Diy juice

[Completely Average]

Also excellent points about a tidy work area, and having only one thing open at a time, then capping it and moving it aside when you're done with it; a further point would be, go down your recipe in order as printed, to reduce potential confusion about what you've added -- hence the moving-aside of the flavors as you finish with them.

Obviously everyone has their own personal preference on order. Personally I always start with the nic base, then add the flavorings, then the VG, and last of all the PG. I follow this order partially because in my mind the flavors and nic are easier to mix when they're at the bottom and you pour the VG and PG on top of them. I don't know if there is really any truth to it, but it's what I do.

I also line things up in order before I start, and move them to the other side of the table after I've used each ingredient. That way I know exactly what I've already used.

Also, be sure that all the tools you need are available to hand, and any recipe items that are pre-mixed (such as ethyl maltol, though there are others) are already mixed, fully dissolved, and ready to use, before starting on the recipe; it saves a lot of confusion and potential mishaps.

Andria

Agreed.

And always remember to give your nic base and flavorings a good shaking before you use them. Both the nic base and flavorings will settle when left on the shelf so be sure to shake them up and get them mixed them really well before using them.

 

[VNeil]

Nonsense.

100mg juice has 100mg per ml. A single drop is about 5% of a ml, so a single drop will only contain 5mg of nicotine. Now, in order for all of that nicotine to get into your system you would have to let that drop sit there on your skin until it dried. You'll get a bigger dose of nicotine from getting a single drop of 24mg juice in your mouth from a spitting clearo than you will from getting a couple of drops of 100mg nic base on your skin.

If you happen to get a drop or even a couple of drops on your skin and wipe it off with a damp cloth or paper towel sometime within the next minute or two you won't notice a thing. It's no where near enough to make you sick. Drinking a ml or two would certainly make you sick, but who is dumb enough to drink a full ml or more of nic base?



Can't argue with being clean. Before, during, and after. Keep a damp cloth or damp paper towel handy and wipe up any leaks or spills as soon as they happen. Keep your mixing container right next to the ingredients that you're working with so you don't have to move a bottle or syringe more than an inch or two between containers. Only open a container when you're ready to use it and immediately seal it when your done. Only work with one ingredient at a time and seal and set aside one ingredient before you move to the next ingredient. It's easy to minimize accidents and risks by simply spending a few extra seconds while preparing and mixing.

I also keep a couple of paper towels next to where I'm mixing and set each syringe on top of it when I'm finished with that syringe. I use a clean syringe for each ingredient and never put the same syringe into two different bottles. That prevents cross contamination and also minimizes mess and cleanup. Once I'm done I can simply take all of the syringes wrapped in the paper towels to be cleaned and don't leave any mess behind on the table where I was mixing.

Thanks for articulating a little reasonableness here. Nic is not water but nor is it arsenic, but you wouldn't know that given all the nic propaganda and PC that seems to force people to extremes on this matter. Reasonable precautions are probably all that is necessary. Most people have trouble threading that needle though.

Some people report tingling or "heat" from contact with 100mg. I never have. Some report headaches or nausea from the fumes in enclosed spaces. I never have. But I may have a higher tolerance than other people. I no longer use gloves when I handle it, and I sometimes get some on my fingers from dripping bottles and whatnot.

At some point I understood my tolerance by accident and then, purelu int eh interest of science and these sometimes apocalyptic warnings, put about a ml in the palm of my hand, just in the interests of science. After a minute or so I got bored and washed off. Could have been water for all the effect it had on me. I've also dripped 50mg juice in a low power (12-14W) setup. I didn't like the harsh taste but I lived and no ER visit . (I had no adverse reactions) That was done as a result of thread here discussing 50mg vaping in something like an EVOD/eGO battery setup by a medical professional looking for medical benefits with as little vaping as possible. I didn't have an eGo setup handy so I used my dripper

Personally I would suggest wearing nitrile gloves, for anyone's first work with 100mg, for psychological comfort if nothing else, and a reasonable level of precaution. Then make a decision if you need gloves, only after you get a feel for tolerance, by accident or design. It's all just reasonable caution with no extra hype necessary.

Just one more thing, in regard to this "skin sucking up nicotine thing... if you have some zero nic PG and/or VG, or maybe just some cheap juice with a vaping level of nic (3-24mg), stick a ml on the palm of your hand, facing up, and see how long it takes to absorb. It takes a loooong time, and I doubt that our skin preferentially "leaches" nic out of that solution if it was in there.

 

[AndriaD]

Obviously everyone has their own personal preference on order. Personally I always start with the nic base, then add the flavorings, then the VG, and last of all the PG. I follow this order partially because in my mind the flavors and nic are easier to mix when they're at the bottom and you pour the VG and PG on top of them. I don't know if there is really any truth to it, but it's what I do.

I also line things up in order before I start, and move them to the other side of the table after I've used each ingredient. That way I know exactly what I've already used.



Agreed.

And always remember to give your nic base and flavorings a good shaking before you use them. Both the nic base and flavorings will settle when left on the shelf so be sure to shake them up and get them mixed them really well before using them.

Yes, more good points about the shaking up, especially the nicotine! The flavors, if you forget to shake them, you might end up with a mix that doesn't taste good, but if you don't shake the nic, it could mess up your nic level in the finished juice, which could do anything from leaving you very unsatisfied to causing nausea.

I always mix: PG; nic; VG; WTA -- then the flavors, but I use very little VG; in my recipes, the PG is always nearly half the finished volume (for my specified ratio of 85Pg/15Vg); I just want to add flavors to the base, which by the time I've finished the PG+nic+VG+WTA, is most of the contents of the bottle.

Andria

 

[AXIOM_1]

Nonsense.

100mg juice has 100mg per ml. A single drop is about 5% of a ml, so a single drop will only contain 5mg of nicotine. Now, in order for all of that nicotine to get into your system you would have to let that drop sit there on your skin until it dried. You'll get a bigger dose of nicotine from getting a single drop of 24mg juice in your mouth from a spitting clearo than you will from getting a couple of drops of 100mg nic base on your skin.

If you happen to get a drop or even a couple of drops on your skin and wipe it off with a damp cloth or paper towel sometime within the next minute or two you won't notice a thing. It's no where near enough to make you sick. Drinking a ml or two would certainly make you sick, but who is dumb enough to drink a full ml or more of nic base?



Can't argue with being clean. Before, during, and after. Keep a damp cloth or damp paper towel handy and wipe up any leaks or spills as soon as they happen. Keep your mixing container right next to the ingredients that you're working with so you don't have to move a bottle or syringe more than an inch or two between containers. Only open a container when you're ready to use it and immediately seal it when your done. Only work with one ingredient at a time and seal and set aside one ingredient before you move to the next ingredient. It's easy to minimize accidents and risks by simply spending a few extra seconds while preparing and mixing.

I also keep a couple of paper towels next to where I'm mixing and set each syringe on top of it when I'm finished with that syringe. I use a clean syringe for each ingredient and never put the same syringe into two different bottles. That prevents cross contamination and also minimizes mess and cleanup. Once I'm done I can simply take all of the syringes wrapped in the paper towels to be cleaned and don't leave any mess behind on the table where I was mixing.

Yep, Completely Average has it correct.... No worries about one drop of nicotine getting on you as the absorption through skin is too slow not too mention that one drop in itself would be very low dose. This is not liquid nitrogen or some type of corrosive acid. People get too freaked out about nicotine. I have gotten lots of nicotine on my skin (100mg) and it did absolutely nothing each time. Of course, I wiped it off right away though. You must be aware of the fact that at 100mg nicotine is very concentrated and that if you get any on your fingers, hands, arms or anywhere else, simply wash it off when you notice it. Almost every time I mix, which is almost daily, I end up getting some on my hands. With that said the place where you have to be more aware of nicotine is in your juice itself because the juice will be going straight into your body via the lungs. Be cautious and make sure you do not get too much in your ejuice.

 

[zahzoo]

I use 100nic base and put the nic into the bottle first.... if I want 25 nic I fill the bottle 25% then add what ever needed to fill the bottle up to create a 25 nic juice,if I want 40 nic.. fill the bottle to 40% with 100nic then top off with the rest of the VG and flavors

While the math may be simple this way... most bottles are not marked in graduated amounts to measure anything accurately. Not to mention, few people vape juice above 25% and 40% is pretty much unheard of these days with more efficient coils/tanks available.

If you are going to DIY juice... invest in some clearly labeled syringes and use one of the available, free e-juice calculators mentioned in this thread. While the toxicity of nicotine may be overstated to a certain degree... it's not hazard free by any means. Especially to children and animals. Safety and proper handling is always the best approach with any chemicals...

 

[VNeil]

While the math may be simple this way... most bottles are not marked in graduated amounts to measure anything accurately. Not to mention, few people vape juice above 25% and 40% is pretty much unheard of these days with more efficient coils/tanks available.

If you are going to DIY juice... invest in some clearly labeled syringes and use one of the available, free e-juice calculators mentioned in this thread. While the toxicity of nicotine may be overstated to a certain degree... it's not hazard free by any means. Especially to children and animals. Safety and proper handling is always the best approach with any chemicals...

A set of syringes, maybe 1ml, 3ml, 10ml and 30ml is a very good thing to have. Those are the sizes I have because I try if at all possible to avoid using graduated cylinders because I think syringes give a more accurate measurement. In particular for nic, the 1ml and 3ml are very important. Those syringes do very accurate measurements of small amounts. The 1ml measures to 0.01ml.

 

[Davycrockett]

Thanks for the info guys! This will help me save time for sure.