DNA 20/30 as Compared To Provari v2.5

[Riverboat]

I don't call a chipset that can't adjust below current battery output voltage as being bullet proof. I vape at 8 watts on a kayfun. A dna 20 or 30 would not fire that until the output voltage dropped to 4.0 volts or below.

Even the Kick 2 can regulate voltage below the battery output.

I too don't get the whole "sub ohm" thing. Sub Ohming started as a necessity to raise wattage on a mechanical mod that did not have any regulation. Now it's more like how many watts can I push to a coil.....

I have no desire to belch out some huge mushroom cloud from my mouth. Didn't do it while smoking don't need to do it now. For me it's about flavor. A 2.0 ohm to 2.2 ohm coil in a Kayfun gives me tremendous flavor and adequate cloud. And it sits right in the ProVari's wheel house.
Why would I want to intentionally lower my battery life and intentionally build a sub ohm coil (especially when I don't need to) to put on a regulated mod.
Thus sub-ohming on a mod, even something like a dna 20/30 or that ridiculous 75Watt mod coming out (SuperMax) just is dumb in my opinion.

I had the chance to buy a Supermax 70 watt mod but passed.. It is made by Atisan vapor. I have had their Crowns..Lots of problems with the Crown and when you send it back not only does it cost a lot but takes weeks since it goes thru Canadian customs.. Here is the deal even though I will never use 30 watts its like having a 200mph Ferrair...You would be able to go that fast on the streets, but I like to know its there..

Not everyone wants to vape at 4.2 v or higher. ECF is not representative of mainstream vaping. Most vapers want a device that will do 3.7 v or a bit higher, have never heard of sub-ohm vaping, rebuildables, or PBusardo.
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I have done sub ohm vaping but since I always use a regulated mod (Provari, Kicked Mechanical, or now my ZNA) there is no need to use a sub ohm coil.. RDA's. they are great, but for the most part I use HH357 custom 3.0 ohm atomizers.. Im a direct dripper and prefer the small 510 form factor that the HH offers.. Provari is rock solid but it has its drawbacks--Its VV not VW..I know we can check the attys ohms and adjust voltage accordingly to give a set vape output(watts)..The problem is that an attys resistance drops with age so unless you make the proper adjustments by checking your ohms and adjusting voltage you vape will change.. I know this isn't that big of a deal but the technology has been developed to correct that problem--Variable Wattage.. Plus the fact that you can change from one atty to the next and even though they may be different ohm ratings the vape will be the same power output.. Lets talk about the Provari menu system. Yes it is easy to use but how many times have you taken a hit then another and you find your self in PU mode? That's a drawback of the 1 button system The DNA30 screen shows your attys resistance, remaining battery power, set wattage, and voltage output under load... As you can see there are lots of ways to improve upon the Provari chip as it is a outdate by todays vaping standards... I have been with Provape since the inception of the Provape1 and have always been one of their biggest supports. But lets get real its time they update their system.. Provape can still sell the Provari V2.5 but give us advanced vapors something more current....

 

[Riverboat]

Now they can!
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What kind of clone garbage are they pushing? Those are not real Kicks.. Even the specs are incorrect!!!

 

[PLANofMAN]

What kind of clone garbage are you pushing? Those are not real Kicks.. Even the specs are incorrect!!!

What gave it away? Was it the fact that one of them was variable voltage, or was it the $8.33 price tag? Garbage, hmm...428 reviews, 4.7 out of 5 stars for the VW one, and the variable voltage model just came out a week ago, no reviews for it yet...

When you say the specs are incorrect, is it the fact that the real Kick goes up to 15 watts, and this clone only goes up to 12? The 33.3 hz chip?

 

[magman007]

I noticed that the people that sub ohm seem to be the same type of people who participate in the {OTHER STUFF} culture and aim for bragging rights on being able to clear a large "bowl" of {OTHER STUFF} in one massive "milky hit"

Is it cool to blow out sub ohm cloud of smoke large enough to make San Francisco ask "What the hell was that?" Of course it is, its a cool feeling and looks awesome. That said, I dont think my co workers would appreciate it, and for daily use, I can't be bothered to tinker with everything necessary to produce those clouds.

I'm perfectly happy with my Kayfun Lite, 1.5 ohm coil at around 4v.

 

[Riverboat]

I'm perfectly happy with my Kayfun Lite, 1.5 ohm coil at around 4v.

4v x 4v / 1.5ohm =10.666 watts.. Nice vape indeed..

 

[ScandaLeX]

I noticed that the people that sub ohm seem to be the same type of people who participate in the {OTHER STUFF} culture and aim for bragging rights on being able to clear a large "bowl" of {OTHER STUFF} in one massive "milky hit"

Is it cool to blow out sub ohm cloud of smoke large enough to make San Francisco ask "What the hell was that?" Of course it is, its a cool feeling and looks awesome. That said, I dont think my co workers would appreciate it, and for daily use, I can't be bothered to tinker with everything necessary to produce those clouds.

I'm perfectly happy with my Kayfun Lite, 1.5 ohm coil at around 4v.

I like subΩ'g from time to time & blowing huge clouds. Does that make me the "same type of people who participate in the {OTHER STUFF} culture and aim for bragging rights on being able to clear a large "bowl" of {OTHER STUFF} in one massive "milky hit" .....

Just asking cause I don't smoke {OTHER STUFF} & have no one to brag to!

Sent from a BIG phone.....Galaxy Note 3

 

[EvilZoe]

You might want to some terms you used in this post. Don't want the staff on your tail.

 

[magman007]

I like subΩ'g from time to time & blowing huge clouds. Does that make me the "same type of people who participate in the {OTHER STUFF} culture and aim for bragging rights on being able to clear a large "bowl" of {OTHER STUFF} in one massive "milky hit" .....

Just asking cause I don't smoke {OTHER STUFF} & have no one to brag to!

Sent from a BIG phone.....Galaxy Note 3

Sorry if that came off wrong, I'm not trying to call cloud chasers one in the same. I'm just stating that the mind set is similar, you could compare it to car guys trying to be the fastest, or any one else with a competitive spirit.

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[sonicdsl]

You might want to some terms you used in this post. Don't want the staff on your tail.

Not very wise to quote those either!

 

[EvilZoe]

Not very wise to quote those either!

I figured you'd be in to get rid of all of them.

Didn't want you to be bored, yanno.

 

[LastRide]

I figured you'd be in to get rid of all of them.

Didn't want you to be bored, yanno.

Were you able to squeeze on a crystal on the firing button yet ?.

 

[tearose50]

There is also a fair amount of Hookah users who are going electronic and showing up on the forum(s). I think they are used to clouds and are drawn to the more cloudy vape styles.

Back to topic--the DNA20/30 vs the ProV chip. I perceived a difference on first vape with my DNA20. Same topper, same liquid. Not sure why and haven't studied every bit of science to try and figure it out. Could it be that the DNA is simply heating the coil faster? Or, maybe I just needed to clean my Provari contacts?

It would be very tough to have to choose between Provape and Evolv and I sure hope I never have to. Buy both.

 

[Riverboat]

Back to topic--the DNA20/30 vs the ProV chip. I perceived a difference on first vape with my DNA20. Same topper, same liquid. Not sure why and haven't studied every bit of science to try and figure it out. Could it be that the DNA is simply heating the coil faster? Or, maybe I just needed to clean my Provari contacts?
It would be very tough to have to choose between Provape and Evolv and I sure hope I never have to. Buy both.

No I don't think its your contacts. I noticed the same thing when using a Kick2 vs. a Provari.. Same topper/Provari set at voltage to give the same wattage as set Kick2 ( check atty ohms and did the math) Better denser vapor from Kick2.. Could be the top caps air flow-I test it with HH357"s so there is no adjustment? Now the ZNA DNA30, well every thing else I own has become obsolete... I will still hold on to my Provari-its a classic

 

[Riverboat]

One thing I need to add is-lets see how long the DNA chip holds up vs. the Provaris tried and trup bullet proof VV chip...

 

[Brandon_4078]

For what it is worth I was in your position a little while ago. This is mainly because I got into my Atomic RDA and wanted to go lower ohms with my builds. I then did a few twisted single coil builds and they were much easier to build and set up as well as they out performed regular dual coil builds of the same ohm.

I build around 2 ohms now and can't even use all of the ProVari's 15 watt limit as I use the same nicotine level as in my tanks. The clouds I get are ridiculous (more than satisfying), and the throat hit is hardcore (I am at 24mg nicotine). I think more people should not step down there nicotine when using in lieu of increasing power. I personally never have needed or wanted more power.

So, TO ME, there is not a performance reason to get a DNA mod. That's just my and my opinion.

However, I REALLY want a NES mod! That is only for aesthetic reasons though.

 

[EvilZoe]

Were you able to squeeze on a crystal on the firing button yet ?.

Haven't got the Zencote gold Mini yet...lol

 

[p.opus]

For what it is worth I was in your position a little while ago. This is mainly because I got into my Atomic RDA and wanted to go lower ohms with my builds. I then did a few twisted single coil builds and they were much easier to build and set up as well as they out performed regular dual coil builds of the same ohm.

I build around 2 ohms now and can't even use all of the ProVari's 15 watt limit as I use the same nicotine level as in my tanks. The clouds I get are ridiculous (more than satisfying), and the throat hit is hardcore (I am at 24mg nicotine). I think more people should not step down there nicotine when using in lieu of increasing power. I personally never have needed or wanted more power.

So, TO ME, there is not a performance reason to get a DNA mod. That's just my and my opinion.

However, I REALLY want a NES mod! That is only for aesthetic reasons though.

Is there really a 15 watt limit on the ProVari, or is it simply an amp limit.

1.7 ohm coil at 4.9 volts puts me over 20 watts at 3.44 amps. Is this possible or does the Provari shut her down at 15 watts regardless of what you set.

 

[Runningw235]

There is also a fair amount of Hookah users who are going electronic and showing up on the forum(s). I think they are used to clouds and are drawn to the more cloudy vape styles.

Back to topic--the DNA20/30 vs the ProV chip. I perceived a difference on first vape with my DNA20. Same topper, same liquid. Not sure why and haven't studied every bit of science to try and figure it out. Could it be that the DNA is simply heating the coil faster? Or, maybe I just needed to clean my Provari contacts?

It would be very tough to have to choose between Provape and Evolv and I sure hope I never have to. Buy both.

Okay, so after about a week vaping the Hana Mod, this is the post I can most relate to. I honestly cannot say that one is superior to the other. A little DIFFERENT, absolutely. I'd have a really tough time choosing between the two, and am glad I have both. As I said before, the real test will be how to DNA mods manage over periods of years. We already know provaris tend to last a long time.


As far as the sub-ohm thing goes, I am certainly no "cloud chaser". Anybody who wants to do that should probably have a mech or a gi2 or something anyway. However, I do prefer my coils to be around .7ish in a perfect world. Even if coil temperature is the main factor, I do tend to prefer lower (not lower than .7ish) coils per given wattage.

 

[Runningw235]

Is there really a 15 watt limit on the ProVari, or is it simply an amp limit.

1.7 ohm coil at 4.9 volts puts me over 20 watts at 3.44 amps. Is this possible or does the Provari shut her down at 15 watts regardless of what you set.

An amp limit would make more sense, I think. That's probably what it is. I could be wrong.

 

[Ozwald]

An amp limit would make more sense, I think. That's probably what it is. I could be wrong.

I believe they are both stated on the ProVape website. Don't know first hand, I don't think I've ever pushed mine to 9 watts - most everything I vape tastes best from the high 6's to the low 8's. Never had an interest in seeing if I could drain my battery faster than that.