DCT tastes like soap

[GraceH]

Q1) I got some no name daul coil carts and tank and some Smoketek Dual coils and a tank and both have the same soap taste. I have to mix with my juice mint flavors to over come it, otherwise i get nothing but soap. Is this usual with dual coils?

Q2)I have seen some complaints about duals and have ordered some XL Kanger horizontal coil cartos (on the way). But i'm a cheap skate and HATE to throw away money. but in the mean time is there anything I can do to make these usable like a cleaning them out with alcohol or something?

Thanks
Grace

 

[SupplyDaddy]

How did you prep the cartos before use Grace? Having both, Smoketek (Smoketech) and no name cartos tasting like soap is not normal. (cartos at all tasting like soap is not normal.. )
Are you sure it's not your juice? If you are sure, I would use vinegar to rinse your tanks and cartos, then do a plain water rinse. Shake out the cartos and let them dry for a day. The tanks you can just wipe off. Prep your cartos before inserting into the tanks, and after you put them back in, fill the tanks.

 

[GraceH]

When filling the carto I drip and shake the carto, drip and shake, repeat, repeat untill the top filling is wet after a shake. Insert into the tank, fill the tank, and let it set for 15 min or so. There flanged cartos so I cant use a condom method to fill. I used a orange flavor in the smoketeks (i got them first) and a peach in the no-names. yet get the same soapy after taste. With the smoktek's i hoped it would go away after the first tank full ran throw it. No luck. So I added peppermint to the remaining orange to cover the soap taste.

 

[cyberwolf]

I hate to also point to the juice, since it is possible that there was some sort of residue in your cartos or tanks. It does seem odd that you would be getting the same taste from two completely different cartos, though. What were you using before? It may be that the new tank setups you are using are burning cooler or warmer than what you were using, resulting in different flavor production. Switching types of atties and cartos will often bring out subtle differences in the flavor of certain juices.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

Are both juices from the same place? or DIY?

 

[Baditude]

I've never heard a tank or carto being associated with a soapy taste. I suspect either the juice or improper preparation (filling) of the cartomizer before putting into the tank and filling it.

Grace didn't say how she did her cartotank setup. There are multiple ways to do this, but with all of them putting the adequate amount of juice into the carto is first and foremost the most important. I've written a blog with several articles on cartomizers and tanks. I invite you to look at one in particular on setting up a cartotank, which gives the method that I use in detail and also has a video demonstrating a similar method. Take a look and let us know if you prepared your tank differently. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

Can you also give us some specifics on the juice that you put into the tanks? Flavor and vendor would be helpful to know if those juices require some steep time to reach their ideal taste. There are some flavors from vendors that need to be steeped for 1-2 weeks, and sometimes the lids left off the bottles to allow alcohol in the juice to evaporate.

 

[GraceH]

I do have it on a Provari and have tried vaping at lower (down too 3.5) and higher volts (up to 4.9...BAD burnt, too high). The smoktek's are LR, no idea what the no-names are support to be. The provari reads it at a 1.2ohms so thats probably means it's 2.4ohm.

 

[GraceH]

Juice isn't DIY, but same vendor. I cant remember were I got them. I wanna say VaporKing, or VaporCrave.

 

[Baditude]

I do have it on a Provari and have tried vaping at lower (down too 3.5) and higher volts (up to 4.9...BAD burnt, too high). The smoktek's are LR, no idea what the no-names are support to be. The provari reads it at a 1.2ohms so thats probably means it's 2.4ohm.

Not a fan of dual coils myself, they and the low resistance single coil carts give me a harsh vape. Therefore I prefer standard or high resistance single coil carts for a cooler vape on the Provari.

My experience with fruit flavors (orange and peach in OP's case) are their flavor is fragile to higher heat (low resistance or high voltage). I prefer to vape them between 3.4 -3.7 volts on a 2.5 ohm single coil cartomizer.

 

[GraceH]

Ok, it was vaporcrave for sure. flavors are orange (smoketek), peach (no-name)

Grace

 

[aheatedatom]

"Soapy" (along with "piney") are two overall flavor types I've found in juices from certain vendors that have gone in the 'never buy again' pile. Especially if you hadn't vaped the same juice before on a different setup and know you liked it then, it sounds like its not the right juice for you.

 

[Baditude]

"Soapy" (along with "piney") are two overall flavor types I've found in juices from certain vendors that have gone in the 'never buy again' pile. Especially if you hadn't vaped the same juice before on a different setup and know you liked it then, it sounds like its not the right juice for you.

Good point. I never buy juice from vendors whose main interest is selling gear. They rarely (not always, always an exception to any rule) have great juices.

I buy only from vendors whose main product is their juices. If their juices aren't good, they won't stay in business for long as they won't get return business. Gear vendors can afford to sell cheaper juices of questionable quality as they make their money on the mechanical stuff.

Just something that I've picked up over my vaping experience.

 

[GraceH]

I won't be getting anymore Duals thats for sure. The first tank I got and setup was a Pyrex tank from ValleyViewVapes and a LR boge. That setup is by far my fave. I haven't tried a SR boge single coil...yet. I'm tring the Kanger single horizontal coil next. I was plaining to try SR after getting familiar with LR and see what I like better.
So far, the dual's NOT impressed. But now I'm stuck with 10 of them. sigh. I did see a method for cleaning cartos using a large syrenge and achohol. Flushing them out with the achohol several times them with distilled water. I think I'm gonna give that a try. But haven't tried to clean a carto before, and I need to get some syringes for the task too.
grace

Grace

 

[Baditude]

I won't be getting anymore Duals thats for sure. The first tank I got and setup was a Pyrex tank from ValleyViewVapes and a LR boge. That setup is by far my fave. I haven't tried a SR boge single coil...yet. I'm tring the Kanger single horizontal coil next. I was plaining to try SR after getting familiar with LR and see what I like better.
So far, the dual's NOT impressed. But now I'm stuck with 10 of them. sigh. I did see a method for cleaning cartos using a large syrenge and achohol. Flushing them out with the achohol several times them with distilled water. I think I'm gonna give that a try. But haven't tried to clean a carto before, and I need to get some syringes for the task too.
grace

Grace

Not sure all that effort is going to accomplish much. I'm seeing two issues here:

Dual coils and low resistance might not be your way to a favorable vape.

Cheap juice that nothing will improve them.

Mark it up to a learning experience. Try some better quality juice and some single coil carts in standard or high resistance for a Provari.

 

[GraceH]

I do have some flavors from other vendor's (juice only vendor) D&D and ECBlend. I'll try those in the Duals. Cleaning everything out first and using fresh cartos.
The setup I had before was a knock-off ego-c. I did use the these orange and peach flavors in it and didn't notice a soapy taste. But idk, i guessed that could just be compairing apple and oranges. I do get ALOT more flavor from the cartos. So I figured thats why i didn't taste it in the other setup or it's the carto's. Shrug
Grace

 

[GraceH]

The problem could just be my taste buds too. I'll try some different flavors in the duals and see what happens before I give up on them totally. Special since its not normal from the duals.

Thanks for all of your help and input!!!!
I'll let you know after I experiment. I'll post what I do and what happens here in case anyone is interested in fallow-up reports.
Again, thanks for your help.
Grace

 

[DemonCow]

Hope it all works out, good luck!

 

[GraceH]

yup, it was that vendors juice. Changed flavors and carto and it wasn't there. I still have one more flavor from that vendor, a vanilla. I think I'll hold onto that one and pass it on to my son. I'm giving him my Ego-c and since i didn't taste the soapy taste with it, he shouldn't mind. I haven't tried it in a carto but i'd just rather not. Plus, i'll give him another to get him started off.

Thanks again!!!!
Grace

 

[Cycles Gladiator]

I'm having a similar problem. Got a few juices from MBV. Tried one in my eroll and was great. Put it in my DCT with a carto on its last breath and was fine till the carto burned out. Primed a new carto, put it in, then filled the tank. Now it tastes like soap. Tried again but with a LR carto and same problem. Will have to try different juice in the dct and same juice in a different device when I get home tonight.

 

[crxess]

Did you bother to wash out the Tanks before using? My boge F16 was one NASTY experience - ruined 2 cartos and the juice. Then I went, Hey stupid, you forgot to clean it first.
Clean tank, good carto, fresh juice............WOW, so nice.