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Well, again, nobody died, unless you count coughing up your own weight in tar/crap. I’m so glad my doc prepared me for this. At the end of my pneumonia bout, I asked my doc how long I should nebulize (he was actually thrilled with my quitting plan, my particular PCP has, of late, looked at me walking into his office as a keg of gelignite, who might explode and die before him any second) and he thought for a long time and said… “For you? I have no idea just keep using it until you don’t have to, whenever that is.” Actually he was thrilled with my quit plan and was like, “You seem highly motivated for once,” and I was like, “Yep, yep, I am HIGHLY motivated to not get COPD which is totally where I’m headed,” and he was like, “YES.” Heh.

I really am highly motivated I guess, the coughing is EXTREME. Seriously, it feels like I’m coughing up blood at times, I don’t think I am and I eat red Jolly Ranchers so for now, I’m going to consider it THAT. Tar tastes disgusting, but I will freely admit I cry a little every time it happens. Sigh. Good Lord.

Day two went better…. I’m finding until about 3 p.m. vaping’s okay, as long as I exercise, and pay attention AND use distractions. I really miss that damn initial cig in the morning, but I KNOW I’ll fail massively, if I have it, so it’s getting easier. I just get so freaking ANTSY as the day progresses, but I’m trying to take it easy given the fact that I know it WILL get easier, I think I only smoked 3 cigs yesterday, but it was all later in the day. Maybe I need to go to BED at 3 p.m. heh. No, that won’t work. That being said, here are some awesome things I have noted about vaping:

1) I can start smelling things again! Oh, the smell of garbage cans in the late afternoon 105 heat!

2) I do feel a bit more confident every day, and I am getting practice dealing with cravings. (Trust me, I have them before 3 p.m., absolutely. Ignoring cravings sucks, but it’s liberating.)

3) My husband, who wakes up cranky, is no longer bothered by my presence in the a.m. Yeah, like I’m going to go outside in my smoking chair, with coffee, and sit there while he smokes, while I VAPE? That way lies madness, at least right NOW. Husband wants to quit but seriously, I told him to wait 2 weeks until I’m fully e-cigged because we’re both highly cranky people and doing it “together” while it sounds all lovely and dovey, it won’t go down like that. He doesn’t want to e-cig, just cold turkey. I felt… this is better. He’s started smoking a pipe too, and I know he will secretly use that, but I don’t care. It’s his body, and frankly, he smokes WAY less than me and always has. Sneak pipe smoking away, husbando, go for it. Though, I HATE the smell of pipe smoke and am one of those weirdos who enjoys the smell of cigs (if they aren’t stale) but whatever, husband.

4) Getting easier, even though I tell myself it isn’t. But, it is.

5) I really PREFER vaping, cigs now taste like cow patties.

6) I DON’T want to die of COPD. I SO don’t! I knew an old Vietnam vet counselor at a program I used to work at he was an avid proponent of vaping and he was like, “Anna, it won’t ever be the SAME, it’s never the SAME, you have to accept that.” Except, he already HAD an oxygen tank, and one of my main reasons to vape NOW is that I NEVER want an oxygen tank. Avoidance of one of those is one of my primary motivators…. In fact, using an e-cig to AVOID an oxygen tank is one of my MAIN things I think about.

7) Safety. I mean, I know that WE KNOW NOTHING and etc., but I can already feel my lungs feeling better. If I die of a heart attack/lung cancer, whatever, I don’t much care. I mean, it’s not my PREFERENCE, but I don’t want to SLOWLY DROWN OVER YEARS, and I can already tell the e-cig is going to help with that, so the rest of it be damned. I mean, yeah, hopefully it WILL reduce chances of such matters, I just don’t much care at the moment.


CONS:

1) Quitting smoking. I mean, come on, I’m a realist. If I could KEEP smoking, I would. I just simply have run out of lung capacity and I KNOW this.

2) I feel like I have WET BRAIN. I’m not kidding. I am totally in a fog half the time and it only gets worse as the day progresses—it SUCKS. That’s the main thing driving me to a cigarette actually, if I have to drive somewhere or do something complicated, my IQ and concentration and focus SUCK at the moment. I wish they had a rehab for smokers, or even that I could go to rehab. Although, thinking that through, that’s probably the WORST idea since smokers proliferate in rehabs, and EVERYONE would be smoking but me, heh. I could join “Ash line,” the tobacco funded cigarette cessation program in the state, but really…. No. I’ve talked to them a time or two and they all want me to take Chantix, (I’m already BIPOLAR I don’t need MORE reasons to GET psychotic) gum, or just send me dreary notifications about how far I’ve “come,” and whatnot, and I don’t want to see that stuff, at this juncture. Especially problematic when it won’t STOP and I’m being sent, “Congratulations Anna, two years without smoking,” and I’m reading it on my smart phone on one of forty cigarette breaks. No thanks.


3) But really, if ANYONE knows any cures for the wet-brain/ mental ......ation thing, I’m all ears. No brain, but all EARS. THAT is my main problem, besides antsiness. I know it will pass, I know I don’t have wet brain (not sure all who know me would concur, heh) but is there ANYTHING that helps? I tried to cut my caffeine, possibly too much, so I do try to have like a third of a cup of coffee or some tea, but it’s not doing much for me. Maybe chamomile tea would help with the antsiness? That tea is surprisingly effective for that, being as it’s so readily available. Yes, I may try that today, forcing myself to vape through the worst of things until I smoke, IF I have to. Today should be non-stressful, I hope. My kid goes to court (long story) but I’m not going as courtrooms, jails and other places make me want to act out…. Badly. I made an executive decision with son/husband that they would go together in my current condition. I mean, I might yell out horrific slurs against the “judge” I say that as in MY town, you don’t even have to freaking be a LAWYER to be a judge, SIMPLY a politician. How MESSED up is that? Last time I went the case was continued, and it was all I could do not to yell, “Yeah, hey you who wanted the $150 K salary without doing the work (she freaking has an AA degree, for god’s sakes) what the HELL, lady? Get up, I can do a better job than you.” Yeah, my wet brain and I will *NOT* be attending the hearing and we’re all happy about that. That’s more of a PRO, but seriously, wet brain help?


4) All that stupid crap that goes along ritualistically with smoking. I’m the kind of smoker where, like, if I ever quit and my cravings DO go away (they do) I freaking MISS THEM. I find lighters in the laundry and feel SAD and TRAGIC that I no longer have a use for them, who MISSES their cravings? That’s just sick. I guess I’ll be working on my own rituals with vaping and etc. But, it’s not the same. I do smoke other stuff, ATM, (it’s legal here) so AT LEAST I have a use for my lighters. But, I need to start me up some rituals, I think.


5) Can’t think of too many more cons, actually, so I guess I’ll leave it here. We’ll see what the day brings, I guess. It’s going to bring YOGA and maybe a walk, that’s for certain.


6) Oh, rewards! I need to find an awesome way to reward myself for stuff. I’ll have to think about that. That’s the thing with smoking, it’s like an instant reward, in and of itself. The reason I kind of miss cravings when they go is that “Wow, this is easier than food! I can carefully create, within myself, a deep desire for something TANGIBLE that I can fulfill INSTANTLY.” It’s a great feeling, lemme tell you. Okay, I’m overanalyzing this. Also, I’m not going to miss my cravings this time, as I actually DO want to quit. Even if it’s 55% wanting to quit, I’m over the 51% hump, and that’s actually all you need—the desire to quit MORE than the desire to smoke.


But overall, day two and beginning 3, was better. I know this, I smoked less and did more. RAH! Oh, and I forgot, something DID die yesterday, we have a packrat gnawing on our house, (long story) and my husband found one and chased it down, hitting it with a rock. I’d feel sad, but they really are destructive little critters. We have tons of bunny rabbits and I would never wish THEM dead, but packrats? Hell yes. During the house fire (long story) one got in our HOUSE and stole about 5 lbs of my jolly ranchers, the little… um, beast. I rejoice at packrat’s death (hopefully) mainly because we’ve tried so many non-lethal things, and listening to him gnaw on the underside of my house at night SUCKS. Yeah, we did peppermint oil, other stuff… No go. Though he’s not in the house anymore, my Jolly Ranchers are safe.


This was long and rambly, but I AM finding using a sub-ohm tank sometimes (early to build up nic in my system, during breaks) works well, and I like my thinner vape tank for by the time I am so sick of the high vapor clouds…. This is working well. In fact, off to change my tank now. I so hope all my stuff arrives today, but hell, I imagine one more day of smoking 3—4 cigarettes won’t hurt me, I mean, it’s practically like giving myself Pure Oxygen, compared to how I used to smoke, so it’s all good.


Anna (Wet brain solutions solicited) J And thanks to all you guys who are reading, and being encouraging. This is the best site. I told my son he was uninformed and that I understood as he was using his e-cig as a “drug” and he said, “I know a reasonable amount.” And I was like, “Uh, you instructed me to vape 12 nic on a sub ohm tank at 85 watts, so actually… no you don’t.” He was like, “Okay Mom, well we all know your obsessive need to know everything about everything.” Haha, I do have that desire when I am changing behaviors and I think there is Nothing Wrong With That.


Anna
 

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Thanks zoiDman,

You're so correct! I haven't done everything perfectly, but I do know I'm making progress. If only the brain fog would go away, I could deal with being antsy.... But yes, I never want to go back to cigs again.... I know where that leads me, it usually takes years before I even *want* to try again, so I am looking at this as my Final Quit, and looking at my mistakes as learning things.... With day 3 I already feel so much better than day 1! And I appreciate you (and the site) being so encouraging, welcoming, and informative! You guys are great.

I'm guessing there's no cure for brain fog in the early days? I guess I'll have to see if these diff. nic formulas help with that, I very much hope so. But yes, I wouldn't have even GOTTEN this far, I think, without this site and all the information collected! :) Thank you guys!

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Well, again, nobody died, unless you count coughing up your own weight in tar/crap. I’m so glad my doc prepared me for this. At the end of my pneumonia bout, I asked my doc how long I should nebulize (he was actually thrilled with my quitting plan, my particular PCP has, of late, looked at me walking into his office as a keg of gelignite, who might explode and die before him any second) and he thought for a long time and said… “For you? I have no idea just keep using it until you don’t have to, whenever that is.” Actually he was thrilled with my quit plan and was like, “You seem highly motivated for once,” and I was like, “Yep, yep, I am HIGHLY motivated to not get COPD which is totally where I’m headed,” and he was like, “YES.” Heh.

I really am highly motivated I guess, the coughing is EXTREME. Seriously, it feels like I’m coughing up blood at times, I don’t think I am and I eat red Jolly Ranchers so for now, I’m going to consider it THAT. Tar tastes disgusting, but I will freely admit I cry a little every time it happens. Sigh. Good Lord.

Day two went better…. I’m finding until about 3 p.m. vaping’s okay, as long as I exercise, and pay attention AND use distractions. I really miss that damn initial cig in the morning, but I KNOW I’ll fail massively, if I have it, so it’s getting easier. I just get so freaking ANTSY as the day progresses, but I’m trying to take it easy given the fact that I know it WILL get easier, I think I only smoked 3 cigs yesterday, but it was all later in the day. Maybe I need to go to BED at 3 p.m. heh. No, that won’t work. That being said, here are some awesome things I have noted about vaping:

1) I can start smelling things again! Oh, the smell of garbage cans in the late afternoon 105 heat!

2) I do feel a bit more confident every day, and I am getting practice dealing with cravings. (Trust me, I have them before 3 p.m., absolutely. Ignoring cravings sucks, but it’s liberating.)

3) My husband, who wakes up cranky, is no longer bothered by my presence in the a.m. Yeah, like I’m going to go outside in my smoking chair, with coffee, and sit there while he smokes, while I VAPE? That way lies madness, at least right NOW. Husband wants to quit but seriously, I told him to wait 2 weeks until I’m fully e-cigged because we’re both highly cranky people and doing it “together” while it sounds all lovely and dovey, it won’t go down like that. He doesn’t want to e-cig, just cold turkey. I felt… this is better. He’s started smoking a pipe too, and I know he will secretly use that, but I don’t care. It’s his body, and frankly, he smokes WAY less than me and always has. Sneak pipe smoking away, husbando, go for it. Though, I HATE the smell of pipe smoke and am one of those weirdos who enjoys the smell of cigs (if they aren’t stale) but whatever, husband.

4) Getting easier, even though I tell myself it isn’t. But, it is.

5) I really PREFER vaping, cigs now taste like cow patties.

6) I DON’T want to die of COPD. I SO don’t! I knew an old Vietnam vet counselor at a program I used to work at he was an avid proponent of vaping and he was like, “Anna, it won’t ever be the SAME, it’s never the SAME, you have to accept that.” Except, he already HAD an oxygen tank, and one of my main reasons to vape NOW is that I NEVER want an oxygen tank. Avoidance of one of those is one of my primary motivators…. In fact, using an e-cig to AVOID an oxygen tank is one of my MAIN things I think about.

7) Safety. I mean, I know that WE KNOW NOTHING and etc., but I can already feel my lungs feeling better. If I die of a heart attack/lung cancer, whatever, I don’t much care. I mean, it’s not my PREFERENCE, but I don’t want to SLOWLY DROWN OVER YEARS, and I can already tell the e-cig is going to help with that, so the rest of it be damned. I mean, yeah, hopefully it WILL reduce chances of such matters, I just don’t much care at the moment.


CONS:

1) Quitting smoking. I mean, come on, I’m a realist. If I could KEEP smoking, I would. I just simply have run out of lung capacity and I KNOW this.

2) I feel like I have WET BRAIN. I’m not kidding. I am totally in a fog half the time and it only gets worse as the day progresses—it SUCKS. That’s the main thing driving me to a cigarette actually, if I have to drive somewhere or do something complicated, my IQ and concentration and focus SUCK at the moment. I wish they had a rehab for smokers, or even that I could go to rehab. Although, thinking that through, that’s probably the WORST idea since smokers proliferate in rehabs, and EVERYONE would be smoking but me, heh. I could join “Ash line,” the tobacco funded cigarette cessation program in the state, but really…. No. I’ve talked to them a time or two and they all want me to take Chantix, (I’m already BIPOLAR I don’t need MORE reasons to GET psychotic) gum, or just send me dreary notifications about how far I’ve “come,” and whatnot, and I don’t want to see that stuff, at this juncture. Especially problematic when it won’t STOP and I’m being sent, “Congratulations Anna, two years without smoking,” and I’m reading it on my smart phone on one of forty cigarette breaks. No thanks.


3) But really, if ANYONE knows any cures for the wet-brain/ mental ......ation thing, I’m all ears. No brain, but all EARS. THAT is my main problem, besides antsiness. I know it will pass, I know I don’t have wet brain (not sure all who know me would concur, heh) but is there ANYTHING that helps? I tried to cut my caffeine, possibly too much, so I do try to have like a third of a cup of coffee or some tea, but it’s not doing much for me. Maybe chamomile tea would help with the antsiness? That tea is surprisingly effective for that, being as it’s so readily available. Yes, I may try that today, forcing myself to vape through the worst of things until I smoke, IF I have to. Today should be non-stressful, I hope. My kid goes to court (long story) but I’m not going as courtrooms, jails and other places make me want to act out…. Badly. I made an executive decision with son/husband that they would go together in my current condition. I mean, I might yell out horrific slurs against the “judge” I say that as in MY town, you don’t even have to freaking be a LAWYER to be a judge, SIMPLY a politician. How MESSED up is that? Last time I went the case was continued, and it was all I could do not to yell, “Yeah, hey you who wanted the $150 K salary without doing the work (she freaking has an AA degree, for god’s sakes) what the HELL, lady? Get up, I can do a better job than you.” Yeah, my wet brain and I will *NOT* be attending the hearing and we’re all happy about that. That’s more of a PRO, but seriously, wet brain help?


4) All that stupid crap that goes along ritualistically with smoking. I’m the kind of smoker where, like, if I ever quit and my cravings DO go away (they do) I freaking MISS THEM. I find lighters in the laundry and feel SAD and TRAGIC that I no longer have a use for them, who MISSES their cravings? That’s just sick. I guess I’ll be working on my own rituals with vaping and etc. But, it’s not the same. I do smoke other stuff, ATM, (it’s legal here) so AT LEAST I have a use for my lighters. But, I need to start me up some rituals, I think.


5) Can’t think of too many more cons, actually, so I guess I’ll leave it here. We’ll see what the day brings, I guess. It’s going to bring YOGA and maybe a walk, that’s for certain.


6) Oh, rewards! I need to find an awesome way to reward myself for stuff. I’ll have to think about that. That’s the thing with smoking, it’s like an instant reward, in and of itself. The reason I kind of miss cravings when they go is that “Wow, this is easier than food! I can carefully create, within myself, a deep desire for something TANGIBLE that I can fulfill INSTANTLY.” It’s a great feeling, lemme tell you. Okay, I’m overanalyzing this. Also, I’m not going to miss my cravings this time, as I actually DO want to quit. Even if it’s 55% wanting to quit, I’m over the 51% hump, and that’s actually all you need—the desire to quit MORE than the desire to smoke.


But overall, day two and beginning 3, was better. I know this, I smoked less and did more. RAH! Oh, and I forgot, something DID die yesterday, we have a packrat gnawing on our house, (long story) and my husband found one and chased it down, hitting it with a rock. I’d feel sad, but they really are destructive little critters. We have tons of bunny rabbits and I would never wish THEM dead, but packrats? Hell yes. During the house fire (long story) one got in our HOUSE and stole about 5 lbs of my jolly ranchers, the little… um, beast. I rejoice at packrat’s death (hopefully) mainly because we’ve tried so many non-lethal things, and listening to him gnaw on the underside of my house at night SUCKS. Yeah, we did peppermint oil, other stuff… No go. Though he’s not in the house anymore, my Jolly Ranchers are safe.


This was long and rambly, but I AM finding using a sub-ohm tank sometimes (early to build up nic in my system, during breaks) works well, and I like my thinner vape tank for by the time I am so sick of the high vapor clouds…. This is working well. In fact, off to change my tank now. I so hope all my stuff arrives today, but hell, I imagine one more day of smoking 3—4 cigarettes won’t hurt me, I mean, it’s practically like giving myself Pure Oxygen, compared to how I used to smoke, so it’s all good.


Anna (Wet brain solutions solicited) J And thanks to all you guys who are reading, and being encouraging. This is the best site. I told my son he was uninformed and that I understood as he was using his e-cig as a “drug” and he said, “I know a reasonable amount.” And I was like, “Uh, you instructed me to vape 12 nic on a sub ohm tank at 85 watts, so actually… no you don’t.” He was like, “Okay Mom, well we all know your obsessive need to know everything about everything.” Haha, I do have that desire when I am changing behaviors and I think there is Nothing Wrong With That.


Anna

The first two weeks without a smoke is a constant fight against the addiction.. I will tell you my story.

Unlike you, I had the opportunity to stay in bed the first three days, and arrange my life after that where I could avoid stress the first month. I avoided all my main triggers the first two months, that thing that made me chain smoke without thinking. So you have a little more struggle than I did I think, as you can't arrange your life as easily. That said:

Like you, my husband smokes, and smoked through my quit. (And he did so around me, he did not go outside to smoke) Oddly, this made it EASIER to stay quit even though it made the initial quit more difficult because at first he smelled like candy.. lol..

Reward was two fold. First was vaping the sweets I love to taste.. vaping (and therefore tasting) constant cheesecake and cinnamon rolls without fear of gaining a pound for me was a huge reward.

Second reward was the cash I was saving. At the end of week one I took all the money I would have spent on cigarettes and bought myself something I wanted. A treat for not smoking. Week two I did the same thing. Then when I went two weeks I took that money, two weeks worth of not smoking and bought something else, just for me that I wanted.

My saving up days worth of money for not smoking until I could afford something I really wanted, kept me going in the beginning. New dslr camera, new lenses, a new book or two, new outfits, getting a pedicure, my hair done.. all things that were just for me, that I wanted, that I got to have for not smoking.

I still do that, I still save my cigarette money back for things I want.. this is my reward. If I had not quit smoking that money wouldn't be there, so I keep the money for stuff I want. :)

In the beginning this gives you something highly positive to focus on, it gives you a goal.... and the goal can be as short or long term as you like, but in the beginning keep the goal short. Just one day (get a candle) 5 days, a new top or your hair done. It's your prize, and a happy one to look forward to. Pamper yourself, it's awesome!

Brain fog ... just the first few days, although I'm sure the funny stuff is contributory for you. But brain fog gone quickly enough.. I did quit caffeine in its entirety.. couldn't have caffeine and deal with quitting smoking so I quit both at the same time. Helped keep me calmer.

I don't know what will help you get through this.. I prayed.. I prayed a lot. It helped me, so do whatever helps calm you and give you strength. You mention Yoga, so do whatever spiritual calming type stuff that helps you.. as I said, I prayed a lot. This type of thing does help more than you know.

Two weeks without a smoke was what I had to do personally in order to make my quit permanent. I went two weeks without a smoke then broke down and lit up. It tasted awful, made me cough up a storm, made me feel sick.. I didn't pick up another one because I didn't want to, and I quit sitting on top of my own cigarettes in the house. I didn't wait to quit til I was out like some, I quit with a pack left..

Find what works for you, and do it. We are all different, but it can be done..

Good luck to you, and congratulations on quitting. Only 3 smokes in a day, is great! Keep going, you will get to zero!
 

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You are Doing Great. Just stay in Today. And Always take Progress over Perfection.

I can almost Guarantee that you will hit some Rough Spots as you move forward. But I can Also Guarantee that each Day it will get Easier to overcome them.

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Amen!
It was easier for Ninja to quit than it was for me, I'm stubborn :D
I was a dual user for about five months, I found the right setup and haven't looked back, 3 1/2 years later :)
Now the only thing I have to worry about are those bouts of Shinyitis, this happens when you see a mod you just hafta have ;)
Good Luck Anna! We are here if ya need us :)
 

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Stay well hydrated with your favorite drink. ie. water, soda, tea, coffee, etc. This will help to flush out the bad stuff in your body and well as make the vaping much more enjoyable.
I had a friend(when she first started vaping) actually brush her teeth every time she got a nic craving. Worked for her so who knows.


The brain fog will pass, maybe with increased liquids it will help to clear it out some.

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Amen!
It was easier for Ninja to quit than it was for me, I'm stubborn :D
I was a dual user for about five months, I found the right setup and haven't looked back, 3 1/2 years later :)
Now the only thing I have to worry about are those bouts of Shinyitis, this happens when you see a mod you just hafta have ;)
Good Luck Anna! We are here if ya need us :)

I was the Same Way. I Ramped down on Smoking as I Ramped Up on e-Cigarettes.

Part of it was I needed Time to find a decent Set-Up/e-Liquid. And Part of it was it was just :censored: Hard to get that hook Completely out of my Month.
 

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Thanks you guys, so many ideas! I actually had to get dentures at the age of 33 (long story, actually NOT smoking related) so I can brush my teeth, but only in the sink! I could see mouthwash working, I could try that.

Opinionated, thanks for the detailed feedback, that's awesome. I can't believe you quit with someone smoking in the house, but I kinda feel the same way-- I mean, it's impossible to escape cigs and if that's the goal, I'll fail. I kind of have to make them irrelevant. My life is SLIGHTLY easier for the first few weeks I think my PCP, in seeing my determination this time, extended me a part time schedule for the next couple weeks, I was off for a couple weeks with the pneumonia, I had to take steroids and they make me wacky, no counseling allowed, heh. My ideas for my clients would have been... Poor.

I don't think it's the funny stuff, I don't smoke daily and I'm avoiding it ATM as I'm SURE I'd want a cig. I use it mainly for pain/sleep issues PRN due to a bad back accident, and I do NOT do opiates. Right now, I'm just hoarding lighters I come accross, much like the packrat :) But I love yr ideas as far as saving money, then using it on self-care, I'll have to make a list. Prayer is totally on my list of activities, and yes, it helps. Maybe I need to use it more after 3 p.m., possibly. Yes though, yoga, exercise, all that, and my husband built a mile long 13 circuit labyrinth in our yard, so that's always a pleasant walk (usually around sunset), I'll have to make a list of things to do. It's just that right now, the humans in my life who don't pay me to do stuff, seem to want a lot of attention. Oh well. Today I don't have to drive anywhere, so I'm happy about THAT. Thank you all for the suggestions, they really are a help. :)

Anna
 

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I was lucky I guess, but after 40 years a 3 pad habit, I quit rather easily in 3 days. My problems started after about 2 months. That is when my taste changed and I couldn't find any flavors I liked (but I was only trying tobacco flavors). That was also the time -- 2 months -- when I had to start cutting back on nicotine, caffeine, and sugar. I was getting lightheaded, sleeplessness, anxiety, general running around like a headless chicken feeling. I got thru it and learned quite a bit about how to evaluate what my body was telling me.

After a year or two I was back to normal, guzzling coffee like always.
 

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Hi Anna
You have a way with your words that kept me laughing :lol:. Especially the comment about the garbage containers. Everytime I quit smoking I would notice the same thing, how bad the world smelled.

Maybe a vape with some ridiculously high nic, say 18 mg to 36 mg, might help. When that cig craving hits then a few hits from the high nic usually turns off the craving pretty quickly. Kind of like smoking 3 or 4 cigs in a row, you just don't want that next one. Also keep that lighter handy and employed as that also helps, a lot. Gets rid of the cranks too.:thumb:

Now when you are finally over the worst of it you really must come back and start telling us some of those long stories. Something tells me they would be a hoot to read.

Good luck with it.
 

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Thanks for all the encouragement! Yesterday was better... When I wake up I'll uh, ramble. Yes I find a daily word vomit (somewhere) helps me out. I can't do higher than 12 around here until some of my online stuff arrives. I can only use 100% VG and can only get it in 12 nic at e-cig stores. I'm sensitive to PG. But, I will see what arrives in my mailbox today.... Anna.
 
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One thing that helped me quit was to go where I used to smoke, and hang out there for 5 minutes like a cig, but vape like crazy. Didn't feel like a smoke unless I was outside on the patio. I smoked outside at peoples' house, inside at my home.

It's a little late now, but if you switch to an additive free cigarette for a month before vaping, it's a hell of a lot easier to quit. It's not healthier, just has less crap you get addicted to.
 
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stols001

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Thanks guys. I'll try to figure out how to post Labyrinth pics. I feel you 90VG, and yes, that's on my list. Right now, my car is my "special place." If I go 2 weeks, I'm going to PAY to get it detailed.... I do and have used additive free tobacco for years, we have an electric injector machine and we use mostly organic American Spirit tobacco in tins and mix in a bit of other, cheaper, but also organic tobacco, and I think it extended my smoking life by several years.... I don't think I'm detoxing off too many additives, I am just pretty sensitive to detoxing anything, and smoking's.... so complicated. For me, the MAOIs are key, though yesterday was better and today's going well. I'm just being patient, bit by bit. Yeah, I would suggest to ANYONE quitting to switch to additive free, first. I noticed a HUGE difference when I did that.... I used to smoke BASICs in college-- Their slogan: "Basics, where the taste is provided by heavy metal poisoning." My lungs must have been very hardy, then. :) Anna
 

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Since vaping is totally scalable, the choice you have can be overwhelming. Part of vaping is all about you, the vaper being in control and the freedom to fix/tailor almost any vaping aspect aspect you feel you need to improve. If you can't seem to find any solutions within the forums, please ask.
He was like, “Okay Mom, well we all know your obsessive need to know everything about everything
Here's a little vape health knowledge that you might enjoy:
A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette
 

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Thanks Bob, I have been reading a lot of old/archieved threads, but when I have specific questions, I will totally ask! Thanks for the link, I skimmed it, but didn't see the part about thyroid issues. My thyroid is completely dead, thanks to Lithium, I've been supplementing with natural thyroid for years (thyroid problems run in my family so I was expecting it from lithum.) I have been WAY more tired than usual, an don't have much appetite in the a.m. I actually have a lab slip from my doc to test almost everything.... Anyone really know how long I should wait? I'm assuming that about 6 weeks completely away from tobacco, given how slowly thyroid changes turn up in your bloodwork. I was ascribing it to stress, maybe not? It's mostly early evening, but I take my thyroid in the a.m., I might try splitting it. TY :)

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