Dana Tyler CBS News spread more fear tonight

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"They found e-cigarettes contain proprelyne glycol which is basically the chemical used to make the smoke in this product," said Albert J. Ferrara of the New Jersey Health Department. "We don't know how serious that could be, but, again, it is an ingredient used in antifreeze in our cars and that doesn't sound healthy to any of us."

Now that is just a blatent bold faced LIE. But then again, nothing but the best lies come from government. They sure spare no expense, do they?

Wow, that was just so blatent.

It's going to make my underground vaping all the more sweeter. I'm done trying to educate people when there are idiots like this that can spread this type of horse****.

If I were in jersey, you'd bet I'd be phoning the governor demanding that this idiot be removed from the Health Department.
 
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I really chalk that mistruth to shocking ignorance.

The man has no knowledge that propylene glycol is used in asthma medicines? That it was extensively studied in the early 1940s as a germicidal agent for use in military hospitals and barracks? That vaporized PG has been tested in primates, children and adults? That he can find it in just about every liquid medicine for digestion or ingestion?

That kind of ignorance is shameful in an individual in the health department of even the smallest rural county.

But I cannot believe he would lie for publication. I can believe he's an ignorant individual who brings shame on his position and profession.

Someone in New Jersey .. please enlighten him. Nicely. If BigJim undertakes that task, we can paint all of New Jersey red by next week ... :rolleyes:
 

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Here's my email to the newsperson
Administration did some random sampling, which found some shocking results.

"They found e-cigarettes contain proprelyne glycol which is basically the chemical used to make the smoke in this product," said Albert J. Ferrara of the New Jersey Health Department. "We don't know how serious that could be, but, again, it is an ingredient used in antifreeze in our cars and that doesn't sound healthy to any of us."

Shocking....Here is shocking. Ferrara is with the health department and he fails to mention that propylene glycol (misspelled BTW in the quote) is as common as the toothpaste in your medicine cabinet. Here is a short course from the CDC in where and how pg is used in the home, in medical facilities, at nightclubs: virtually everywhere that human beings visit and consume products. So, the shock is really that anyone who pretends to have knowledge about health and chemicals would spread the lie that PG could possibly be shocking or dangerous in secondhand vape from an electronic cigarette. It is also shocking that the guy did not even spell the word correctly. Perhaps that's why his research was off since a misspelled chemical name would lead to a MISTAKE in his analysis of the compound. Please correct your article and this guy pretending to be a medical expert.

In contrast to ethylene glycol, a potent cause of acute toxicity in humans, propylene glycol is a “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS) additive for foods and medications. Propylene glycol rarely causes toxic effects, and then only under very unusual circumstances.
Uses


Propylene glycol is a Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) food additive that is widely used in

* food and tobacco products,
* pharmaceuticals, and
* cosmetics.

In certain medicines, cosmetics, and food products, propylene glycol acts as

* an emulsifying agent,
* industrial drying agent,
* surfactant, and
* solvent.

Concentrations in Food


Concentrations in foods range from <0.001% in eggs and soups to about 15% in some seasonings and flavorings. Propylene glycol is an FDA-approved additive for military dietary rations (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).
Use in Textiles


The largest amounts of propylene glycol are used in the textile industry, where it is an intermediate in polyester fiber production.
Synonyms


Synonyms for propylene glycol include

* 1,2-propanediol,
* 1,2-dihydroxypropane,
* methyl glycol, and
* trimethyl glycol (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).

Special Uses


Aerosolized propylene glycol can provide dense “smoke” without flames. It is used

* by the military as a smoke screen to conceal the movement of troops on the battlefield and
* as a smoke simulator in various types of fire-training procedures and theatrical productions

n the general population, propylene glycol exposure occurs primarily through ingestion of food and medications and through dermal contact with cosmetics or topical medications. Propylene glycol is used as a solvent in cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, in various formats

* oral
* injectable
* topical

For example, it makes up 40% of intravenous phenytoin (Dilantin) and other injectable medications (Meditext 2004).

No adverse health effects are likely to occur from normal use of these products. However, heavy use of injectable medications with propylene glycol (Louis, Kutt et al. 1967; Seay, Graves et al. 1997; Yorgin, Theodorou et al. 1997; Wilson, Reardon et al. 2000), or prolonged and extensive topical application on compromised skin, such as burns (Peleg, Bar-Oz et al. 1998), has caused excess levels of propylene glycol in the body.
Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol Toxicity: What is Propylene Glycol | ATSDR - Environmental Medicine & Environmental Health Education - CSEM
 

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I got in a hurry so I probably screwed up, but here is what I sent them:

If the New Jersey Health department doesn't know that propylene glycol is a benign substance, then New Jersey doesn't have a Health Department.

Propylene glycol has over seventy years of scientific history. This history includes significant animal and human testing, and the New Jersey Health Department doesn't know what it is? They don't know that it is in everyone's food, medicines, skin care products, cosmetics, and was used to replace ethylene glycol in antifreeze to make non-toxic antifreeze. The latter was done to help clean up the environment as well as safeguard animals that used to die from licking up puddles of antifreeze.

Somehow I suspect WCBS is involved in a fear mongering campaign.
You make no mention of the common uses of propylene glycol, or the known safety of it, and use words like "shocking" to describe it. You probably brushed your teeth with it this morning, and almost certainly ate some for lunch.

The only thing that is "shocking" is watching so-called news that is spreading ignorance and fear straight out of the dark ages.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans have finally found an effective way to get rid of the deadliest addiction in world history, and the New Jersey Health Department, aided by CBS news, won't rest until those people get back to smoking cigarettes again. That's the REAL news.

Here's an idea, find someone who can turn on a computer, and have them do a google search for 'non-toxic antifreeze' and see what it is made from.

Thank you for your time, and NO thank you for the televised misinformation.

Sincerely,
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Great posts, everyone, honestly it's sickening....I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old but STUPID is just getting harder and harder to stomach. Some Health Department, eh? What exactly qualifies one to be head of a Health Department, anyway.....boy, people gotta soon start being careful about who's getting appointed to these cushy jobs. I doubt if I'd have the proper wardrobe, jeans and sweat shirt of the working class probably wouldn't get me in, but by God I think I could do the job just a well
~ no, Better. I'd show them some smoke. NO KIDDING.
 

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