Vaping and dehydration.

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poolslime

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VG and PG are hydrophillic and absorb moisture, but only to a point. The info you linked to is talking about absolutely pure chemicals (lab type). The ones we know are already hydrated so they have no dehydrating effect. That's why both appear regularly in skin care stuff, moisturising shampoos etc - they are used to retain moisture (just as their use with tobacco).

I thought of one way that vaping would increase water loss, but it has nothing to do with VG / PG - when vaping we blow out air from the mouth whereas in normal breathing mostly through the nose (that longer path releases less water). But that isn't going to add up to much!

Yes, PG is hygroscopic, but it is also miscible with water. It doesn't matter if PG is in water, the effects can still occur. You are only talking about dilution at this point.

Unfortunately, it's a bit hard to find actual studies of composition of e-liquid, but here is one example of testing of Crown-7 liquid. Among all of the other components, it was found to contain at over 60% PG Wt-%, and over 8% water Wt-%. However, the vapor had over 2% PG Wt-%, and the water was over 66% Wt-%. Granted I don't have numbers for every liquid we vape, because frankly there are a severe lack of studies to provide the results. But based on the above, I don't see how that can be considered hydrated.

I found a couple more that didn't list water at all (though more likely they either were not testing for it, or didn't include it in the list for whatever reason), and one with water content less than 1% in the liquid (no composition of vapor).
 

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I don't see how it could actually cause dehydration either, but knowing I had to give blood today, I drank LOTS of water. They said my blood was still running sluggish, as if I were dehydrated. Go figure!

It doesn't cause clinical dehydration but it does dry out your mouth. Drink on vape on!
 
Yes, PG is hygroscopic, but it is also miscible with water. It doesn't matter if PG is in water, the effects can still occur. You are only talking about dilution at this point.

Unfortunately, it's a bit hard to find actual studies of composition of e-liquid, but here is one example of testing of Crown-7 liquid. Among all of the other components, it was found to contain at over 60% PG Wt-%, and over 8% water Wt-%. However, the vapor had over 2% PG Wt-%, and the water was over 66% Wt-%. Granted I don't have numbers for every liquid we vape, because frankly there are a severe lack of studies to provide the results. But based on the above, I don't see how that can be considered hydrated.

I found a couple more that didn't list water at all (though more likely they either were not testing for it, or didn't include it in the list for whatever reason), and one with water content less than 1% in the liquid (no composition of vapor).

No no. It's not the composition of the vapor, it's the composition of the exhaled breath, which always contains lots of water because the lungs need to be kept moist.
 
It doesn't cause clinical dehydration but it does dry out your mouth. Drink on vape on!

Perhaps not even that - maybe just seems like.

On the other hand, there is the effect I mntioned before and which is easily demonstrated. Pick up and imaginary e-cig and pretend to vape on it for a few minutes, blowing out imaginary vapor ...
 
So it's partly localised dring by beathing out through the mouth, partly an 'inverse placebo' because you are innundated with the idea that this symptom will occur, and just maybe something real, mechanism as yet unknown.

Someone asked me to prove that it doesn't dehydrate - which is of course ridiculous (prove that drinking extra water doesn't cause crop circles!). It's your hypothesis (dehydrating) so the burden is on those who make the claim.
 

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WAIT! Hang on...I have to remove my shoes so I can count. I'll have the answer in a few minutes...don't go away. :p

Keep your shoes on, you don't have that many toes.:laugh:

5 pages of yes it does. 5 pages of no it doesn't. 4 pages of google-fu Bio I facts. Drink a damn glass of water. :glug:


~kidding folks- carry on.
 

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Keep your shoes on, you don't have that many toes.:laugh:

5 pages of yes it does. 5 pages of no it doesn't. 4 pages of google-fu Bio I facts. Drink a damn glass of water. :glug:


~kidding folks- carry on.

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Actually I have a Red Bull permanently attached to my left hand... That counts as liquids, right? Oh that reminds me, can you vape caffeine? ;)

that does not count as a liquid that helps hydrate lol. I myself have been chained to a red bull, they just work and taste so good, but they make me really dehydrated with no water, if you urine isn't almost clear than u got a problem is all i know
 
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