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I strongly recommend a separate ohmmeter. I have found it useful, over time, to have just one on which you do your actual measuring because the ones in the mod are not calibrated, or at least not calibrated to read the same. Further, it serves as an independent check on the mod measurement. Finally, it serves as a handy building stand with no danger of accidentally firing a partially built coil that might be shorted at the time by grabbing the mod to steady it or whatever. You can get them online for as little as 10 bucks, but let me recommend USAOhmmeters. I find their products both more accurate and longer lasting. If you want to blow the bucks-- I don't-- they make one that you can put an 18650 battery in and fire the coil to anneal it or test for even heating without ever putting it on the mod. I don't, as I said. I build and test my coils on the ohmmeter, and fire the coil on the mod. Then I usually put it back on the ohmmeter to wick it. You will hear other opinions, I make no doubt; some people do not agree, so this is just my :2c:
 

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I would recommend getting a ohm reading device. I use mine all the time. Make sure you read it on the RDA or Tank you made the coil for and you will get a true reading. This is very important if you are making sub ohm coils. I can put an RDA on two or three of my different mods and get different readings.
 

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Everyone who has one will recommend you to get one.. mainly cuz they use it as a building stand.
As for needing one, no you absolutely don't.. unless you WANT one :)
If you have a device that has a proper ohm reader, you're good to go.. Usually when you watch reviews of products, they will most likely mention if a specific device has an ohm reader that's way off..
Right now I have 3 RDAs, 3 RTAs, some subtanks with RBA sections on my table and so far I've been good without one.. so if you have like a single tank or a dripper.. you probably don't need one either..
You might want something comfortable to build on.. so yeah sure, if you want one and have the extra money for it, go ahead by all means.. or just get a stand or whatever.. I for example made my own little building stand from a piece of solid heavy insulator (textolite) and an ego adapter with a 510 center that I drilled into the textolite block. It works better for building than any stand / ohm reader I've seen on the market.
As for ohms.. for example the way I build for mechanicals (where ohms matter a bit more..) is I make my calculations on steam-engine.. build the coils then usually verify it on my evic VTC mini (which is fairly accurate). And guess what.. 0.3 ohm build I configured on steam-engine was measured by the VTC as 0.30.. so as far as accuracy goes I'm more than satisfied.

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If all the electrical problems that might occur with vaping were only in the atomizer, NEVER the mod. Then yeah, you don't need a separate meter. BUT, fact is the mod itself is often part of the problems we have.. So if your mod is acting up, how do you diagnose the issue, without a good VOLT/OHM meter. Note, I am not referring to a atomizer tester type meter, here. Those are really only good for building coil not diagnosing a problem. The Mods meter is good for telling you what is happening, not how to fix it.
 
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I actually prefer to use a device as a ohm reader so I can fire it instead of burning, just make sure it has low ohm protection like the VTC mini, it won't even let you fire coils under certain conditions.. if you guys are using ohm readers make sure to burn the coil and test otherwise it could be off a lil...

wanna know how accurate it is? test on mod then test it at a vape shop on a ohm reader and compare..
 
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How accurate is using a device (SIGELEI FUCHAI 200W TC BOX MOD) for reading ohms on building coils?
do i need to buy a separate ohm reader?
im just startin building im looking in to buying a mutation silver v2.


I would recommend a real ohms meter for two reasons .

1. More accurate meter.
2. You can't accidentally Fire the coil if it is fsulty.
2b. You won't accidentally burn the cotton wick.
 
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If all the electrical problems that might occur with vaping were only in the atomizer, NEVER the mod. Then yeah, you don't need a separate meter. BUT, fact is the mod itself is often part of the problems we have.. So if your mod is acting up, how do you diagnose the issue, without a good VOLT/OHM meter. Note, I am not referring to a atomizer tester type meter, here. Those are really only good for building coil not diagnosing a problem. The Mods meter is good for telling you what is happening, not how to fix it.

They were obviously talking about atomizer testing ohm readers with 510 connections... What you're referring to is a digital multimeter and yea.. I have several of those and they come in handy :)
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As has already been said, the best argument for having a separate ohm reader is that you'll always have something to double-check your builds if there's something wonky going on.

I have at least a dozen devices capable of reading resistance, some more accurately than others, and I still use an atomizer ohm tester.

And I'll throw in another vote for a USA ohm meter even though I don't like the way they state the accuracy - but it is extremely accurate. I have the 3D printed ohm meter, and I'll probably be getting a 3D Fire meter at some point.
 

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So there ya go.. I think all arguments have been presented..
Personally I think of them like I do of coiler kits.. If you don't have them you CAN certainly live without them, but if you've been using them for a while you get lazy and you miss them afterwards if you don't have access to them..

On the other hand, the OP mentioned that he's just getting into rebuilding.. So personally I still think that if he has a single rebuildable atomizer that he uses on a regulated box mod.. it would be a waste of money and table-space for him to go buy an ohm reader and do what?.. rebuild his atomizer once every 2 months? especially since we're talking about a regulated box here so it doesn't even matter what the resistance will come out to as long as it's in the range of the device..
 

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They were obviously talking about atomizer testing ohm readers with 510 connections... What you're referring to is a digital multimeter and yea.. I have several of those and they come in handy :)
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I realize what they were referring too.. And if your mod has the ability to read the ohms of an atty, then no you don't NEED a atomizer ohm meter..

That said, IMO, if you have a MOD, and especially if you are DIY the coils or wicking, then you do need a stand alone Voltage and Ohm reading meter. Along with a 510 ohm tester/ meter.
 

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So there ya go.. I think all arguments have been presented..
Personally I think of them like I do of coiler kits.. If you don't have them you CAN certainly live without them, but if you've been using them for a while you get lazy and you miss them afterwards if you don't have access to them..

On the other hand, the OP mentioned that he's just getting into rebuilding.. So personally I still think that if he has a single rebuildable atomizer that he uses on a regulated box mod.. it would be a waste of money and table-space for him to go buy an ohm reader and do what?.. rebuild his atomizer once every 2 months? especially since we're talking about a regulated box here so it doesn't even matter what the resistance will come out to as long as it's in the range of the device..

While the op is testing different resistances to find the sweet spot he will be building a lot more often than every two months.

Using an ohm meter untikl you know what you are doing is a good thing. Call if just in case insurance.
 

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I realize what they were referring too.. And if your mod has the ability to read the ohms of an atty, then no you don't NEED a atomizer ohm meter..

That said, IMO, if you have a MOD, and especially if you are DIY the coils or wicking, then you do need a stand alone Voltage and Ohm reading meter. Along with a 510 ohm tester/ meter.

I would disage for the three reasons I listed above
 

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I would disage for the three reasons I listed above

What are you disagreeing with???

The comment you quoted says that IF you have a MOD any mod then you NEED a meter. Yes, I know it also says that if your mod has a built in meter then you can use it for reading your coils. It's not a contradiction. Because if all you have is the atomizer, then whether you have a meter or not is a moot point.
 

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While the op is testing different resistances to find the sweet spot he will be building a lot more often than every two months.

Using an ohm meter untikl you know what you are doing is a good thing. Call if just in case insurance.

Like I said before.. he is using a regulated VW box mod.. As long as he can craft a decent resistance... any resistance... and position it accordingly (for his TH preference) finding the 'sweet spot' is only a matter of turning the power up or down.. and the resistance doesn't matter
But yea, my apologies.. too many people are fooled by the industry with the whole 'sub-ohm' tank for VW devices concept :) Guess what.. it's not the resistance that turns juice into vapor.. it's heat.. I could give you 3 devices with 3 identical tanks on them all having different resistances and you couldn't tell them apart as long as the settings on those devices are fine-tuned to result in the same amount of heat flux.
As long as we're not talking about mechanical mods.. resistance is only an informative value and not a defining one..
 

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What are you disagreeing with???

The comment you quoted says that IF you have a MOD any mod then you NEED a meter. Yes, I know it also says that if your mod has a built in meter then you can use it for reading your coils. It's not a contradiction. Because if all you have is the atomizer, then whether you have a meter or not is a moot point.

There is more to a sweet spot than just heat.

Resistance IS IMPORTANT. Tweaking the resistance you can have the coil more efficient in consumption of juicd.

Finding the sweet spot wattage wise and power wise can rip through ejuice and battery life quickly. Carefully building to a resistance and adjusting the power level you can improve the taste use the Get longer life out of your battery and juice.

Yes mofs cone with resistance meters but they are not always accurate.

Accidentally pressing the firing button you can quickly butn your brand new wick or burn yourself with a hot coil. In the first few weeks new builders would be well served to borrow or buy an ohm meter until they find the sweet spot.
 
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