deejStuff is HERE! (Part Two!)
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Bed time for Cinderella, need up be up and moving early tomorrow.Very busy day, school, Dr. appt, pick up step son, then home and prepping a turkey for tomorrows b'day dinner for DH...Geez! I am exhausted just typing that 
Whew!!
Using a Gillette Fusion?
Ralph can override the tech answers I'm about to give...
Effective voltage (to my mind) isn't the question... effective power (wattage) is...
Understand... I've had only a tiny amount of coffee as yet, but using a 1.5ohm carto on an MBM would have it run at 15.4 watts
MBM @ 4.8v: P = ( E / R ) * E = ( 4.8 / 1.5 ) * 4.8 = 3.2 * 4.8 = 15.36 Watts
(where P = power in watts, E = voltage, R = resistance in ohms)
EGO @ 3.7v: P = ( E / R ) * E = ( 3.7 / 1.5 ) * 3.7 = 2.4666 * 3.7 = 9.12642 Watts (some rounding)
(where P = power in watts, E = voltage, R = resistance in ohms)
When I used a tank on my MBM, what I found was not that I needed to pump it, but that I didn't hold the switch down as long. If I had to guess, I'd say for 2 seconds (?)... the response was VERY fast.
For comparison, on a 3.7 power source it'd be a bit longer... 3 or 4 secs. But then, even when I smoked I didn't inhale directly... I filled my mouth, then inhaled that. I vape the same way.
Now... as to using a tank on the MBM... the switch wasn't the problem, it was the lip of the MGM's lid that was the problem. To use the tank on an MBM, you need a 510-510 adapter to extend the connector enough that the bottom of the tank clears the lip.
Using the adapter would be needed even on the smaller tank... it's not the diameter that gets you... it's the lip on the MBM lid.
Anyway... I've used the tank on my MBM, ProVari, and regular/extended EGO batts. I liked it best on the MBM and ProVari (set to 4.2v).
(man... I hope this all made sense...)
Oh! The pre-drilled carto is the same resistance as the cartos I was bundling with the MBM... Ralph had already "approved" that resistance....
(all calcs based on perfect DC circuits... good thing, too, as I doubt I could calculate Thevenin equivalencies for AC anymore...)
Bad kitty. Do not try to confuse me with watts. I barely understand volts.
I never do a direct inhale so that's not the problem. And I have 510-510 adapters.
When I use a stock 3.7 battery I get a nice amount of vapor.
When I use a Chuck and a 3.7 battery, I get a little more vapor and a lot more flavor. (And my stupid hand hurts -- I think I have pre-carpal syndrome.)
When I use my MBMs, I get the perfect amount of vapor and great flavor. (And my hand doesn't hurt unless I have been going steady with my computer mouse that day.)
When I use a Chuck and two 3.0 batteries (6.0V), I get a huge amount of vapor, the liquid tastes blech and I cough like I'm in the last act of Camille. (And I did not cough when I smoked.)
My hits (depressing the switch) probably run 5 seconds. I like that I doubt I can (or want to) change it.
Will I like the tank?
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Bed time for Cinderella, need up be up and moving early tomorrow.Very busy day, school, Dr. appt, pick up step son, then home and prepping a turkey for tomorrows b'day dinner for DH...Geez! I am exhausted just typing that
Good night, Cinderella!
Bad kitty. Do not try to confuse me with watts. I barely understand volts.
I never do a direct inhale so that's not the problem. And I have 510-510 adapters.
When I use a stock 3.7 battery I get a nice amount of vapor.
When I use a Chuck and a 3.7 battery, I get a little more vapor and a lot more flavor. (And my stupid hand hurts -- I think I have pre-carpal syndrome.)
When I use my MBMs, I get the perfect amount of vapor and great flavor. (And my hand doesn't hurt unless I have been going steady with my computer mouse that day.)
When I use a Chuck and two 3.0 batteries (6.0V), I get a huge amount of vapor, the liquid tastes blech and I cough like I'm in the last act of Camille. (And I did not cough when I smoked.)
My hits (depressing the switch) probably run 5 seconds. I like that I doubt I can (or want to) change it.
Will I like the tank?
Yes.
See. That wasn't so hard. What's the earliest you expect to have them in. (I'd prefer to place my pre-order over the weekend when my life calms down a bit but will go find my plastic now if I have to.)
As it stands right now, sometime around the 20th of this month. FDA/Customs willing, of course.
There hasn't been a big pre-order rush, so I'd say you've got time.
I can't believe that worked.
And smooches too!!
Bed time for Cinderella, need up be up and moving early tomorrow.Very busy day, school, Dr. appt, pick up step son, then home and prepping a turkey for tomorrows b'day dinner for DH...Geez! I am exhausted just typing that
Good night, Carrie! Sorry I took a while.
For those asking about the ohms of atties/cartos vs voltage of the batts, etc., here's an excellent resource that helped me understand it better:
FAQ: What are these HV and LR attys? Do I need them? Are they safe to use? | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette
I had no knowledge of this stuff before this (or engineering, etc.
). This page helped me get it, just by checking the table to see what would work well.
I hope it's helpful to others too!
FAQ: What are these HV and LR attys? Do I need them? Are they safe to use? | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette
I had no knowledge of this stuff before this (or engineering, etc.
). This page helped me get it, just by checking the table to see what would work well.I hope it's helpful to others too!
For those asking about the ohms of atties/cartos vs voltage of the batts, etc., here's an excellent resource that helped me understand it better:
FAQ: What are these HV and LR attys? Do I need them? Are they safe to use? | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette
I had no knowledge of this stuff before this (or engineering, etc.
I hope it's helpful to others too!
Thanks, sonic!! A good resource!
I think I've got it.
I am deliriously happy using a standard genuine Joye 510 atty which should be about 2.2 ohms on my 4.8V MBM. Therefore my ideal wattage is 10.5W (and the amps are also about 2.2.)
Using the same atomizer on my Chuck at 6V would give me 16.4 watts (at 2.7 amps). It makes me cough and choke.
If the tank with 4.8V would yield 15.36 watts, wouldn't that be too high for me?
I am deliriously happy using a standard genuine Joye 510 atty which should be about 2.2 ohms on my 4.8V MBM. Therefore my ideal wattage is 10.5W (and the amps are also about 2.2.)
Using the same atomizer on my Chuck at 6V would give me 16.4 watts (at 2.7 amps). It makes me cough and choke.
If the tank with 4.8V would yield 15.36 watts, wouldn't that be too high for me?
Poe,
I've tried 2.7 cartos (8.5 watts) and 2.0 DCC (11.5 watts) in a tank on the MBM and i like both, though i like 8.5 watts slightly better. Neither makes me cough. Are you sure the tank with a DCC would yield 14 watts? i used the simple calculator linked from the page that sonic posted Ohm's and Joule's Law Calculator and it looks like the DCC (assuming 2 Ohm) in a tank on the MBM would be really close to your preferred range.
of course, it's math- so one or more of my asssumptions is likely to be wrong
I've tried 2.7 cartos (8.5 watts) and 2.0 DCC (11.5 watts) in a tank on the MBM and i like both, though i like 8.5 watts slightly better. Neither makes me cough. Are you sure the tank with a DCC would yield 14 watts? i used the simple calculator linked from the page that sonic posted Ohm's and Joule's Law Calculator and it looks like the DCC (assuming 2 Ohm) in a tank on the MBM would be really close to your preferred range.
of course, it's math- so one or more of my asssumptions is likely to be wrong
I used the calculator the page Sonic linked to linked to: Ohm's and Joule's Law Calculator
So far, only 6.0V (with a regular, not low-res) atomizer makes me cough. I now reserve that voltage for dry burns and vape at 3.7V with my dear Chucks.
If it's the same as the clear DCC that came with my first MBM, then it's good. If not, I'll wait until Ralph checks in. I'm off to my Dad's for the day which is a big part of why I'm not actually buying until this weekend. Dad's thinking of moving to assisted living. My sister can get there this afternoon so we all have a meeting with social services so he can make the final decision.
So far, only 6.0V (with a regular, not low-res) atomizer makes me cough. I now reserve that voltage for dry burns and vape at 3.7V with my dear Chucks.
If it's the same as the clear DCC that came with my first MBM, then it's good. If not, I'll wait until Ralph checks in. I'm off to my Dad's for the day which is a big part of why I'm not actually buying until this weekend. Dad's thinking of moving to assisted living. My sister can get there this afternoon so we all have a meeting with social services so he can make the final decision.
I hope things go well today Poeia. sending good thoughts your way
(we used the same calculator...as i suspected, an assumption of mine somewhere was probably wrong. best to wait for Ralph even if you didn't have other plans)
(we used the same calculator...as i suspected, an assumption of mine somewhere was probably wrong. best to wait for Ralph even if you didn't have other plans)
Good day Deej...sters.
Good luck, Poeia!
510 SR attys on Rivas and e-power from Deej for me, don't know much beyond that...
Good luck, Poeia!
510 SR attys on Rivas and e-power from Deej for me, don't know much beyond that...
I believe it is, unless Ralph slipped in a higher resistance...
The only diff between the clear and the stainless is the casing, and the only diff between a regular stainless and the tank carto is the hole in the side and the flange at the bottom. The guts are the same.
My thoughts go with you also...
Hiya, CES.
The tank cartos are 1.5 ohm (+/- 0.2)...
Hiya, JaG!
Now, where's that "mystery eyes" woman hiding? I was able to coax one post out of her yesterday, a smooch even...yay!! 
This just in from the latest stalker's network news desk (kidding, it's a joke!!), a certain kitty was spotted online this week.
This just in from the latest stalker's network news desk (kidding, it's a joke!!), a certain kitty was spotted online this week.
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