Diluting with PGA - Cancerous?

[HilseeJ]

This is a discussion. I genuinely want to know what YOU think.

According to the American Cancer Society, alcohol is known to cause cancers of the throat, mouth, voice box, esophagus, liver, colon, and rectum.

I have a friend of my dad's who was diagnosed with throat cancer. He was not a smoker for any time period of his life. He drank, but not at an alcoholic level nor very often. The doctor (who is ranked at #3 in the nation) concluded that the alcohol was the only suspect despite his lack of abusing it.

What do you guys think? It would seem to me that vaporizing alcohol would have even worse effects than the story I listed above, no?

Does this call using PGA as a dilutant into question?

 

[Hoosier]

Formaldehyde is recognized as a cancer causing agent. The human body produces formaldehyde and it is expelled in our breath. (Oddly, studies show that vapers exhale less formaldehyde than non-vapers.)

I make that point to note that the level of a substance is usually much more important than the substance in determining possible damage to the human body.

A large amount of PGA in juice would be about 5%. If you are a heavy vaper and consumed 10ml of juice a day, that would be 0.5ml of PGA. If you collected that amount, it would take 30 days to have enough to fill a tablespoon. I think that is a moderate amount by anyone's definition. A number of studies show that moderate consumption of alcoholic beverages actually help fight cancer and disease.

My grandfather drank at least a case of beer a day and smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day. He never had any cancer. That doesn't mean that drinking like a fish and smoking like a chimney is a good way to avoid cancer any more than your dad's friend's doctor's thought on what may have caused his cancer is relevant to a vaper. I guess we should be thankful the doctor did not decide that your dad's friend's childhood near smokers, or the exhaust leak his car had for 3 months 14 years ago, was the cause.

Anecdotal stories do not call any juice component into question for me.

What others decide is up to them.

 

[Moodyfisherman]

Formaldehyde is recognized as a cancer causing agent. The human body produces formaldehyde and it is expelled in our breath. (Oddly, studies show that vapers exhale less formaldehyde than non-vapers.)

I make that point to note that the level of a substance is usually much more important than the substance in determining possible damage to the human body.

A large amount of PGA in juice would be about 5%. If you are a heavy vaper and consumed 10ml of juice a day, that would be 0.5ml of PGA. If you collected that amount, it would take 30 days to have enough to fill a tablespoon. I think that is a moderate amount by anyone's definition. A number of studies show that moderate consumption of alcoholic beverages actually help fight cancer and disease.

My grandfather drank at least a case of beer a day and smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day. He never had any cancer. That doesn't mean that drinking like a fish and smoking like a chimney is a good way to avoid cancer any more than your dad's friend's doctor's thought on what may have caused his cancer is relevant to a vaper. I guess we should be thankful the doctor did not decide that your dad's friend's childhood near smokers, or the exhaust leak his car had for 3 months 14 years ago, was the cause.

Anecdotal stories do not call any juice component into question for me.

What others decide is up to them.

Well said....ditto...