Disrespectful Little Punk

[Despraci]

Not here to get into a pi$$ing contest with anyone but *I* think it's just plain ridiculous to vape while standing in line at a store.

Whether it's against the law or not - it's just disrespectful to the people around you.

Would I have said anything to the guy? Probably not.

I don't see the need to force my habit on the people around me. That's just me though....

Absolutely agree... not to mention you never know what somebody around you might be a allergic too. If vaping is aloud in a bar and people enter knowningly, that is different then some d-bag vaping in line of a grocery store and possible exposing somebody that needs to buy food to something they might allergic to.

I only vape in my house and the houses of friends that have zero problem with it. I don't even vape in the houses of those that permit me if I am running a sub-ohm coil and pushing larger then average clouds. I don't feel the need to push my habit on others.

It's call common courtesy and being respectful to those around you, and not some self center, feeling of entitlement (because it's not illegal yet!), d-bag.

 

[peraspera]

When you open a conversation by accusing someone of being disrespectful, irrespective of how justified it might be, it puts that person on the defensive and generally fills their ears full of wax. It might be more effective to point out that there would be more support for vaping if vapers are respectful about realizing that one's right to vape really ought to end with other people's noses.

 

[Ken_A]

Ok, so not starting arguments here, but what I am seeing is NOT that these idiots and cloud chasers are giving vapers a bad name, but that fellow vapers think we should lay low and not rock the boat by being obvious about vaping.

Strange. I noticed the other day that I tend to leave my PV in my car much more often than I would leave my pipe. Because I cared about what non-vapers think.... And realized that this is the attitude shared by anyone who is a victim of prejudice. I have resolved not to do that anymore. I will take my PV into the store. I will vape in the parking lot on the way. I will not vape in the store, because I don't want to, not because it is or is not against the law.

I'm getting tired of being a victim.

 

[kojul]

I've always been of the standpoint of being respectful of others when I was a smoker (walking away from kids, even outdoors; not blowing smoke in other people's direction, and apologizing if my secondhand blew into their faces; etc). So why would I change that just because I started vaping?

There is still nicotine in exhaled vapor. There are still some nasty chemicals in vapor (even though the levels are far, far below that of a cigarette). People can have PG and VG allergies. Basically, treat it like smoking and respect the people around you. I've often used the "it's not illegal" arguement before walking into a store, but I still won't vape in the store. It's not illegal, but it is disrespectful unless you ask everyone in the store if it's okay with them.

I'm glad that OP walked up and said something and here's why: Anyone that witnessed that exchange now knows that not all vapers are that blatantly disrespectful about their habit/hobby.

 

[Equilibrium]

Ok, so not starting arguments here, but what I am seeing is NOT that these idiots and cloud chasers are giving vapers a bad name, but that fellow vapers think we should lay low and not rock the boat by being obvious about vaping.

Strange. I noticed the other day that I tend to leave my PV in my car much more often than I would leave my pipe. Because I cared about what non-vapers think.... And realized that this is the attitude shared by anyone who is a victim of prejudice. I have resolved not to do that anymore. I will take my PV into the store. I will vape in the parking lot on the way. I will not vape in the store, because I don't want to, not because it is or is not against the law.

I'm getting tired of being a victim.

I don't mind being obvious about vaping, I just vape in appropriate places. The grocery store line, the line at the movies, in the theater, church, the DMV, in an elevator with other people (you get my drift).... aren't appropriate places.

And I never leave my PV in my vehicle. I always carry it inside store. I just vape before I enter and after I exit said store or establishment. About the only indoor establishments I vape at are B&M's, bars, pool halls, and a couple of restaurant/bars that I know don't mind.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I get tired of hearing how we're perceiving common courtesy as being treated like victims. This "chip on our shoulder" mentality is silly. Nobody should blow anything in anybody's space because its legal. We didn't smoke like that and we shouldn't vape like that. We shouldn't fart like that either....but the last time I checked, farting is legal.
How do common sense, common courtesy and victimization all get lumped together? Act like a responsible adult and you won't feel like a victim.

 

[bulldog63h]

I openly vape in public but I stealth it at the same time, meaning, I don't try to hide the device or the fact that I'm using it. I do however, hold my breath after to ensure there's no cloud. I've never had an issue with it. That being said, yes, I support vaping in public. I do urge discression and respect for the establishment and the people that are around.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Nobody should blow anything in anybody's space because its legal. We didn't smoke like that and we shouldn't vape like that. We shouldn't fart like that either...

Oh man! Well, 2 out of 3 isn't bad but I'll work on the farting. It's hard when you have mad skills in an area no one appreciates.

 

[tp4tissue]

This is an example of AFK-trolling.. vaping in public to get attention... he WANTS people to yell at him, then rebuke with "this is vape, not smoke"

There is a specific age group that is prone to this behavior, that is to say it's not correlated with vaping itself or nicotine use..


Nothing anyone can do about it..

It takes a certain level of maturity to distinguish positive/ negative attention... and that usually only comes with Time or if you had GREAT parents.. not all of us are that lucky..

the OP did his best, GJ..

 

[Fenway75]

This is an example of AFK-trolling.. vaping in public to get attention... he WANTS people to yell at him, then rebuke with "this is vape, not smoke"

There is a specific age group that is prone to this behavior, that is to say it's not correlated with vaping itself or nicotine use..

Nothing anyone can do about it..

It takes a certain level of maturity to distinguish positive/ negative attention... and that usually only comes with Time or if you had GREAT parents.. not all of us are that lucky..

the OP did his best, GJ..

The only part of this I disagree with is the correlation to a specific age group. We might notice it more in that group, or vaping might be more prevalent in that age group and thus more likely to be encountered, or any one of a hundred other factors leading to a false correlation.

I'm 38, and there are, sadly, d-bags in my age group. There are also older d-bags, and younger d-bags. D-baggery is an affliction that, unfortunately, does not discriminate by age, gender, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, or any other divisor. It is the ultimate in equality; any individual on earth can be a d-bag, or not.

 

[Asbestos4004]

HauntedMyst... I was addressing the average farter. If you, or anyone else, possess mad skillz in the farting arena...I say FLAUNT IT!

 

[Equilibrium]

Flaunt your flatulence. Right on!

 

[Sdh]

I didn't think nothing of a encounter at the local store yesterday. A 20 something disabled man/mentally challenged had a VV with a ce4 vaping. No one was offended. The guy left his pv at the checkout. The hired help ran to give him his pv and smiled. I don't believe this young man was seeking attention. I could be wrong. I don't vape in stores because that is my choice. However, I am not going to criticize someone who does.

The store owner is the one who should state if vaping is allowed/not allowed. I remember when doctors use to smoke inside hospitals. (Back in the 80's)

My husband has offended huge crowds with his flatulence. I think his gas is more offensive than vaping could ever be.

 

[Indege]

Pretty dumb on kids part but i think the real problem would have been if some one asked him to stop and he relied on "it's not illegal" as an excuse to contiue to vape indoors. That is when we as a communtiy have a real problem imo. Personally I don't vape in business establishments, except for my local B&M. I don't really have a problem with other people doing it. I do vape in my office and even though its my freakin office is someone would like it if i didn't do it while they are there i'd respect that and not do it.

 

[brickfollett]

I would just be plain uncomfortable vaping in a store or a mall. My Reo runs at 0.4 ohms, somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 watts on a fresh battery. I'm not shy about it outside, but I'm very conscious of wind direction and where people are, because my clouds sometimes carry like 40-50 feet.

I don't do it to show off, I do it because it satisfies me. The thought of vaping in a retail store and gathering that much attention is not appealing to me at all

 

[amolson]

Eh, I'm just old enough to remember smoking in places like grocery stores and the like. Where I live, they have ashtrays in the elevators because it's like a $25 fine to smoke in an elevator. And from what little I remember (I was very young) most people didn't. Not because of 'the children' or anything else, but because they were busy doing something else.

There's actually a lot more smoking going on now in the few indoor places/businesses left where it's allowed than there used to be. Again from what little I remember. Mostly I think because of two things, 1) the vanishing manners issue and 2) because it is so restricted. People now smoke when they can rather than because they might actually want to smoke at that time.

I think if vaping settles into being something people just do, the way smoking was 50 years ago, then it will vanish (for the most part) from grocery stores and the like again. Sure there were some who did, but most didn't.

Now vaping in the work place, that I think will skyrocket. Particularly 0 nic in businesses where you can't eat or drink at your desk because of possible crumbs or spills. If you can't eat or drink for 8 or 10 hours at a time, vaping is a very useful substitute to get by.

 

[ej1024]

vendors,juice makers,vape shops,should start educating people about what is the real purpose of vaping,instead of showing people how to cloud chase, and I think they have to look at the real focus,, WHY DO YOU WANT TO vape? When you educated customers about vaping there's a bigger chance you won't se DISRESPECTFUL PUNKS..vape on

 

[spitfirelance]

Trust me, this kid was being a punk trying to look cool. It was a blatant vape on attitude because "it's not illegal" I could see it in his eyes and that's why I chose to confront him. Hopefully coming from another vapor, he'll see what he was doing as juvenile... someday.

I need to add that he actually looked stupid vaping in a checkout line and I can only assume I would too.

 

[kojul]

vendors,juice makers,vape shops,should start educating people about what is the real purpose of vaping,instead of showing people how to cloud chase, and I think they have to look at the real focus,, WHY DO YOU WANT TO vape? When you educated customers about vaping there's a bigger chance you won't se DISRESPECTFUL PUNKS..vape on

All of the cloud chasers I know and have seen on the internet all take the stance of respecting others and most won't cloud chase in public (expect in B&Ms). I got into vaping to quit smoking, but I also like blowing huge plumes of vapor, and I see nothing wrong with getting into it for either reason, as long as you aren't an idiot in public.

 

[amolson]

Hopefully coming from another vapor, he'll see what he was doing as juvenile... someday.

Um, he WAS a juvenile! Hello! Getting all ruffled because a kid is acting like a kid is downright silly.

Might as well yell at a cat for shedding.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and annoys the pig. Besides, enough of these kids do it and eventually everyone will become numb to the shock of it and not care anymore. I mean how many people freak out about mini-skirts today and "You shouldn't wear those in public." and "You shouldn't wear those to work." or "Those are only appropriate for x people." or "You're just trying to look cool!" or "They're just acting out their frustrations." or "That's so rude. Who does she think she is? No one should be exposed to that!" or "Well, I'm polite and don't flash my legs in public." or "Women who wear mico-mini skirts are just .... ....." or "Ignore them. They just want attention." (Well, duh!)

Now I admit, I've seen some pretty inappropriate mini-skirts at work. But no one really says anything anymore. It's become the new normal. But it took a lot of young women getting pretty trashed in the process.