Debate on e-cigs tomorrow on Q

[farmer_bric]

Just heard that there will be a panel discussion/debate on Q.
Schedule for Monday January 6 | Q with Jian Ghomeshi | CBC Radio

 

[Talyon]

TY for sharing.

 

[Zurd]

Could be interesting, it will be a : "debate between deputy editor of the Canadian Medical Association Journal Dr. Matthew Stanbrook, who argues against the e-cigarette and Columbia University professor Amy Fairchild, who argues for greater tolerance."

I found an article from Dr. Stanbrook here:
E-cigarettes could hook new generation on nicotine, medical journal warns | Globalnews.ca

There's not much in it, except that he says people using ecig will use it and also continue to smoke analogs at the same time. I don't know where he gets his data but personally I found the opposite on ECF. Anyone trying ecigs will find that analogs doesn't taste good and will quit it.

 

[Thomasis]

After reading that article it's apparent how close minded Dr. Standbrook is. He's not willing to accept widely known facts that most e-cig users don't continue to smoke. His attitude is very blunt, he wants to control the general public with "the most useful tool created" to deter smoking. When will people realize they should only control their own fate, not others. I would love to see his track record. He has based is opinions on turning his back on proven facts, talk about dangerous intentions.

 

[umarbutt610]

Could be interesting, it will be a : "debate between deputy editor of the Canadian Medical Association Journal Dr. Matthew Stanbrook, who argues against the e-cigarette and Columbia University professor Amy Fairchild, who argues for greater tolerance."

I found an article from Dr. Stanbrook here:
E-cigarettes could hook new generation on nicotine, medical journal warns | Globalnews.ca

There's not much in it, except that he says people using ecig will use it and also continue to smoke analogs at the same time. I don't know where he gets his data but personally I found the opposite on ECF. Anyone trying ecigs will find that analogs doesn't taste good and will quit it.

My friend and I started almost at the same time about a month ago. Honestly, now analogs seem so bitter and I dont want to smoke them even if I try. The same thing happened with my friend. This is what I love about PVs. You dont quit analogs but they get quit automatically.

 

[Wolffy]

While not totally pro e cigarette Amy Fairchild hopes for a more balanced and well thought out approach aiming primarily at tobacco harm reduction. For equal time here is an article co-authored by Ms. Fairchild.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/09/opinion/the-case-for-tolerating-e-cigarettes.html?_r=0

 

[runout_mick]

I have a feeling that the comment I left on the site will not be approved, so I'll post it here for posterity:

I'm going to have to go ahead and respectfully ask Dr. Stanbrook to pull his head out of his .... Much of the data he cites is flat out wrong, and his way of looking at this issue is inside out.

The first and foremost duty of any doctor is to "Do no harm.". If even one smoker dies because they took his biased opinions to heart, someone that otherwise would have switched to vaping and lived, then he has failed utterly at his vocation.

I smoked 2 packs a day for over 25 years, actively trying to quit for 20 of them. Smoking was literally killing me (I have peripheral arterial disease), and still I couldn't quit. Three years ago I switched to vaping, and haven't touched a cigarette since my first kit came in the mail. There is a good chance that I'd be dead now if I hadn't switched.

If I had to wait 10 years for health Canada to approve these devices before I could use them, I'd be dead. I'm an addict, and I can live with that. What I can't live with is having arrogant misinformed zealots like the good doctor shape policies that have a direct impact on the quality and length of my life.

 

[Zurd]

runout_kick, wish I could like your post a million times!

That was really well said!

 

[DaveP]

I suppose that the good doctor thinks that people will just buy a Nicorette inhaler and use it as a substitute for cigarettes. Studies show that 93% don't quit using the inhaler. The numbers for vaping and quitting are for more impressive for those who continue vaping. The anti-ecig world just sees ecigs as a substitute that makes people look like they still smoke. To them, if it looks like a duck, it must be a duck.

 

[Wolffy]

I have a feeling that the comment I left on the site will not be approved, so I'll post it here for posterity:

I'd count on that reply never seeing the light of day on that papers website although I'm sure that a couple of censors got a chuckle out of it. The biggest problem is some 'experts' like Stanbrook can't stand innovation because it disagrees with their 'superior intellect' so the truth has to be ignored.

If you want to see experts wearing blinders, the Canadian Lung Association has an few choice disinformative pages on e cigarettes.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Realize the "good" Dr. Matthew Stanbrook has been financially supported/ paid by the various ANTZ orgs for various presentations.

 

[blaufisch]

Your comment was approved on CBC.ca:
Q debate: Is "vaping" e-cigarettes a good way to quit smoking? | Q with Jian Ghomeshi | CBC Radio

nice one!