trouble with a couple of flavors i bought drom TPA.... some just seems to be weak at all levels, i like flavors very strong and before DIYing, never tried fruity juices, only tobaccos.

i dont know if its just me but, the fruit flavors are weak, like i can taste a bit on inhale, but exhale is just plain air.

i have that problem with

apple tried 5 to 15%--- only 15% taste is like about to come but beyond its air
kiwi double crazy flavor 5 to 15% same taste? very weak but have a refreshing thing cant describe well
blueberry extra is same as apple

just for an insight i use dk tob at 8 % plus 1% saline in everything and i like it

i have the 3 kind of ry4 and they are about to be good at 15%
horchata is good at 10%

ive tried EM at .5 % and that just flaatening out everything

i have sour and Brown sugar coming really soon, tought to add this to fruits?

is it just me or the fruit flavors just wont get to the point that id love them to be ? any advice?

Gosh I'm sorry you are having this trouble. I did a bit of groping around too when I started with DIY, but I went with Mt. Baker flavorings and shortly ended up with a great all day vape juice that I'm still making in 100 ml batches. I tried flavorings from Wizard labs, and it was a let-down. They all had the same weird taste to them and I never could get a decent juice out of them. I tossed them and reordered from Mt. Baker.

 

[Heabob]

R U still using analogs?
If yes, it could be burnt out taste buds, and it takes a while for them to recover.
Don't use EM
Try adding a few drops of ACV to your fruits.

 

[junior28186]

i stopped analaogs 2 weeks after started vaaping, which is like 7 month ago,

tobaccos is easy to do, too much flavoring taste like freaking hell but fruits, damn cant get a overfllavoring taste, it just go from low taste to in matter of 1% difference, i bought for 75$ of fruit flavoring and cant seems to do anything good with them. i really cant get the RICH flavor i have freom like vendors juice. im vaping rightn now a juice called ps. honey from my local vendor, its a honey dew flavoring which is sooooo delicious, great taste really sweet and rich cant get that awesomeness in mine

 

[junior28186]

ive heard ACV and lemon juice flatten out juice as well after a couple of days so i dunno

 

[junior28186]

i heard mixing multiple apple flavors,brings a richer flavor, could it be? sounds really weird IMO

 

[JeremyR]

Try hangsens, very easy and their tobaccos are pretty great. Each concentrate is complete. Add 3-6% your good in a few days.

 

[Bryong70]

For Fruit Flavors from TFA, I never go over 6%. I use other flavors to enhance it, such as some sort of cream, vanilla, or another fruit flavor (1 or 2%). I do notice Sour helps a little, only use 1 drop per 5ml. Like you, I find Apple to be a very weak flavor on it's own. I have yet to find a strong apple favor, from any maker. Apple is better with something with it, like caramel or cinnamon. Also clean your palate, when tasting flavors I always keep water with me that is at room temperature and slosh it around my mouth after each tasting.

 

[junior28186]

ive benn reading a lot, and hangsen and inawera flavors a coming all the time, do you think its Worth the price to ship them from europe, i mean i live in canada and purchasing from TPA is like 50% more costly just for the shipping, i want the best flavor,if it just come from europe ill pay the cost no problem but i need to know if its Worth it, ûtting 15 % in my juice just to taste what i want seems really a money pit

 

[Huckleberried]

I have a couple Inawera fruit flavors. They really are good. I'm still pretty new at this and just wanna make good stuff, so here's what I did... recipes! I've gone through the recipes section of the thread, pulled ones that sound good. Some I've loved, others, not so much. But in so doing, it gave me a bit of an idea of how those flavors play together.

I followed threads. Even the REALLLLLLY long ones. The Hangsen Thread is so full of good info. Not only for tobaccos, but the whole Hangsen line! My boyfriend is totally loving the Turkish I've mixed up. I got the recommendations from that thread and from JohnnyDill, another ECFer.

The Inawera Reviews thread is gaining speed quickly. These guys are tossin' stuff around in an Iron Chef manner and having a ball with this line of flavors. Lots of good reading in there, too.

My fave thread...... the Pure Vapes has 3ml FlavourArt flavorings thread. Their fruits I've tried are DEAD ON. At low percentages, LOW, they are DEAD ON. I'm loving this line. There are some incredible recipes and highly useful information there about FlavourArt. This stuff is the bomb.

This stuff, as long as it may seem to read, is so helpful to me. It's worth the reading time. I did a ton of research before I jumped in and I'm so glad I did. ECX sells a lot of these. RTS, too, but they are in the process of moving to a bigger location..... bonus for us!

Good luck to you junior!

 

[Heabob]

ive benn reading a lot, and hangsen and inawera flavors a coming all the time, do you think its Worth the price to ship them from europe, i mean i live in canada and purchasing from TPA is like 50% more costly just for the shipping, i want the best flavor,if it just come from europe ill pay the cost no problem but i need to know if its Worth it, ûtting 15 % in my juice just to taste what i want seems really a money pit

ECX is in California, and they sell TPA (called Signature), CAP, FA, Hangsen, FE, and some Inawera, (a couple others too).

Vapers Tek also sells Inawera, more flavors than ECX.

Shipping cheaper from US to Canada I would think...

 

[dannyv45]

ive benn reading a lot, and hangsen and inawera flavors a coming all the time, do you think its Worth the price to ship them from europe, i mean i live in canada and purchasing from TPA is like 50% more costly just for the shipping, i want the best flavor,if it just come from europe ill pay the cost no problem but i need to know if its Worth it, ûtting 15 % in my juice just to taste what i want seems really a money pit

There's a US seller of original hangsen right in New Jersey that sell top shelf hangsen flavoring

BuyHangsen.com.

For inawera best to buy from Inawera Shop, The Best E-Liquids, Flavours, Bases And Many More!

Both brands are top quality and easy to use and get right pretty quickly. There the only main flavors I use at the moment.

 

[realsis]

Have you tried using a sweetner? Not everyone uses one but I've found a sweetner REALLY brings out the fruit flavors from tpa. I get all my flavors from tpa and I use a sweetner and it will make the flavors really pop. I know their are a lot of different choices for sweetner and it comes down to personal preference but I like sucralose. I can order either the powder or liquid very cheaply off amazon. I use the liquid. A very small amount goes a long way. Start with one drop and move up to your desired sweetness. It adds a very sweet flavor and makes the fruit come through nicely. It doesn't have that diet cola after taste either.in my opinion. It just enhances the flavors. Especially the fruit. You might try it and see if you like it. Not everyone uses a sweetner but I've noticed it really enhances the flavors. You might see if it helps with yours? I really like it. It's worked wonderfully for me. I hope this helps. It's about 6 dollars for a large bottle. It will last a long time because you use so little of it. Give it a try and see if you like it.

 

[Rat2chat2]

Have you tried vaping unflavored for a bit just to sort of cleanse your palate? Could this have anything to do with what I read about called vapors tongue? Wish I can't help you. I'm sure someone will have a suggestion to help you because that is what is so great about ecf. I may not have been able to help you but I can learn from what others suggest too. Good luck to you.

 

[Silent Solution]

When I first started DIY'ing I was using 100%VG and and a little bit of distilled water to thin in out. I vape 0mg so when I was making flavors it was like I was hitting nothing,(just like the feeling of hitting air you are getting) and the flavor was sup-par. I tried duplicating some well reviewed flavors and even upping the flavor percentages on them to get a little more flavor. I finally starting using some PG and now I can vape 0mg and it is superb. I was very very frustrated at first with my results. Now I share my flavors and make decent batches for friends who want a bottle.

There are a couple brands of all VG juices (Velvet CV) and they must use some alcohol or something other to carry the flavor. VG is just not a good flavor carrier IMO

 

[junior28186]

i make 70pg 30 vg batches, use no nic in samples, i used EM but definitely destroy and flatten everything even at .5%

apple, kiwi double and blueberry extra is just really weak by themselves and i cant get the overpowering taste before it flatten

i dindt tried mixing yet because i cant understand that if the flavors taste is so low by itself, how it could be good mixed with another?

 

[Heabob]

Using too much flavoring will also cause it to go flat...

 

[rustafar]

you can get Inawera flavorings at Bull City Vapors ------> Concentrated Flavoring - Brands - Inawera - Bull City Vapor

 

[doots]

try hangsens and Inawera..