Disovable Tables

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smc

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This is a reply from the company about what is in their product:

We appreciate your question about our dissolvable products, and we can tell you the following:


Both Ariva and Stonewall are made with 100% StarCured(R) flue-cured tobacco.
Because these products are made from tobacco, they contain naturally occuring nicotine. Each piece of Ariva contains about 1.5 milligrams of nicotine, roughly as much nicotine as would be obtained from smoking one "light" cigarette. Each piece of Stonewall contains roughly 4 milligrams of nicotine, which is about as much nicotine as is found in one small pinch of moist snuff. While Stonewall was developed to give adult users of moist snuff and chewing tobacco an alternative product, we have found that adults who smoke up to two packs of cigarettes per day are finding Stonewall more helpful to them than Ariva. There is logic to this, in that those who take in a larger amount of nicotine are looking for an alternative that matches daily nicotine intake.

The tobacco is finely milled and then compressed by machine into the hard bits, or pieces, that are then blister-packaged.

Each product contains less than one calorie-worth of a non-sugar sweetener, sucralose. It also contains natural and artificial flavorings and ingredients that are far fewer in number than what is found on general ingredient lists for cigarettes.

Since Ariva and Stonewall are the only dissolvable smokeless tobacco products in the marketplace, we understandably have not made a specific ingredient list public, as we seek to protect proprietary product information.


Hope this is helpful to you.
 

Applejackson

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It has been some time sense I have done conversions. What exactly do the manufacturers mean by 18mg - 20ml. I would not think this is 18mg per 20ml.

18mg/ml. Otherwise you'd get widely varying strengths based on bottle size. Like if you ordered 10ml of 18mg juice it would be way more concentrated than 30ml of 18mg juice. Those ratings are by ml.

As for the tablets, I'd be willing to give it a shot down the road. Wouldn't be a very expensive experiment. Worth a shot, worse comes to worse. I'll see if someone more knowledgeable about these kind of things tries it first though.
 

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18mg/ml. Otherwise you'd get widely varying strengths based on bottle size. Like if you ordered 10ml of 18mg juice it would be way more concentrated than 30ml of 18mg juice. Those ratings are by ml.

As for the tablets, I'd be willing to give it a shot down the road. Wouldn't be a very expensive experiment. Worth a shot, worse comes to worse. I'll see if someone more knowledgeable about these kind of things tries it first though.

That is what I figured. It would not make sense to suspend 18mg into various volumes. Thanks.

It seems a little risky with the whole 'proprietary product' line. But then again vaping is not burning. I am still a newb. I still think flame.
 

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I checked out a couple reviews (I couldn't find many), and people say that they don't like the natural flavor. I think you'd have to do some sort of extraction with these anyway since each tablet contains 4mg, you'd still have to put 40 tablets into 10ml just to get 16mg juice. You'd have to get the nicotine out first somehow I'd say.
 

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Ya that is quite a bit. The site I linked in my first post does sell leaf tobacco. Would be nice if there was a laymen extraction method for it. I really do not want to follow a chemical recipe without knowlege of what I am doing.... at least a couple of chem classes at a community college.

I think I need to stop reading the FDA vs.. thread. Hopefully everything will be alright. I guess there is BlipL if need be.... at least until they are no longer a blip on the radar.
 
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