Dehydration/Just how much water are you drinking?

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Ralikar

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I workout... alot... this leads to overtraining/dehydration. I drink tons of coffee which leads to dehydration. I am on high protein for weights which leads to dehydration.

So I drink a lot of water naturally...

So my question (I looked on the forums under dehydration) is for you "normal" people how much is PG dehydrating you? I'm now vaping like 24/7 and I assumed vaping was mildly dehydrating, but in looking at the forums I notice some people are drinking 2x their normal water and others are having constant hydration problems. So for people that don't drink coffee, overtrain, etc. how much extra water do you take in? I mean, how dehydrating can vaping really be? My throat is fine (I use JC juice) but my skin sucks.

Sadly, I thought that by quitting smoking I would not have to deal with hydration issues so I'm trying to figure out if vapers are pounding water 24/7 like bodybuilders or people are just having a few glasses of water/day extra.

Thanks!
 

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I'd say when I'm at home I'm drinking at least six to eight glasses of water on average. It's winter so it's a real chore to drink that much because I don't "feel" thirsty in the slightest.
A good indication of your hydration is to take note of the colour of your urine and if you "feel" thirsty that means you are already dehydrated.
 

izabella

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I've added a few extra glasses of water a day. I always have liquid by my side, but in the morning it's usually coffee.

For the most part, your body expels what it doesn't need. If you're ...... all the time or more than usual, and it's mostly clear or very light colored, you probably don't need as much water as you're drinking.
 

Lucky In Love

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I found your post because I'm having a few issues and I think it might be because of dehydration. Last week I woke up and exercised in the morning. Not a crazy workout, just a regular 30 minute workout. That night I could not sleep b/c my legs kept feeling like they were going to cramp. I thought perhaps I overworked my legs. I let them rest for the entire week. Only b/c they never started feeling better until Friday. This is pretty abnormal for me when exercising. Sunday they felt better. Monday morning (yesterday) I woke up and it started all over again. They just keep twitching and I feel like they are going to cramp any second. I've never had this problem before and the only thing I've added new was vaping. BUT that was two months ago. Can dehydration just NOW be setting in? I'm not sure what it is, but it has me worried. I've been drinking more water just to hydrate myself, but it doesn't seem to be working. I can't just skip exercising. I'm not sure what to do. Thought about going to doctor, but what do they know about vaping? Are you having problems with muscle cramping? Is that why you ask? Or only because you read that it dehydrates. Help!?
 

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I have not had trouble with muscle cramping, and I've not heard that dehydration causes cramps. Although if you aren't drinking enough water while working out, you should add more since dehydration can cause all kinds of issues.

You might also want to consider whether you are warming up enough before exercising, and if you're getting enough vitamins and electrolytes. When I was running regularly, I remember making sure to eat bananas often as the potassium is helpful in preventing cramps.

Also, check this resource: Read about muscle cramps (charley horse) causes, symptoms, and treatment on MedicineNet.com
 

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Well personally for me restless legs is definitely a hormonal thing. I was cursed with it through all four pregnancies and never had it again. Suddenly it came back again in my early forties and despite what they keep telling me I'm sure it's perimenopause.
It's just that when you said "twitching" and that sensation like your legs are about to cramp? For me it's like a build up of almost crawly tension in my calves and sometimes my feet that makes me HAVE to move them/stretch them or get up and walk around. Drives me crazy!
Now I'm not saying this is it, or that you have RLS (I'm not a doctor:) ) but smoking DOES affect womens hormones so it's a fair guess to say that when you give up smoking your hormone levels might go a bit loopy for a while as you adjust to a new "normal".
If I were you, because it seems that you are concerned about it and in some discomfort I'd go see the doctor just to be sure. Describe it to him/her before mentioning the vaping and see what their guess is and then tell them about the vaping and see what they say.
In my limited experience with doctors and vaping if you tell them straight up they automatically blame vaping (and usually just tell you to stop) without considering other possibilities because most doctors don't know a thing about it.

Also, and I don't know a lot about it but if you're vaping PG then there's the "lactic acid" thing to consider - just search on ECF for the relevant threads. I think from what I've read though that keeping well hydrated should remedy this?
Just throwing it out there for you or anyone else to do more reading about and consider for yourself and discuss with your doctor.
 
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izabella

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In my limited experience with doctors and vaping if you tell them straight up they automatically blame vaping (and usually just tell you to stop) without considering other possibilities because most doctors don't know a thing about it.

You've heard the lame old joke:

"Doc, it hurts when I do this"
"So stop doing that."

Lucky, one other change you made that impacts the body a LOT is that you stopped SMOKING at the same time you started vaping. And I, for one, feel like smokers/former smokers get short-changed by the medical community because the possible effects of quitting smoking...aside from the cardiovascular benefits...are barely touched on.

Especially if people are younger and haven't yet been smoking for many years and are in good health, it's easy to think that quitting is only going to make them healthier and feel better.

But what if the effects of smoking on blood vessels and circulation and hormones was calming or masking a "restless leg syndrome" or something else? And it's just now showing up when the smoking stopped and the body is clearing out the toxins and is without the effect of all those chemicals in cigarettes and all the effects of the smoke?

Will a doc blame it on vaping because it's an easy scapegoat, or admit that they don't really know how quitting smoking effects certain health issues that it may have masked?

As an example, the MAOI's in cigarettes may have managed a person's mild depression, and when they quit smoking (and started vaping!), the mild depression becomes evident and a much bigger problem. Did vaping cause depression? No, it didn't. But that false conclusion can be drawn if the doc doesn't look at ALL the factors, including that cigarettes may have helped people self-medicate their own depression.

Lucky, that article I linked to says "they" don't really know for sure what causes cramps. There are many possibilities. I have no idea what might be causing your issues, but it might be worthwhile to consider if it's a withdrawal from smoking symptom as well as a vaping symptom.

Go to a doctor and get checked out, for sure. In the meantime, if you can stop vaping, or can vape zero nic, or change up your pg/vg levels, try that and see if your issue improves.

Sorry to go off-topic! It's just that I've been trying to figure out if a symptom I have is a known short or long term side-effect of quitting smoking, and have been appalled at how little information there is.
 

Ralikar

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Leg twitching is also a sign of overtraining--you can look at the bodybuilding sites on adrenal fatigue and overtraining. FYI, for me, exercise and coffee and nicotine are all interrelated as in they are massive stimulants to the system. IF I vape a ton or take a ton of coffee it alters my exercise patterns and I have many overtraining symptoms. This really hasn't been discussed at all on the forums but you really need to be careful and understand the interplay of exercise and stimulants. I finally took one day off from all exercise yesterday and my metabolism dropped and I was able to drink massive amounts of coffee and vape huge amounts of nic with no problem. Normally, I workout 2x/day and the exercise combined with vaping and caffeine causes me some problems. So the 'you can vape all day' attitude here is NOT for people who exercise tons--there will probably be some effects on your body.
 
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