DIY field notes | venturing into the dark side

[vapero]

today I received my first DIY vapemail and I will be venturing into the dark side!



This thread is going to be my field notes, recipes, mistakes and everything trough my DIY journey. Feel free to comment, suggest or contribute a bit. (from a noob POV)


this is what I got.

Gear and base:

75mg-NIC 75 mg Flavorless USP Nicotine Liquid (VZ)
USP-VG-250ml VG (250ml) - USP Grade Vegetable Glycerin (VZ)
Propylene Glycol (PG)-32oz (TFA)
4 10ML LDPE Soft Empty Bottle with Child proof cap (VZ)
Pyrex Cylinders - 10ml Pyrex Measuring Cylinders (VZ)
3 1ML Pipettes (free from TFA)

Flavors:
vapingzone
Real Cig-Flavor Real Cig Super Concentrated Flavor
Virginia Flu Cured tobacco-Flavor Virginia Flu Cured tobacco Super Concentrated Flavor
Cream-Flavor Cream Super Concentrated Flavor
Vanilla-Flavor Vanilla Super Concentrated Flavor
Black Cigar-Flavor Black Cigar Super Concentrated Flavor
Caramel-Flavor Caramel Super Concentrated Flavor
Parliament-Flavor Parliament Super Concentrated Flavor
SC Gourmet Irish Cream VZ-SC Gourmet Irish Cream Flavoring

The Flavor Apprentice
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% (PG)-15ml

Brown Sugar Extra-4ml

Cotton Candy Flavor-15ml

English Toffee Flavor-4ml

Graham Cracker Flavor-4ml

RY4 Double Flavor-1 oz

 

[vapero]

OK here we go..
My first to batches go like this
I wanted to try the Realcig from vapingzone plain so i made a 5ml batch

RealCig 24mg 65PG/35VG5ml

Nicotine eJuice 1.6ml 74 Drops 32%
Target PG65% 3.19ml 147 Drops 63.8%
Target VG35% 0.09ml 4 Drops 1.8%
Water/Vodka/PGA 0ml 0 Drops 0%
rela cig 0.125ml 6 Drops 2.5%

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:Just a warm bath
notes:the mixture looks almost clear but it does smell
Taste: nice taste a bit (just a little little bit) floral but good, not perfumey at all

I was really hopping to start with a tribeca recipe that I've read here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dom-smooth-torque-recipes-32.html#post7794252.

Tribeca? 24mg 65PG/35VG5ml

Nicotine eJuice 1.6ml 32 Drops 32%
Target PG68% 2.95ml 59 Drops 59%
Target VG32% 0ml 0 Drops 0%
Water/Vodka/PGA 0ml 0 Drops 0%
ry4 double 0.4ml 8 Drops 8%
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% (PG)0.05ml 1 Drops 1%

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:Just a warm bath
notes:the mixture looks absolutely clear but it does smell good
Taste: the flavor is a bit muted but good. Probably will try again with a larger batch 7ml to cut down the AP a bit. I'll let it steep for a while but the color is making me think I somehow messed up the percentages (but I don't think so)

Overall notes:It is a bit hard to work with my nic base being a100%VG, it is really syrupy , maybe I will nuke it next time

 

[Calivapr123]

Great!

May I suggest: making at least 10ml batch and using 1, 3, 5 and 10ml Syringes, as they will be far more accurate than the drops, if you want to fine tune things. Also for the Tribeca, I did mine with 10% DRY4 and 1% AP, tastes almost the same, as I have vaped the real Tribeca now for a month (2 30ml bottles). I will try to add a little Caramel and Vanilla, about 1% each and see what will happen. I also steep with Hot Water in Thermos (3 cycles) and it gets better as the days go by. Good luck!

 

[mecocina]

Great journal vapero. I do 6ml test batches and that works for me. I usually use 36mg nic 50/50 and use mls for measurement.

 

[FACE MEAT]

TFA's RY4 Double is so damn good. Add a bit of the graham cracker and a dash of AP and you'll be in vaping nirvana.

Keep the notes coming. I love this stuff.

 

[vapero]

Great!

May I suggest: making at least 10ml batch and using 1, 3, 5 and 10ml Syringes, as they will be far more accurate than the drops, if you want to fine tune things. Also for the Tribeca, I did mine with 10% DRY4 and 1% AP, tastes almost the same, as I have vaped the real Tribeca now for a month (2 30ml bottles). I will try to add a little Caramel and Vanilla, about 1% each and see what will happen. I also steep with Hot Water in Thermos (3 cycles) and it gets better as the days go by. Good luck!

after just a day my DIY hardware is inadequate,
the measuring cylinders Pyrex Measuring Cylinders - E Cig : Best Ejuice | Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes are hard to draind out completely so I think my recipe and percentages are not that acurate (I do mix them well but really hard to get everything out of there. so I made a 10ml batch of just the base and split it into two bottles (my thinking, the larger the amount I make the less residue that I loose.

Great journal vapero. I do 6ml test batches and that works for me. I usually use 36mg nic 50/50 and use mls for measurement.

I'm working with 75mg directly seems to work for my, it is easy that way

TFA's RY4 Double is so damn good. Add a bit of the graham cracker and a dash of AP and you'll be in vaping nirvana.

Keep the notes coming. I love this stuff.

Liked the sound of that so I added 2drops of brown sugar and 2 drops of graham cracker. It does get some depth that i liked!

 

[vapero]

RealCig #2 24mg 69PG/31VG 5ml

Nicotine eJuice 1.47ml 29 Drops 29.4%
Target PG69% 3.22ml 64 Drops 64.4%
Target VG31% 0.03ml 1 Drops 0.6%
RealCig VZ SC 0.125ml 2 Drops 2.5%
Brown Sugar TFA 0.05ml 1 Drops 1%
Graham Cracker TFA 0.05ml 1 Drops 1%
Apple Cider Vinegar 0.05ml 1 Drops 1%

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:Just a warm bath
notes: great throat hit and plenty of flavor
Taste: much better than Real cig 1 i think the ACV did its magic. there is a really faint unsweet milk candy undertone (amazing)

WOW! this is definetely is a ADV!!!!!

 

[vapero]

Today I ran into another problem, I didn't order enough empty bottles, I'll be using a shot glass for today and tomorrow I'll stock up on those

 

[paddymx]

Today I ran into another problem, I didn't order enough empty bottles, I'll be using a shot glass for today and tomorrow I'll stock up on those

Great post. Try these guys out : Specialty Bottle - About Us

Glass bottles are the best because the flavorings don't leach and are fast and easy to clean. Most come with fiber caps unless you request "poly" caps over the phone. In your case I would contact them(email) and see if there is a way you could handle this via email considering you are in Mexico!

 

[vapero]

Great post. Try these guys out : Specialty Bottle - About Us

Glass bottles are the best because the flavorings don't leach and are fast and easy to clean. Most come with fiber caps unless you request "poly" caps over the phone. In your case I would contact them(email) and see if there is a way you could handle this via email considering you are in Mexico!

Thanks for the suggestion but I have quite a bit of places to get them here w/o needing to wait for them to arrive, I'll be picking them up this morning.
For now I'm going to go with the plastic ones as I'm just making 3-5ml batches to try to get my hands wet before committing for a bigger bottle.
the prices here are good eg. 15-19 cents a bottle from 10ml to 30ml

 

[michaelsil1]

My DIY first rule of thumb buy more bottles than you think you need!

Second paint your syringes with clear fingernail polish!!

 

[vapero]

Virginia Flue Cured-RY4 22mg 70PG/30VG 3ml

Nicotine eJuice 0.88ml 29.33%
Target PG70% 1.99ml 66.33%
Target VG30% 0.02ml 0.67%
Water/Vodka/PGA 0ml 0%
VZ VFC 0.045ml 2 Drops 1.5%
VZ Caramel 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
VZ Cream 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
VZ Vanilla 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
Apple Cider Vinegar 0.05ml 1 Drops 1%

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:let it sit overnight in a shotglass (uncapped)
notes: great throat hit and plenty of flavor
Taste: great taste, it feels to me to be in the same ballpark as HHV's serendipity,don't get me wrong, it's in no way close to a clone, but shares the same type of herbal taste and a few notes of cocoa but mellower (specially after a few continuous vapes, just like serendipity does)
Smell: this is kind of odd If I smell the liquid it reminds me of a brown cereal (normal cheerios or the boring ones in the lucky charms) after they have been in the bowl moistened up by the milk.

 

[paddymx]

Virginia Fire Cured-RY4 22mg 70PG/30VG 3ml

Nicotine eJuice 0.88ml 29.33%
Target PG70% 1.99ml 66.33%
Target VG30% 0.02ml 0.67%
Water/Vodka/PGA 0ml 0%
VZ VFC 0.045ml 2 Drops 1.5%
VZ Caramel 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
VZ Cream 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
VZ Vanilla 0.021ml 1 Drops 0.7%
Apple Cider Vinegar 0.05ml 1 Drops 1%

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:let it sit overnight in a shotglass (uncapped)
notes: great throat hit and plenty of flavor
Taste: great taste, it feels to me to be in the same ballpark as HHV's serendipity,don't get me wrong, it's in no way close to a clone, but shares the same type of herbal taste and a few notes of cocoa but mellower (specially after a few continuous vapes, just like serendipity does)
Smell: this is kind of odd If I smell the liquid it reminds me of a brown cereal (normal cheerios or the boring ones in the lucky charms) after they have been in the bowl moistened up by the milk.

Is this correct?
Flue Cured Concentrated Hangsen Flavor VZ
Caramel Concentrated Flavor VZ
Cream Super Concentrated Flavor VZ
Vanilla Super Concentrated Flavor VZ

 

[vapero]

the flue cured is from vapingzone brand I edited my post to make it right
Virginia Flu Cured Tobacco Super Concentrated Flavor | Alcohol Based Flavoring - E Cig : Best Ejuice | Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes

 

[vapero]

Popcorn Tobacco 22mg 68PG/32VG 10ml

Nicotine eJuice 2.93ml 29.3%
Target PG68% 6.22mls 62.2%
Target VG32% 0.12ml 1.2%
VZ Real Cig 0.2ml 9 Drops 2%
VZ Caramel 0.06ml 3 Drops 0.6%
TFA Cotton Candy 0.3ml 3%
0.07ml 3 Drops 0.7% (error)
0.1ml 5 Drops 1% (error)

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:2 4 second nukes in microwave
notes: I messed up by not clearing the bold fields above so ended up with 1.7 percent less of liquid, this probably altered the overall percentages on everithing and the VZ caramel is giving me a overall popcorn taste, I'll steep this and hope the popcorn takes a back seat here and turns into a caramel type.
Taste: I'm not sure about this one. I'll let time be the judge.
Smell:burnt popcorn

 

[vapero]

Romeo y Julieta 22mg 70PG/30VG 1ml

Nicotine eJuice 0.29ml 13 Drops 29%
Target PG70% 0.6ml 28 Drops 60%
Target VG30% 0.01ml 0 Drops 1%
Romeo & Julieta NET from cuban cigar 0.1ml 5 Drops 10%*

sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time:non
notes: Almost clear I tought it will be darker
Taste: it has a clean taste, it does taste like the original smell of the cigar but not really flavorful, still a pleasant vape. I'll definetly try 15 - 20% next time
extraction method: This is my first try to make a net.
1 I cut the cigar in small pieces
2 added enough pg to cover everything and a bit more
3 nuked 2 times it for 4 seconds.
4 macerated a bit more
5 poured all in a 30ml bottle.
6 placed a bit of cotton on the drip nose of the bottle
6 squeezed
7 squeezed and squeezed (I could only get 3-5 drops per squeeze as with the cotton and tobacco were blocking the way)
8 let it rest for 3 hours caps off

 

[vapero]

virginia fire cured vanilla 22mg 50PG/50VG 10ml

Nicotine eJuice 2.93ml 135 Drops 29.3%
Target PG50% 4.7ml 216 Drops 47%
Target VG50% 2.07ml 95 Drops 20.7%
VZ VFC 0.22ml 10 Drops 2.2%
VZ Vanilla 0.04ml 2 Drops 0.4%
AP 0.04ml 2 Drops 0.4%


sampling method:Kanger Evod (my new zmax v3 snapped my phoenix rba coils)
steeping time:2 4 second nukes in microwave
notes: smooth unsweetened vanilla nutty tobacco
Taste:Great taste! the vanilla took the edge of the VFC (I really love the edge but so at first was disaponted but it is a great smooth flavor that's been growing on me since vaping it for a day. the AP gives this juice a slight 555 nutty profile.
Smell:a bit bakery but not sweet

 

[vapero]

The pyrex beaker ... well as the pipettes turned out to be a hassle As the pipettes didn't measure correctly and the beaker was keeping a lot of e liquid from getting into the bottle so loosing a good percentage there.
I found a technique that has work great for me, just syringes and the final bottle..
I use:
2 1ml syringes to measure the flavorings
1 3ml syringe to measure the nic base as I usually put 2.93ml
1 5ml syringe to measure the remaining PG or VG for my 4.7ml
the small pipettes I use to add AP or ACV but still not sure if the drops are right

no more mess nor leftovers from the beaker, just pour into the bottle and nuke or shake

 

[vapero]

Irish Cream Tobacco 22mg 50PG/50VG 5ml

Nicotine eJuice 1.47ml 53 Drops 29.4%
Target PG50% 2.34ml 84 Drops 46.8%
Target VG50% 1.03ml 37 Drops 20.6%
VZ VFC 0.11ml 4 Drops 2.2%
VZ Vanilla 0.02ml 1 Drops 0.4%
AP 0.015ml 1 Drops 0.3%
VZ Irish Cream 0.02ml 1 Drops 0.4%


sampling method:Hebel V3 Rebuildable Atomizer (Phoenix V3 Rebuildable)
steeping time: none
notes: The Irish Cream is really overpowering the tobacco, it is a great dessert vape but was looking for a more tobacco flavor, definetly a keeper tough. Next time I will pre-dilute this flavor or do bigger bottles (it's hard to cut a drop in half!)
Taste: smooth sweet REAL Irish cream with hints of tobacco I'm getting just a little bit of menthol in the taste
Smell: just like a freshly served Bailey's on the rocks

 

[Iffy]

The pyrex beaker ... well as the pipettes turned out to be a hassle

Calivapr123 tried to warn ya!

May I suggest: making at least 10ml batch and using 1, 3, 5 and 10ml Syringes...