Dark Horse Build

[ruishang]

Hello everyone, glad to make your acquaintance! I started vaping about 4 months ago on an MVP 2.0 with a Nautilus, and after about two months updated to a 150w sigelei with both a subtank and a subtank mini. I just got into RDA'S with a Dark Horse, and have successfully build coils for it that have provided me with a good vape, but not an overly satisfying one... To all you experts out there, what would be a good build for a dark horse, or similar RDA that would provide lots of vapor? Its a 3 post RDA, and if you can keep the gauge at either 28 or 26, that would be perfect! Also, I have looked into twisted multi-strand coils, but worry that the kanthal will eventually untwist itself due to heat. Any info would be appreciated everyone!

 

[Armchair Alchemist]

Hello everyone, glad to make your acquaintance! I started vaping about 4 months ago on an MVP 2.0 with a Nautilus, and after about two months updated to a 150w sigelei with both a subtank and a subtank mini. I just got into RDA'S with a Dark Horse, and have successfully build coils for it that have provided me with a good vape, but not an overly satisfying one... To all you experts out there, what would be a good build for a dark horse, or similar RDA that would provide lots of vapor? Its a 3 post RDA, and if you can keep the gauge at either 28 or 26, that would be perfect! Also, I have looked into twisted multi-strand coils, but worry that the kanthal will eventually untwist itself due to heat. Any info would be appreciated everyone!

Hi. Nice setup!

May I recommend my setup? Given that you know what you are doing and all that blah blah blah:

• 28 gauge, six wrap, 2 mm, horizontal Quad Coils, 0.16 ohms

• Use Japanese Cotton. Experiment with the thickness of the cotton you use. I have found that wicking it right can mean the difference between a lot of vapor and chucking the vapor. Subjectively speaking, the cotton should move freely in the coil with a little bit of noticeable resistance.

You could go hotter with lower ohms, but I don't go below 0.16 with my battery.

Enjoy this link as well: http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?s=qp&r=0.2&awg=24

 

[Armchair Alchemist]

Also, I wouldn't be concerned with the twisted wire coming apart. Think about what happens when you fire the coils and set them. That's right. You "set" them. The coils relax into and maintain their shapes.

 

[dc99]

Ive never used the segelei but one of my favs on the ipv3 was twisted 28ga, 9wraps each coil. You have 150w, you don't have to build super low. Just turn it up

 

[DaveSignal]

This is what I currently have in my Dark Horse. I don't use 26 or 28 gauge though. Usually 24. The pictured build that I'm currently using is 22 though.

 

[Susan~S]

+1 for what @dc99 said!

The beauty of a high vv/vw mod is that you don't have to build low sub-ohm coils to get a great vape. In fact, building low sub-ohm works against you. Higher ohm coils use more wire which means more surface area to vaporize juice. That increases vapor production.

With a mechanical mod you increase the warmth of your coil by building lower ohm coils. However, the electronics in a regulated mod boosts the power coming from the battery so the ohms of the coil no longer control the warmth.

Here's a good thread on the subject: My thoughts about sub-ohm and latest VV/VW devices...

Also check out State-O-Flux's blog on the Steam Engine.

Steam Engine: From Basic Use to Advanced Features

 

[ruishang]

Thanks for the response!!! I will definitely try that setup.

 

[ruishang]

Thank you guys, this is why I love the ECF community. I will try the twisted kanthal as well as other set ups provided by you guys. I will come back with the results. I mostly worry about having a build that is usable for every day vaping. I understand cloud chasing can come with the sacrifice of flavor or durability of coils/batteries. That is one of the reasons I was hesitating on using twisted kanthal coils, as I'm not yet too familiar with them.

 

[Armchair Alchemist]

Thanks for the response!!! I will definitely try that setup.

If you were talking to me, take dc99's advice.

 

[ruishang]

I was alchemist. I'm going to try every bit of a dvice you and everyone has given me. Trial and error is always key in vaping it seems haha. Thanks for your advice!

 

[Jatsie]

I love my dark horse. My current build is with twisted 28k kanthal - coils last for weeks so far - I would not worry about them untwisting. I have a Lemo 2 tank that I use in tandem so re-wicking once a week works for me, then burn the coils clean.

I made both 3mm diameter coils with 7 winds each. Result is 0.6 ohm and I vape with my iStick 50W on 20-25Watts.