Difference in Variable Voltage Batteries ?

[Burgerking13]

Hi Everyone

I currently use an itaste VV 3.0 and Kanger Protank 3 which I really like.
My only question I am sitting on 5 boxes of Dual Coil for the itaste VV and I have been happy with it so I am a bit reluctant to change but what if any are the advantages of some of the higher priced innokin batteries ?
For example the itaste 134 ($134.99) or the itaste 134 Mini ($124.99)
Better smoke ? More draw ?

As usual thank you for all your help
Ed

 

[Shootist]

Actually there is no Advantage to either of those other Innokin batteries. In fact they aren't as good as the iTaste VV V3.

Reason I say that is both the 134's deliver Pulse Width Modulation to the atomizer where as the VV V3 delivers a very flat DC signal/voltage to the atomizer.

Pulse width is where the battery hits the atomizer with the Max voltage for a period of time then turns off for a period of time then back on. It does that over an over in a rate to average out to something close to the voltage or wattage you have it set for.

Save your money and buy a Provape Provari.

 

[440BB]

The only difference in vaping will be battery capacity being greater in the 134. Both models offer replaceable batteries so you can swap them out when low versus wait for a recharge. The biggest difference otherwise is in the appearance, as those models are pretty unique looking and much bigger diameter. The MVP would actually be the easiest move up in price and battery capacity.

Although many may suggest you need a bigger battery as well as a different delivery device, if your setup works well there's not much reason to change it. You may find yourself spending quite a bit to find another sweet spot like you already have!

 

[Burgerking13]

Do you really think I will notice a big difference with the Provari ?

 

[Rickajho]

Shootist and 440BB got it. The electronic innards of your VV V3 won't be different enough from 134 that you are likely to notice a difference in the quality of your vape experience. There's something good to be said for that about the Innokin product line. If you were considering an upgrade, of sorts, to the 134 it would be for the shiny. And the ability to replace the battery. To the MVP2? A more convenient longer run time between charges.

When it comes to how your clearos mentioned would perform though, you wouldn't really experience a noticeable difference.

The 134 is quite pricey and it only comes with a 90 day warranty from what I recall. For that money I agree with Shootist - you would be better off dropping another fifty bucks give or take and getting a Provari that comes with a full one year warranty. Besides the warranty a Provari is really hard to damage anyway. After the warranty? Provape is one of only a handful of USA made places that actually repairs stuff.

 

[Shootist]

Oh as far as I know both the 134's are not variable voltage. They are variable wattage only. Basically the same thing using a different scale.

Like F and C for temperature.

 

[Shootist]

Do you really think I will notice a big difference with the Provari ?

Yes and No. The differences is in the quality of the device, the ability to change the battery instead of having to plug in the device, the accuracy of the voltage being delivered to the atomizer and that it is USA made (Not from China).

Will you see a difference between the 134's and a Provari? IMHO YES YES and YES.

I own both the VV V3 and a Provari. I use my Provari everyday. It goes with me everywhere. The VV V3 stays at home but I do use it most days. It has a second Kayfun on it or a Kanger Mini Protank 3, depending on the day, with a different juice than what I use for my All Day Vape.

I also have 2 Vamo's which see very little use because they have that Pulse Width Modulation.

 

[Rickajho]

Do you really think I will notice a big difference with the Provari ?

Between a VV V3 and a Provari? Just based on performance? That's a tough one to call. Shootist mentioned the matter of Pulse Width Modulation. To boil it down, that how many times a second does the APV "pulse" to produce the voltage you set it to. Really cheap things, like a VV eGo Twist pulse at only 33 Hz. It can actually sound like a coil is hissing at that rate. To the other extreme a Provari pulses way up there in the range of 800 Hz. It's pulsing faster so the coil of a clearo heats much more smoothly.

Innokin APV's are some place in the middle. Much better than a cheap eGo type battery - even your inexpensive VV V3, but not as good as a Provari either.

So will you notice the difference? It's really is hard to say. The Innokin electronics are one of the few things out there that can give a Provari a run for it's money, solely based on the vaping experience. But will any Innokin device ever outlast a Provari for durability - nope.

 

[Burgerking13]

So would you go with the Provari Mini ?
Any other ordering / selection tips ?

 

[joesquid]

Hi Everyone

I currently use an itaste VV 3.0 and Kanger Protank 3 which I really like.
My only question I am sitting on 5 boxes of Dual Coil for the itaste VV and I have been happy with it so I am a bit reluctant to change but what if any are the advantages of some of the higher priced Innokin Batteries ?
For example the itaste 134 ($134.99) or the itaste 134 Mini ($124.99)
Better smoke ? More draw ?

As usual thank you for all your help
Ed

I'm confused I think. You're reluctant to get a better Mod (battery) because you have a bunch of coils. The coils go in your tanks which would be compatable with any of the mods being discussed so that shouldn't affect your decision. Am I misunderstanding something?

 

[Burgerking13]

No I'm the dummy that is confused !
I'm sorry, you are 100% correct.
The PV mini comes with the option to upgrade to an Aspire Nautilus.
Will those carts work with it or do I need new / different carts ?
Sorry again, such a Newbie !
Lol

 

[bluecat]

A battery in a tube is a battery in a tube. You will experience higher battery capacity but have to charge the batteries outside of the device. I own a couple mechs, a svd, a bunch of spinners and some volts (cig alikes). They all perform very closely to one another. The mechs I have kicked with an evolve and a generic. Yes I know people have much more than I do, but I like the form factor of the mechs but I like regulated.

One thing I have learned is that if you are happy there is no reason to switch. The other thing is that the topper plays a big role in the vape. By changing your topper, your vape should change more so than just the battery holder.

On a side note, I do not own one, I see no reason too, if you are going to be spending in the 100+ range for a device you should probably go provari or dna type. Personally I have my eye on a protovapor dna device. Except I cannot justify the price.

 

[Penn]

No I'm the dummy that is confused !
I'm sorry, you are 100% correct.
The PV mini comes with the option to upgrade to an Aspire Nautilus.
Will those carts work with it or do I need new / different carts ?
Sorry again, such a Newbie !
Lol

So your actual question is "will the Protank coils work in a Nautilus." No.

Do you only use one juice (both flavor and nic level)? If so I can see why you would rather use just one topper. If not you can use the protank for one juice and Nautilus for a different one. Or you can use the same flavor in each and determine which you prefer. I prefer the Aspire coils to the Kanger (protank or the others).

 

[Baditude]

Do you really think I will notice a big difference with the Provari ?

Yes.

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Why Provari?

 

[Baditude]

So would you go with the Provari Mini ?
Any other ordering / selection tips ?

Depends upon how long you want your device to be (mini is shorter, so more pocket-friendly for out and about), or how long you want to be able to go before changing batteries.

Both the standard and mini have the same functions/features and electronics. They differ only in what size (length) batteries they take. They cost exactly the same price.

The standard takes an 18490 battery by default. Buy the extended battery cap for about $25 and you can use the longer lasting 18650 battery. I can easily go all day on one 18650 battery.

The mini takes an 18350 battery by default. Buy the extended cap for same $25 and you can use the longer lasting 18490 battery. I get around 6 - 7 hours on an 18350 battery.

Standard and mini (with extended cap)

mini

 

[Burgerking13]

OK gonna put in the Order today !
Thanks everyone for all your great input !!
Last question:
Aspire Nautilus or Kanger Protank 3 ?

 

[Lurch]

IMHO you can not go wrong with a ProVari. I purchased a "blem" last month and absolutely love it. I started with the standard stick batteries (and still use a VV model with MiniProTank2 toppers for when I working in the yard, etc.), moved up to a Tesla. The Tesla costs me more than it should and worked for the first two weeks then began giving me problems. Fixed it and it worked for another month or so and started again. Kept reading reviews here and elsewhere and finally made the decision to go for the ProVari.

I got the standard with an extension cap for the 18650 battery. My battery typically lasts me all day and I do vape all day.

As for a tank recommendation, I have only used Kanger tanks; EVOD's, ProTank2 with an Aero base, and an Aero tank until recently.

I got a Russian 91 (clone) last week. With it on my ProVari I think I have found my "happy spot."

To provide a scale on my preferences in tanks (with 10 being the best)
Russian = 10
Kanger Aero Tank = 8
Kanger ProTank2 with Aero base = 7
Kanger ProTank2 without Aero base= 5
Mini ProTank 2 = 3.5
EVODs = 2.5

Granted, my exposure to different tanks is somewhat limited, but I am happy. And, in my opinion, that's what counts!!! My long term plan is purchase another ProVari and at least two more Russians.

Whatever you decide, I hope it works out well for you.

 

[JMarca]

Good choice on the Provari as far as tanks go I would get a Kayfun > either of those tanks. It does come with a small learning curve however, but if you're ok with that you'll never have to buy anymore heads and the flavor when paired with a Provari is amazing.

 

[porkchopbun]

OK gonna put in the Order today !
Thanks everyone for all your great input !!
Last question:
Aspire Nautilus or Kanger Protank 3 ?

No to PT3....
Pick one of these Aspire Nautilus, Kanger Aerotank mini/mega, or the Aspire Nautilus Mini...

Any if you want to rebuild coils, get Kayfun lite v2 plus..with bigger air hole verison..

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

Whats the difference between an ego-c twist and a provari? What about a vision spinner? I know the ego and vision are cheaper and the ego pulses at a lower wattage, how will that affect the vape? I'm new to all this and have an ego-c twist and ordering a backup vision spinner because I found it for $10, but like the sound of this provari to upgrade to some day.

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