Decision-Making Amongst Four Clones... Advice?

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Vaya

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I currently own the following:




I'm looking to expand my arsenal by one or two more mods; the VTR and SVD take care of all my processor-infused vaping needs, and I've recently just fell ln love with mechanical mods.

I won't buy the FastTech's version of the Valkyrie because it looks awful compared to the Ephros clone. But I have my eye trained on that mod, and hard.

The other contenders are a Stingray, a Nemesis, or a Chi You (all clones).

I've exhausted myself looking amongst these four and want to reach out to the community to provide me with some tips and advice. Let's *assume* I'd be only purchasing one of these four devices. Which would you choose, and more importantly, WHY?

I'm not a novice vaper, having been going strong for over three years; additionally, I've recently become proficient in both dripping and rebuilding (Atomic, Trident, authentic Patriot RDA's and the iHybrid Pure's RBA). So please go ahead and talk about mesh wicks, magnetized buttons versus springs, voltage-drop, sub-ohms, differential metal conductivity re: firing pins, etc.

Thank you in advance!!

~ Vaya
 

dice57

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The Nemesis Hcigar clone is a winner, twas my first mech mod. Even the anodized colored tubes fit on this. I do own an Authentic Stingray Copper Black edition, and it is top notch.

Have completed my Mech mod addiction and have ventured back into the Regulated high amp mods. Currently have a Beast Box VV and a futura DNA30, awaiting shipment of the SuperMax.

Now that some regulated devices can go down as low as 0.2 ohms, we have a new vape game. With the DNA30 going down to 0.5 ohms, it's made building coils more of an art form and not having to worry about precise ohm target, one can focus more on the mechanics of the build for the specific rba.
 

Vaya

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Interesting; I was not at all aware that regulated APV's now can tolerate sub-ohm builds... although, I suppose that's not true - the VTR still fires on 0.6ohm builds I've had, but the SVD just glares red at me when I even try!

Thanks for the information!!

I haven't heard of the SuperMax before... and only 'heard,' never even seen, the DNA30... off to check out some pictures now!
 

barneyruckus

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The Nemesis Hcigar clone is a winner
I have a HCigar Vape Royalty Edition Nemesis Clone. An awesome vape.
I should note that you will need the long positive adjusting screw to use all the configurations including the "beauty ring" (which really finishes the piece). It's possible to get it to work without the long screw, but the only way I've been able to do it is to adjust the negative screw all the way out, which makes the switch wobbly and may not have enough pressure from the spring to hold the mod up without firing when set down. It will work, but I found it to be a pain, so I just removed the beauty ring. Someday I'll make it over to Vape Revolution to pick up that screw. So far, it's the only place I know of that carries the legit Atmomixani Nemesis.
 

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I currently own the following:


  • Innokin VTR
  • Green iHybrid Pure
  • Innokin SVD
  • MCV Panzer
  • "iHybrid" FastTech Clone


I'm looking to expand my arsenal by one or two more mods; the VTR and SVD take care of all my processor-infused vaping needs, and I've recently just fell ln love with mechanical mods.

I won't buy the FastTech's version of the Valkyrie because it looks awful compared to the Ephros clone. But I have my eye trained on that mod, and hard.

The other contenders are a Stingray, a Nemesis, or a Chi You (all clones).

I've exhausted myself looking amongst these four and want to reach out to the community to provide me with some tips and advice. Let's *assume* I'd be only purchasing one of these four devices. Which would you choose, and more importantly, WHY?

I'm not a novice vaper, having been going strong for over three years; additionally, I've recently become proficient in both dripping and rebuilding (Atomic, Trident, authentic Patriot RDA's and the iHybrid Pure's RBA). So please go ahead and talk about mesh wicks, magnetized buttons versus springs, voltage-drop, sub-ohms, differential metal conductivity re: firing pins, etc.

Thank you in advance!!

~ Vaya

There is a reason why there are hundreds of thousands of Nemesis clones and thousands of originals being used, so if you don't mind the lack of originality, I would say grab the Nemesis.

However, that said, a mech is simply a battery tube with varying degrees of aesthetics and voltage drop. Your topper, and how well its built is what really makes the difference between a fantastic vape vs something that can be replicated or even surpassed by an ego battery/clearomizer setup.

For myself, not so enamored by mechs as much as I used to be now that I use a DNA30 device. But, I still prefer the simplicity, form factor and aesthetic appeal over anything out there.

Good luck with you purchase, I think whatever you end up getting, you will be very happy with it until you run across something else that appeals to you more, and so is the pattern that may of us go through ;)
 

rhean

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This wasn't on your list and it's telescopic, but I just received a Rai Launcher clone, and the button is incredible. Recessed, smooth, perfect. It's weird to forget about a locking ring, but it's convenient at the same time. The threads are smooth, the mod is heavy, copper contacts, great all around. It unfortunately resembles a sex toy only a robot could love, but nothing is perfect.
 

Vaya

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^ I'll have to remember they.

ALL of your replies, in fact; I'm very grateful!

I got talked into an all brass Turtleship v2, brass Kracken and brass VA drip tip. It wasn't even on that list, but it looked so beautiful... I couldn't resist!

I think, though, based in the responses I've gotten here, the Nemesis will be my next buy :) :) Sounds just delicious...
 

nerdstaz

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I had the Infinite Panzer recently. The bottom pin is a nightmare - really hard to get out with a hammer even. Once you get it out once and file down the plastic enclosure holding it - it becomes a decent mod. Before when I switched between attys I had some issues getting it to fit without a gap. After my tinkering though, it was fine. Hope this helps! I recommend the H.Cigar Nemesis. The clone I wish I would have chosen!
 

cvedrick

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I am running both nemesis and chi you. Hcigar for the former and Hcigar and ehpro for the latter.

Of the two, I am liking the switch, lock ring and air control ring better on the chi yous and the EHpro over the hcigar.

My hcigar switch is a bit buggy even with magnets.

The chi has sturdier tubes, but I found that only the kick ring will work on the hcigar but the chi you allows it in any ring.

Ran across some sigelei clones of both (or at least that iswho the guy got them from) and approve of the switches on both. Nice and smooth and will not autofire while table parked with a Kayfun 3.1 in kicked 650 mode.
 

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I've been eyeing the EHPro Valkyrie too, mainly because I'm just getting started with dripping. You can build single or double coils, and the unit has adjustable air holes for either build type. It seems to be enough to even do sub-ohming on if you want.

Downside is you may have to do some minor work on the button before you can use it. In addition, I'd have to buy batteries and a charger since it would be my first mod - which would cost more than the Valkyrie clone.

The thing is beautiful, though....
 
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