Diluting Absolute?

[locke2121]

I just got a 1.5 ml bottle of tobacco absolute from Perfumer's apprentice. I know that I can heat up PG and mix it with this if I take my time (I prefer not to use alcohol) but what is a good ratio? Some places say 1:100 with alcohol, but I also read two drops per 5 ml of PG on others.

So, suggestions lol?

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

The place I purchased mine suggested one drop per 5ml alcohol, then use that as a flav in your juice. I would think the ratio would be the same...IF you can get it to disolve in pg

 

[locke2121]

I should be able to. My vape o' choice is Minnesota Menthol and I save the dark brown glass bottles. Just put my PG in the microwave for about 10 seconds and it should just dissolve away.

 

[pnc81498]

Something about i microwave my grama said them there ultra rays are gonna kill you.... So i always use water cooler hot water in a cup and put bottle inside to heat.

 

[Nunnster]

I am wired with the microwave...I read a report on how the popcorn is gona kill us all so I tend not to use it lol. Go figure I was more worried about the microwave then analogs.

 

[locke2121]

Wow...15ml of PG and about 6 drops of absolute. 10 seconds in the microwave and ALOT of shaking later...smells like fresh-cured baccy leaves...and being from Tennessee I know my tobacco!

 

[pnc81498]

O no not the micro wave!! hope you didnt make popcorn also Glad it worked out.

 

[locke2121]

Hey...if I don't eat the popcorn, I'll stop glowing at night and start stumbling over furniture!!

 

[Momster]

Thanks for this thread! I'm expecting a large flavoring order to get here any day now, and I ordered Tobacco Absolute and was wondering the best way to dilute/process to get it to play nicely with PG/VG.

 

[symphynity]

Thanks for this thread! I'm expecting a large flavoring order to get here any day now, and I ordered Tobacco Absolute and was wondering the best way to dilute/process to get it to play nicely with PG/VG.

Then ignore all of the advice given above. Tobacco Absolute has a very distinctive flavour , and is extremely strong.
What you will receive is a tar like substance. which you WILL need to cut .A lot.
You can use either Alcohol , or PG .

Or a combination of the above.

You DO NOT want to vape it on its own.

Something else you need to know , it is virtually impossible to replicate the taste of burning vegetable matter. You may , however , by careful additions of certain flavours and concentrates , produce a liquid that " resembles" a particular tobacco flavour.

As for dilutions , I would suggest 2 drops of the raw TA diluted with a mixture of 4 ml of 80/20 PG/VG , in a 5 ml bottle.

Then , use this dilution as an additive to enhance a tobacco flavour. IE , 1 or 2 drops to your mix.

 

[Momster]

Then ignore all of the advice given above. Tobacco Absolute has a very distinctive flavour , and is extremely strong.
What you will receive is a tar like substance. which you WILL need to cut .A lot.
You can use either Alcohol , or PG .

Or a combination of the above.

You DO NOT want to vape it on its own.

Something else you need to know , it is virtually impossible to replicate the taste of burning vegetable matter. You may , however , by careful additions of certain flavours and concentrates , produce a liquid that " resembles" a particular tobacco flavour.

As for dilutions , I would suggest 2 drops of the raw TA diluted with a mixture of 4 ml of 80/20 PG/VG , in a 5 ml bottle.

Then , use this dilution as an additive to enhance a tobacco flavour. IE , 1 or 2 drops to your mix.

That's closer to what I was expecting, symphynity. Thanks!

 

[Lyndagayle]

I dilute 1/4 tsp. ethyl maltol crystals in 10 ml of PG. Set it in very hot water until all crystals dissolve and then add two drops of TA. Makes a perfect tobacco mixer. I always use a drop or two of this TA mixer in my tobacco flavors, especially with Virginia.

 

[symphynity]

What effect does the EM have on the TA Lynda? Does it do anything to that "grassy" note that TA has ?

 

[Momster]

This is from The Perfumer's Apprentice web site from the TA product:


This is a pure product derived from NICOTIANA TABACUM (Bulgarian)
It is nicotine-free and very strong!
Tobacco absolute is a thick liquid that is extracted from tobacco leaves. You can heat it gently to make it easier to work with. Very strong!
Here is one formula, but it helps to experiment.
2 drops Tobacco Absolute
10ml carrier (PG, VG or food grade alcohol)
1/4 teaspoon ethyl maltol


you can substitute ethyl maltol liquid or sweetener for the ethyl maltol crystals.
**new** below you can find Tobacco Absolute diluted to 50% in Food grade alcohol

 

[Lyndagayle]

What effect does the EM have on the TA Lynda? Does it do anything to that "grassy" note that TA has ?

EM sweetens and takes the edge off of harsh tasting flavors.