HI hi. Can anyone point me in the direction of chemistry behind concentrates. How do they do it? Is there specific concentrates I can safely make at home? And why are those safe compared to others?
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Hi and welcome!
The jury is still out on how "safe" flavor concentrates are in general. What we do know is that some/most buttery and custard flavors contain diketones(diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin). There is a far smaller presence of diketones in e-liquid than in cigarette smoke.
When it comes down to it, vaping is by no means a healthy endeavor, your lungs are meant to inhale air, not vapor or smoke. I believe that vaping is far safer than smoking and when it comes to flavorings I dont currently believe that there are anywhere near the amount of toxic chemicals in my ejuice as there were in every single cigarette I ever smoked. Thats the choice I made, but if you're concerned about the flavorings in eliquids your best bet would be to vape plain liquids with nicotine(no flavorings just PG and VG and nic) or to not vape at all and do your best to quit smoking cold turkey.
The jury is still out on how "safe" flavor concentrates are in general. What we do know is that some/most buttery and custard flavors contain diketones(diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin). There is a far smaller presence of diketones in e-liquid than in cigarette smoke.
When it comes down to it, vaping is by no means a healthy endeavor, your lungs are meant to inhale air, not vapor or smoke. I believe that vaping is far safer than smoking and when it comes to flavorings I dont currently believe that there are anywhere near the amount of toxic chemicals in my ejuice as there were in every single cigarette I ever smoked. Thats the choice I made, but if you're concerned about the flavorings in eliquids your best bet would be to vape plain liquids with nicotine(no flavorings just PG and VG and nic) or to not vape at all and do your best to quit smoking cold turkey.
Hi VapeChe & welcome
Not many people get into making their own concentrates and even fewer for vaping purposes. Flavor extractions normally require some sort of solvent chemical, a filtering method usually to a micron level, and then separating the flavor concentrate from the solvent. Alcohol is probably the most commonly used solvent but things like butane, methane, etc are also used. It can be a complicated process and involve chemicals that are not conducive to being ingested let alone breathed. I think the most common home extracts for vaping are those from tobacco. Look up how to make flavor concentrates on Google and you will get lots of responses.
I do not recommend DIY of flavors.
1. You can get a lot of sugars in your juice, so you'll gun your coil in no time.
2. You never know what are you getting in your vape. "Organic" in not synonym for "safe". With some luck one can obtain organic poisons...
1. You can get a lot of sugars in your juice, so you'll gun your coil in no time.
2. You never know what are you getting in your vape. "Organic" in not synonym for "safe". With some luck one can obtain organic poisons...
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Really the only homemade concentrates or extract is vanilla from whole beans, coffee and NETs, naturally extracted tobacco from either tobac leaves or good cigars. I wouldn't venture into making your own concentrates just from the unknowns that can be in the finished product like oils that shouldn't be vaped. I did make a NET from some broken cigars I bought and it turned out OK for my first time but for the money spent on cigars, PG and time IMO its not worth it for the amount you get, granted the right leaf tobacco NET will taste better but thats a opinion since everybody has different tastes and likes.
Throw your fruit of choice in the bathtub, add sugar, then point a space heater at concoction. After a few weeks filter mush from juice. No in all seriousness I would never try to make my own flavorings, too many things could go wrong and as stated before, you could end up with poison. Leave it to the labs.
Welcome and glad you joined. Probably no, unless you can mimic near clean room (antiseptic) conditions, and even then would not be worth it to me.
On the positive note: I once made lemon balm juice. Just crushed leaves, kept them in PG for a month. Was not bad, but coils did not like it at all. Sugar.
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