Dangerous advice from supplier.

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Shining Wit

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The text in black below was taken from the 'Mixing Tips' page of a website selling nicotine liquids. I was horrified to read such a vague and inaccurate set of instructions that is intended to guide people who are mixing their own liquids. It serves to highlight one of the reasons why our industry is under threat. It is fuel for the banning argument. I have read a number of posts claiming that each individual has the right to do what they want and the right to mix their own liquids. That is their opinion and I will not argue that point. What I will argue is that suppliers have a duty of care to end users who intend to mix their own liquids and should provide them with full and accurate information. We are dealing with a deadly poison and when you get to the bottom of this post you will see just how deadly. If anyone wants to flame me I don't mind and I will not respond.
A better calculator can be found online here


My comments are in red and blue.






Let me first start with a general equation. mg per ml = strength / bottle size
mg per ml, or mg/ml are established scientific expressions that mean milligrams per millilitre. They DO NOT mean strength per bottle size.

mg per ml = well you guessed it, how much mg per ml there is in any given bottle size that you use in the equation
strength = the nic content of the fliuid you are using to mix with (12, 18, 24, 36 etc)
Bottle size = the number of ml in your bottle.


In this section I'm going to break down how to cut your 36mg liquid to your desired strength.

First the assumptions!



Don't deal with assumptions, deal with certainties. If you can't provide a table or calculator that caters for any bottle size then direct people to one.


You are using a 15ml bottle, and you are using 36mg nic liquid.
By using the Above equation you have

x = 36 / 15
x= 2.4
For every 1ml of 36mg liquid you put into a 15ml bottle you will add an over all 2.4mg of Nic.

For every 1ml of 36mg liquid (that's 36mg per ml) you will be adding 36mg of NICOTINE. So, in a 15ml bottle of 36mg liquid you will have 540 milligrams of Nicotine.

Lethal Dose


The correct way of writing the lethal dose is ‘0.5-1.0mg/kg body weight’. The dose is given as a variable as there are differences within the enzymes in our livers that will enable some people to cope with nicotine poisoning better than others, however it is still a low dose as nicotine is very poisonous.

Before anyone accuses me of over dramatising the situation, read this.


ONE millilitre of 36 mg liquid could prove to be
a lethal dose to someone weighing 158 pounds.
Measure 1ml of water onto a teaspoon and see how much it is.
 

butterbean03

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Thanks Shining Wit for clearing that up.

Those of us who have been mixing for a while understand this. ALWAYS USE A CALCULATOR. You should always test your mix yourself. You can tell pretty quick if it is correct.

Most of us experienced mixers understand what you are saying. But you are right, We need to stop the misinformation.

If we don't regulate ourselves, somebody is going to do it for us. We really don't want that.

Don
 

Shining Wit

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Thanks Shining Wit for clearing that up.

Those of us who have been mixing for a while understand this. ALWAYS USE A CALCULATOR. You should always test your mix yourself. You can tell pretty quick if it is correct.

Most of us experienced mixers understand what you are saying. But you are right, We need to stop the misinformation.

If we don't regulate ourselves, somebody is going to do it for us. We really don't want that.

Don

Thanks Don, I made a calculator using just Excel but allowing the user to input any of the variables, ie every figure cross referenced. I think I'll put that online for folks to use as it is a bit more flexible.
John.
 
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