Having a flavor issue with DIY any help would be appreciated

[-Ghost-]

I just attempted my first tries at DIY. Im dont seem to be getting any flavor from my attempts. Here is what i have purchased:

24mg nic from my freedom smokes
green apple flavoring from TPA
watermelon flavoring from TPA
and im using wilton brand glycerine.

My green apple ratios:
ejuice Recipe Calculator
User Input
Nicotine Base mg/ml Target Nicotine Level mg/ml Amount to Create ml Water Added (optional) % Flavor Percent %



Recipe
ingredient ml

PG or VG with nicotine 3.3 ml

PG or VG (no nicotine) 4.7 ml

Water 0.0 ml

Flavoring(s) 2.0 ml


My watermelon:

User Input
Nicotine Base mg/ml Target Nicotine Level mg/ml Amount to Create ml Water Added (optional) % Flavor Percent %



Recipe
ingredient ml

PG or VG with nicotine 1.7 ml

PG or VG (no nicotine) 1.8 ml

Water 0.0 ml

Flavoring(s) 1.5 ml


I really do not get any flavor from either of these. Any suggestions?

 

[dormouse]

Are you looking for flavor or aroma?

Your tongue can only sense sweet, salty, bitter, sour and umami (msg)

A green apple juice's vapor should taste a bit sweet and sour and smell like apple

People here are using 10%
Flavor Reviews

and various on the Watermelon
Flavor Reviews

VG dulls flavor and TH. Get some PG

 

[Liv2Ski]

dormouse is correct and you are most likely one of us who needs some sweetness to get the flavor to "pop". For fruit based flavors I mix in 1% TPA sweetner flavor, which is just sucralose in PG. For tobacco based juices I use Ethyl Malto and that is their cotton candy flavor (10% EM in PG). The flavor in your mixs look a little heavy but everyones tastes are different. Also are you 100% PG???? VG can mute flavor. For me the sweetspot is 80pg/20vg.

I had this same issue when I started out and found my flavors seemed flat and were missing something. I then tasted my favorite juices from the Suppliers I was buying from and they all had a "sweetness" to them. This made me realize that I gravitated to those because of the sweetness and once I added it to my DIY my juice buying days were over. I hope this helps and keep at it, once you dial it in this really is easy to do.

 

[MTV]

+1 to sucralose and EM...doesn't take much to bring the flavor out.

 

[MTV]

If you want sucralose without waiting for a package...try splenda at the store and mix with some water.

 

[dormouse]

Mrs T's Bakery sells premixed Sucralose (Splendex) and Ethyl Maltol, prediluted, already mixed together

But sweetener will change the green apple effect which should be sweet and sour, maybe more sour

 

[MTV]

yup...maltic acid for that sour counterpart.

 

[-Ghost-]

i bought some sweetener and sour from TPA, but i haven't tried to use it yet. the nic juice is 75vg 25 pg and im guessing the wilton brand glycerine is vg. and i guess i totally overlooked those reviews.... doh..

 

[-Ghost-]

i think its because im so used to using the juice from volcano i was guessing i needed to add more flavor hence the watermelon having more flavoring... oh well at least i went with a smaller batch this time. ill tone the flavor down and try adding that sweetner to round it out. i really do appreciate all the advice

 

[Liv2Ski]

No problem ghost. Try 10% on the flavor and 1% sweetner. You can always add more flavor but is harder than hell to take it out . Let us know if that does the trick. I bet it will. I was amazed at what a difference it made for me anyway. On the apple dial in the overall flavor first with 1% sweetner and about 10% flavor. Try it and if it is close then try adding the sour a drop at a time. I always mix 3ml batches when trying recipes and take notes. It sucks when you get it right and can't remeber if it was 6 drops or 8 drops etc.

 

[JohnnyElsewhere]

Tasty Vapor has a sweetener in their miscellaneous section. 15 mls for $2. Insane price that goes a long, long way.