Define "HIGH END" mods

[kidradical]

Im from the philippines... And we have some serious modz and great modders... But they are eating us alive wich i consider very very very high price...
And i dint know why can a chinese clone a mod into 1:1 copy in a $20 tag compared to $180 legit mod, same steel, brass, copper..
And the sad part... Modders here in the philippines asking for high price not knowing they are not patented.. Thats why theres no arguments when you clone their works... But they still ask for damn price tag for a tube from a modder that has no patent and has a backyard machine shop.. Thats is the sad part.

Now i dont call that a luxury or high end.

 

[Kaezziel]

I know, I really wanted an authentic Ruzgar... but holy crap those things were expensive (Philippine manufacturer)
There are some differences, the clones do not have as good quality control, so tolerances can be not as tight on them as the originals... but, I agree, the price of authentic tube mods is ridiculous!

 

[kidradical]

I know, I really wanted an authentic Ruzgar... but holy crap those things were expensive (Philippine manufacturer)
There are some differences, the clones do not have as good quality control, so tolerances can be not as tight on them as the originals... but, I agree, the price of authentic tube mods is ridiculous!

Its crazy... I have an nzonic v4 legit... My friend has a clone nzonic v4... The nzonic of my friend has a lower voltage drop than mine( why? because the clone has silver plated copper pins the legit doesnt.) And hits harder. Even actualy looks the same and feels the same... How can i say now that im holding a high end mod because its legit?

 

[JohnnyBGoode]

High end to me is something that performs better than the current average.
Price is not really an issue in e-cig land. Even the most expensive models (not counting those with diamonds like that ego) set you back 2 months worth of ciggies. For most of us, having smoked for yrs, this should be considered affordable. I would never spend 200,- on a steel tube though but each its own.
Performance wise a few mods are currently what I would consider high end but that might change in the coming months.

 

[eratikmind]

Im from the philippines... And we have some serious modz and great modders... But they are eating us alive wich i consider very very very high price...
And i dint know why can a chinese clone a mod into 1:1 copy in a $20 tag compared to $180 legit mod, same steel, brass, copper..
And the sad part... Modders here in the philippines asking for high price not knowing they are not patented.. Thats why theres no arguments when you clone their works... But they still ask for damn price tag for a tube from a modder that has no patent and has a backyard machine shop.. Thats is the sad part.

Now i dont call that a luxury or high end.

I have 2 early JD Tech Stingray mods, which I really enjoy. However, nothing new and innovative has been introduced by them. It's the same mod coming out, but in different clothing, if you will.

I see that many vapers are quite pleased with the clones of this particular model. Good for them, I say.

 

[Parkinglaut]

The usage of "high-end" to describe mods probably isn't the best for categorizing them. There aren't really any agreed upon price points, materials, esthetics, or anything that place them in an elevated group. One person's expensive "high-end" mod is another's toilet paper dispenser.

That being said, it's time to contradict myself... Because, to me, there does seem to be some delineation. But in my opinion, it doesn't really have to do with the dollar amount of a mod- not directly at least. A higher price tag is definitely factor, but only in that it separates the casual e-cig user from those who are willing to shell out the money for the best vaping experience. Kind of a status symbol for those who are proud of the mods they've spent a good amount of money on.

And when spending a good amount of money on a mod... it generally means that it is authentic. Something people deem as a merit badge of sorts. Which, to me, is understandable. I take pride in buying authentic. But in the end, it's probably just a way for stores to sell authentic and clones at the same time without explicitly saying, "click here for real" and "click here for fake".


Ps- Not in any way trying to put a value judgement on clones- for me it was a way to test the vaping waters, without taking a financial hit, before I decided to fully invest.

Pps- only posted initially to try meet the new member post requirement... then the rambling began

 

[Circa Survivor]

A tube is a tube. Some may be machined "better," but they perform the same basic function. Clones keep most of the vaping community vaping. I fell for the "Made in 'Murica" crap with the Provari spending almost $200 on it. Some guy with a machine shop in his college making bank off of us with $5 worth of steel doesn't sit right with me. I know I'm exaggerating with that figure, but you get the idea. Buy whatever makes you happy I guess.

 

[RobinBanks]

The term "high end" only refers to price.. as in "the high end of the price range". This is relative and will always fluctuate depending on the devices on the market, the supply and the demand.

Does a higher price indicate better quality? One would hope so. Is that better quality necessary? That's up to the individual to decide.

 

[zahzoo]

Am I one of the few that finds any discussion on the merits of quality for fashionable, designer flashlight tubes somewhat amusing..?

When you think about product evolution in the 21st century most devices trend toward greater technological improvements in form, functionality and performance.

This whole explosion in the mechanical mod market seems to be heading upstream in evolution back towards it's origins of 19th century devices with a love of early 20th century industrial metal fabrication... Retro is cool... but high end? Hmmmm..?

 

[Coldrake]

I don't think I like the term "High End".. I prefer to see it more like "Luxury Vaping".


Edit to add: When are we going to see the solid sterling silver mods?

Coming soon, solid silver, and solid 20k gold Caravela. About 3/4 of the way down the page.

 

[nukleusx]

I think if one knows they will be vaping for years to come , then an initial investment in a quality device will save money in the long run...

Thats how I see it...

 

[Alexdr6]

Couldn't agree more

 

[Alexdr6]

Couldn't agree more

Would you rather drive a kit car or an original? I myself prefer the original but money is always an issue. Whatever makes you stay away from coffin nails aka cigs, butts, fags, squares etc... Is a

 

[tj99959]

I equate "high end" with "quality".

Some devices pass the test of time, and others don't regardless of price.

Here's an example:
This little Mako has been in daily use for almost 4 years now. So even tho' it cost less than $100, it's still qualifies as "high end".

 

[KenD]

Given the price of cigarettes, I don't see how a $250 mod or $150 atty could be considered expensive or a luxury item...

Well, when I smoked Camels were high end compared to the Winstons that were my regulars, and they were certainly high end when compared to cheapo roll-your-own cigarettes. It's all relative.

For me high end mods implies something that is of higher quality than the regular stuff on the market, possibly but not necessarily more rare, and often with a higher price tag. A Semovar is certainly high end, a Provari is as well (though they're not rare exactly). They're not luxury items by any measure, not nearly expensive and exclusive enough to qualify. Many mech mods fit the classification luxury mods better.

 

[cocuZZa00]

I just think "high-end" means "not a clone"....