DIY advice (to the new DIY'ers)

[DaMulta]

Well hmmm, I mean I have had major spills all over myself, and have never really felt the ill effects. The only time I have is vapping 60Mg, and taking maybe a dozen hits or so.

I've really thought if I don't ever quit nicotine. Which I really am thinking about it, and I'm down to around 12 thosweek. Which is crazy for myself, and I can tell I'm really low on niciotne.

Anyway I think I would just order 99% nicotine, and just mix it down to around 50Mg from the get go.

 

[nightsong]

Granted I'm new to DIY but wanted to suggest that if you take your strong nic and mix it into your base in a large enough bottle, you only have to handle the strong nic once. This also makes it really convenient to whip up a quick mix when all you have to do is measure out your base and add flavorings.

 

[zbasspro]

Granted I'm new to DIY but wanted to suggest that if you take your strong nic and mix it into your base in a large enough bottle, you only have to handle the strong nic once. This also makes it really convenient to whip up a quick mix when all you have to do is measure out your base and add flavorings.

Just cause you're new don't have anything to do with not having good ideas, and I like that one. I'm not too concerned with nic content personally, but more of simplicity and sanitation. That simplifies things. boB

 

[DLite]

TBH, I'm not sure how long it was on me or exactly how I got it on me. I was wearing nitrile gloves while working with it and I think, I possibly got it off the ecig I was using to sample what I was mixing. Sort of a cross contamination thing. Had it on my gloves, got it on the ecig, when I took my gloves off and used the ecig, then I got it on me. Also, in the defense of nicotine, I do have heart problems so that is a contributing factor in how severe the reaction was. Not everyone is going to react the same way. Just be careful when you do use it and you should be alright.

you said you used nitrile gloves ... are latex gloved like you use in the DR office not good enough to handle high nic levels??

 

[Jules22871]

you said you used nitrile gloves ... are latex gloved like you use in the DR office not good enough to handle high nic levels??

Depends on what kind of gloves your doctor uses. I personally wouldn't recommend the very thin ones. If you can still get a fingerprint thru the glove then it is too thin to keep contaminates out. The ones I buy are these

Nitrile Gloves

They come in different sizes also. Like I said, I wipe mine with a baby wipe, then go to the kitchen and wash my hands with them on. The reason I wipe with a baby wipe first is I have to use crutches to walk and I don't want to get the liquid on my crutch handles and then get it on my skin after I've taken the gloves off.

I know that the higher mg nic doesn't effect everyone the same way. If you have any kind of health issues, you need to take extra precautions. I have heart problems so I am more susceptible to the effects of the liquid. Each person is different and YMMV on the way you can handle it. My theory is better safe than sorry.

 

[Blaze]

you said you used nitrile gloves ... are latex gloved like you use in the DR office not good enough to handle high nic levels??

This is a resounding no. Nitrile gloves are designed to keep chemicals and such away from the skin, while maintaining their integrity (meaning they don't break down), whereas latex are not. Also, nitrile gloves are sturdier and thicker, therefore less susceptible to tearing/spliting.

 

[leannebug]

Hmmm, ok. I'm pretty sure I can get some LorAnns at the local Hobby Lobby. Can you give me your "rule of thumb" for using it? Ie: how do you dilute it, what general flavor strength (20%?) do you use, etc?

Also, would their other oils work the same way then? I'd like to get some clove also, but I see it's an oil. TPA's clove doesn't seem very strong so looking for something else I suppose.

Well, in my Atomic bug juice, I use Loranns Cinnamon oil, and I use about 6 drops for 6ml (along w/other flavors). First I dilute the drops in my PG based nic juice, then I add my VG. So, even tho the drop ratio is probably 1/2 of my total drops, the FLAVOR is much stronger. I don't know how to break that down, but it takes much less per ml to flavor the juice. Make sense?

I'll PM you the recipe, and you can see what I mean.

On the other oils: I know that OSDIYS has a clove drop that is not oil (I use it) but I have not tried any other LA oils. I have, however, heard of others using them. You just need to be careful that it gets diluted first, before adding any VG.

This is a resounding no. Nitrile gloves are designed to keep chemicals and such away from the skin, while maintaining their integrity (meaning they don't break down), whereas latex are not. Also, nitrile gloves are sturdier and thicker, therefore less susceptible to tearing/spliting.

Ooo! where do you get them?

 

[Blaze]

Ooo! where do you get them?

You can pick up a box at Wally world in the automotive section, or you can get them from AutoZone, Advanced Auto, O'Reiley's....pretty much any auto parts store, or Amazon.com

 

[leannebug]

thanks for the link and the info guys! I have heart issues too, so this is GOOD TO KNOW INFO!!!

 

[Blaze]

Just got to reading, and I realized where I mentioned proper PPE (personal protective equipment) in the OP, some might not realize what exactly that means, so here's a list

Proper DIY PPE:

Nitrile gloves
Disposable apron
Disposable arm sleeves (like used for painting)
Safety glasses (a face shield would be better)
Long sleeve shirt (preferably one you can throw away if needs be)
Pants (preferably a pair you can throw away if needs be)
DIY surface shield (something like a plastic garbage bag)
A bottle of premixed Dawn and water (for fast cleanup of skin if necessary)

I know that may sound extreme, but take into account what your dealing with, and then it sounds less extreme and more reasonable

 

[leannebug]

Blaze: do you just do this with the 100mg nic?

I usually use >50, because I have kids and pets and want to be safe, so I'm a wee bit nervous w/the 100. Normally, I make up some 25mg or 36mg (when I'm alone and clean real well, etc etc).. then use from THOSE bottles to mix with.
Now I have several bottles of the 100

 

[Blaze]

Blaze: do you just do this with the 100mg nic?

I usually use >50, because I have kids and pets and want to be safe, so I'm a wee bit nervous w/the 100. Normally, I make up some 25mg or 36mg (when I'm alone and clean real well, etc etc).. then use from THOSE bottles to mix with.
Now I have several bottles of the 100

I tend to use all that with anything above 36mg. But that's only because I know I vape anything less than 36mg straight w/o "cutting" so my body can handle a small spill of it on my skin with quick cleanup (the mixed bottle of Dawn and water was a great idea, but can't remember who posted it ), therefore when dealing with 36mg and lower, I usually only rely on the gloves, but I stress that's JUST me, and because I know my body's tolerances, and must be stressed that's ONLY dealing with small quantities (10ml or less, anything more and I get suited up )

Also the point was posted: when mixing a higher strength to a lower strength, do it all at once. That way, you've only got to take precautions like these every once it a great while.

 

[redgirl]

I was just reading this thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/108500-halo-freedom-smooth-torque-recipes.html

And if any of you like Halo stuff, these flavor concentrates from TW are exactly the same as Halo flavors. I personally don't like any Halo tobaccos. Just thought it might be useful if you wanna make your own for cheaper than Halo:




TW patriot Tobacco Americano = Halo Torque56
TW patriot M/Borough = Halo Freedom
TW patriot Kamel = Smooth8

 

[Adja]

If anyone is looking for Nitrile gloves, I noticed that they have them at Home Depot. They are $5 for 10 gloves (5 pair).

 

[Jules22871]

Walmart has the Nitrile gloves for $15 for a box of 100. You can get them shipped to your home for .97 right now.

Walmart.com: Safeskin Purple Nitrile Powder-Free Exam Gloves, Small: Home Medical

 

[Bahnzo]

Just curious if there are any issues with storing 100mg juice in plastic bottles? I got 60ml today and want to break it down into some smaller bottles to make it easier to handle, but I'm unsure if this high concentrate of nic causes any issues with plastic.

Thanks.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I keep mine in plastic bottles , so far no problem for me.

My #1 DIY Rule : Always begin with a small bottle.

There's nothing worse than making a 30ml bottle of juice that tastes like dirty socks.

 

[kushka]

One thing I want to point out - is that nicotine dissipates very quickly - you do not have to worry that if you spill some and a child may touch the surface a half hour later and pick up some residue and be poisoned.

I know this because in a prior lifetime (were talking '70) - I was an organic farmer. One of the few pesticides allowed in organic farming is 40 percent nicotine sulfate concentrate. The reason organic farmers are allowed used it is that it dissipates so rapidly - you would spray it and it would kill bugs by the drove, but a half of an hour after it had completely dried off you could eat the plant without any trace of nicotine. (to be completely honest here - we would usually wait a day before eating - but that was being very over cautious according to other farmers I knew)

So while it is wet in it's sealed bottle - it is poisonous - but once its dried on the surface there is no nicotine left. So please don't worry about touching your kids after handling even 100mg per ml liquid - mine ate from our gardens after much more concentrated spraying then you will ever see again in the US (I say that because our nanny government disallowed the sale of concentrated nicotine in the US in the '90's - though I believe most of the world still uses it - I am pretty sure England still does). Some organic farmers here make there own by soaking tobacco for a few days - but it is no where near concentrated as it use to be.

 

[Iwannaquit4good]

I am grateful to have got the chance to read this thread! I have been filling up a DIY cart for weeks now. I then chicken out eck. Believing I won't get the ratio of stuff correct. I finally eased that on research. Now I read this and first panicked eck. Then the great advice made me feel a lot better. Thx everyone for the tips and safety tips!

 

[Lorizgal]

I keep mine in plastic bottles , so far no problem for me.

My #1 DIY Rule : Always begin with a small bottle.

There's nothing worse than making a 30ml bottle of juice that tastes like dirty socks.

Is that just dirty socks, I made a bottle that smelled like my daughters socks after she played a double header basketball game and oh my gosh it was badROFL