Disturbing - Interference with Social Media is now FDA Policy and a Pillar of the BP Business Model

[DrMA]

I recently found this FDA guidance regarding what they call "correcting misinformation" about pharmaceuticals and medical devices:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/Guidances/UCM401079.pdf

One company has been advertising services pursuing to this FDA guidance. Only days after a related scandal broke out on Wikipedia, the page was removed. Here's the cached page from Google:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...toid=2c3e3939adba7410VgnVCM10000076192ca2RCRD

All this time I was rather under the impression that Cass Sunstein's philosophy of infiltrating social media to disseminate govt propaganda was simply a thought exercise, not actual practice.

 

[Nate760]

It's been apparent for some time that Wikipedia (along with ALA, ACS, FDA, CDC, etc.) has been turned into another PR mouthpiece for the pharma industry. But now it appears as though there's a smoking gun that confirms it.

 

[Anjaffm]

Wow, this 2nd link - holy moly!

And I am well aware of, e.g., "public health" fearmongering and spreading of lies in social media. Ever seen those (insert very negative noun, plural) on Twitter? They spread their evil lies with impunity. And then whine and complain when people say "you are lying" - see related text by Clive Bates : Memo to public health grandees: vaping, vapers and you « The counterfactual

And then they go on to spread their evil lies and insults against ordinary people behind paywalls. Where those whom they insult and detest cannot see it. And where those who see it are not allowed to comment - as that cushy little lying corner is heavily moderated.

Yeah, Pharma. As Pharma is paying those shills (who have the gall to call us "shills" and "astroturf"), they are doing it all for Pharma and to promote Pharma products.

It IS interesting though that some company actually offered (in public) to do the dirty work for Big P. To falsify information. - Yeah, I know that information is falsified all the time. But to blithely offer to do this - for money - in public ... just wow!

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

 

[Nate760]

But to blithely offer to do this - for money - in public ... just wow!

Yeah, it takes a lot for me to be shocked by their antics anymore, but they succeeded in this case.

 

[DrMA]

Goes hand in hand with this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/b...et-source-for-information-on-ebola-.html?_r=1

Notice where it says: "the University of California, San Francisco, begins an elective class for fourth-year medical students that focuses on Wikipedia editing"

(BTW, the guy in the picture in that NYT article is one of the (many) ANTZ editing unsupported concerns and conflicted junk into the Wiki article on ecigs and fighting tooth and nail against any mention of unbiased and ethical science showing positive results or debunking ANTZ garbage)

 

[Nate760]

Notice where it says: "the University of California, San Francisco, begins an elective class for fourth-year medical students that focuses on Wikipedia editing"

My tax dollars at work.

 

[Uma]

Goes hand in hand with this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/b...et-source-for-information-on-ebola-.html?_r=1

Notice where it says: "the University of California, San Francisco, begins an elective class for fourth-year medical students that focuses on Wikipedia editing"

(BTW, the guy in the picture in that NYT article is one of the (many) ANTZ editing unsupported concerns and conflicted junk into the Wiki article on ecigs and fighting tooth and nail against any mention of unbiased and ethical science showing positive results or debunking ANTZ garbage)

Speaking of students .... this might be considered OT because it branches out a bit, but I find it very informative and think you all will too.
My Mistake about the Videos About the Fraudulent IPCC | Bolton Smokers Club
And furthermore. Further about the IPCC and the FCTC | Bolton Smokers Club

 

[Kent C]

Goes hand in hand with this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/b...et-source-for-information-on-ebola-.html?_r=1

Notice where it says: "the University of California, San Francisco, begins an elective class for fourth-year medical students that focuses on Wikipedia editing"

(BTW, the guy in the picture in that NYT article is one of the (many) ANTZ editing unsupported concerns and conflicted junk into the Wiki article on ecigs and fighting tooth and nail against any mention of unbiased and ethical science showing positive results or debunking ANTZ garbage)

Sunstein alive and well and what better target than wiki... ... although there are many targets. Even ECF, imo.

 

[DrMA]

I think we need to get eyes on the report referenced here: Engaging Patients Through Social Media | Reports

 

[Nate760]

Engaging Patients Through Social Media

Patients? Don't they mean customers?

 

[DrMA]

Patients? Don't they mean customers?

Everybody is a patient according to Big Pharmafia: Disease mongering and drug marketing

«the routine human condition... is increasingly being re-defined as disease...»

«It's not healthy for children or adults to sit in front of a wall of drug-company promotion every day that tells healthy people they're sick.»

Won't somebody please think of the children?!

 

[DrMA]

I found a few other interesting articles on this topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/health/research/05ghost.html
PLOS Medicine: Global Health Philanthropy and Institutional Relationships: How Should Conflicts of Interest Be Addressed?

FORCES International - News Portal

 

[DC2]

Here's another one I have in my bookmarks...
As drug industry’s influence over research grows, so does the potential for bias

 

[Mossy]

These couple of quotes are amazing................. how on earth when people are being paid by a drug company, could anybody possibly believe they are independent studies.

"Whether these ties altered the report on Avandia may be impossible for readers to know. But while sorting through the data from more than 4,000 patients, the investigators missed hints of a danger that, when fully realized four years later, would lead to Avandia’s virtual disappearance from the United States":

"A Food and Drug Administration scientist later estimated that the drug had been associated with 83,000 heart attacks and deaths"

The FDA approved this stuff in the first place.............they should be charged with murder


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[DrMA]

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"A Food and Drug Administration scientist later estimated that the drug had been associated with 83,000 heart attacks and deaths"

The FDA approved this stuff in the first place.............they should be charged with murder


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I find that govt agencies have two modes of operation: 1) pursuing regulation that follows corrupt and special interests and 2) generalized incompetence and stupidity. Basically, if their paymasters aren't pulling the stings, these apparatchiks have no idea what to do and issue random edicts just to appear busy. Either way, they should be prosecuted for corruption, gross negligence, malpractice, and attempted/murder.

 

[Anjaffm]

I find that govt agencies have two modes of operation: 1) pursuing regulation that follows corrupt and special interests and 2) generalized incompetence and stupidity. Basically, if their paymasters aren't pulling the stings, these apparatchiks have no idea what to do and issue random edicts just to appear busy. Either way, they should be prosecuted for corruption, gross negligence, malpractice, and attempted/murder.

yup.
Same with the European Union bureaucracy. And I mean: exactly the same.