Dna mods suck now. HELP

[Jeezus187]

I have a paranormal 167 with a dna 250 chip...its has a 6v limit so I can't really hit 167 watts cuz with my ss coil build at .2 and ohms always fluctuating ...sheesh its frustrating 5 wrap tc fused clapton is supposed to be .11 but I get
.18 .2 .22 wt4
.soo how can i hit 167 watts with a 6 v limit is there a fix on escribe ??

 

[ImThatGuy]

Ohms always fluctuating? Sounds like a build problem. Have you tried locking your resistance?

 

[Jeezus187]

Yes but the device automatically changes the ohms when autocorrecting

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I have a paranormal 167 with a dna 250 chip...its has a 6v limit so I can't really hit 167 watts cuz with my ss coil build at .2 and ohms always fluctuating ...sheesh its frustrating 5 wrap tc fused clapton is supposed to be .11 but I get
.18 .2 .22 wt4
.soo how can i hit 167 watts with a 6 v limit is there a fix on escribe ??

What watt are you vaping at now?

And why would you want to vape that high of 167 watts anyway.....have you even done that before or gotten close to it.

 

[Rossum]

how can i hit 167 watts with a 6 v limit is there a fix on escribe ??

I'm not sure I understand the problem.

Power = V^2 / R

So 5.8 volts into a 0.2 ohm load would get you 168.2 watts.

 

[ShamrockPat]

Don't use SS. You can with N80 or Kanthal. As the resistance rises with SS, you're riding along that 6.2v output limit.

 

[Jeezus187]

I'm not sure I understand the problem.

Power = V^2 / R

So 5.8 volts into a 0.2 ohm load would get you 168.2 watts.

Yep but then my mod pulls more than 5.8 past the 6v limit and resulting in ohms to high so idk wt4

 

[Jeezus187]

What watt are you vaping at now?

And why would you want to vape that high of 167 watts anyway.....have you even done that before or gotten close to it.

I've hit 167 with a kanthal build ....i like a warm vape with decent vapor production

 

[ScottP]

Your problem is not that the board sucks (they don't) it's that you are using it wrong. SS wire is usable in TC modes because the resistance DOES fluctuate as it heats up. So you are taking a wire with those properties and trying to go out to the very bleeding edge of what the board was designed to do, so of course there are going to be problems because you aren't leaving any head room for the mod to operate. Again not with the board, but with how it is being used.

Imagine driving a car down the interstate with your foot to the floorboard and the engine running at max speed. Now what are you going to do if something happens and you need to accelerate a bit more? You can't b/c you are already at max speed. Not to mention all the extra wear and tear on the engine running it like this.

It is never a good idea to run ANYTHING, not a car, not a mod, not a stereo, nothing, at max possible power continuously. You should probably be building to use around 100 - 120 watts max continuous on that. You will get better performance and longer life if you do.

Put the right build in it, and you can get as warm a vape as you want at 100-120 watts.

 

[mackman]

6V ? https://downloads.evolvapor.com/dna250.pdf

 

[ScottP]

6V ? https://downloads.evolvapor.com/dna250.pdf

Yes 6v. The Paranormal is only using 2 batteries. If you read that document you posted, those values are with 3 batteries.

 

[zoiDman]

I've hit 167 with a kanthal build ....i like a warm vape with decent vapor production

Have you tried using a Lower Mass Coil set-up?

 

[stols001]

You aren't going to hit that limit safely ever, if you have a two 18650 batty mod. The board will SUPPORT the wattage but no battery is going to safely achieve it. Not even close. It seems ridiculous to me to use that type of board unless your mod supports the 27-- series, and even then, you'd have to get really high mAh rated batteries.

As to your resistance fluctuations, if you've checked the build, well, it may be the SS, it does vary a SMALL amount at times, but it shouldn't really be enough to cause ANY difficulties in the right TCR mode. You may want to watch a youtube video or two on the device, to get more of a handle of its capabilities. Etc.

Also, I like a cool vape, but I would consider 167 watts to be a scorching vape. Use what your batteries can handle and forget the "upper limit." Either that, or get a 27-- dual mod, or a 3 battery 18650 mod.

I don't think your equipment has issues, I think it's more your EXPECTATION of what it "should" do that it literally, "can't do. Also, I think watching a few tutorials on mod and whatever tank you are using might be helpful. It's just my opinion as always.

However, it is FACT that you will not reach 167 watts with two 18650 batteries. Your board might "pretend" to do it but basically you'd be overstressing your batteries with a single puff.

I agree, if the mod doesn't do what you "want" there is an issue, but it's really marketing of those insanely higher and higher "boards" that don't advertise that achieving them is technically IMPOSSIBLE.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[ScottP]

You aren't going to hit that limit safely ever, if you have a two 18650 batty mod. The board will SUPPORT the wattage but no battery is going to safely achieve it. Not even close. It seems ridiculous to me to use that type of board unless your mod supports the 27-- series, and even then, you'd have to get really high mAh rated batteries.

As to your resistance fluctuations, if you've checked the build, well, it may be the SS, it does vary a SMALL amount at times, but it shouldn't really be enough to cause ANY difficulties in the right TCR mode. You may want to watch a youtube video or two on the device, to get more of a handle of its capabilities. Etc.

Also, I like a cool vape, but I would consider 167 watts to be a scorching vape. Use what your batteries can handle and forget the "upper limit." Either that, or get a 27-- dual mod, or a 3 battery 18650 mod.

I don't think your equipment has issues, I think it's more your EXPECTATION of what it "should" do that it literally, "can't do. Also, I think watching a few tutorials on mod and whatever tank you are using might be helpful. It's just my opinion as always.

However, it is FACT that you will not reach 167 watts with two 18650 batteries. Your board might "pretend" to do it but basically you'd be overstressing your batteries with a single puff.

I agree, if the mod doesn't do what you "want" there is an issue, but it's really marketing of those insanely higher and higher "boards" that don't advertise that achieving them is technically IMPOSSIBLE.

Best of luck,

Anna

To be fair, the board will absolutely hit those numbers, but only at the very bottom end of it's supported resistance. This is why using SS at that low of a resistance and at that high a power is problematic. SS will increase in resistance as it heats up, thereby also requiring more voltage to hit that same wattage. Since the mod was already maxed out, it doesn't have the extra voltage to give, thus the "ohms too high" issue the OP was reporting. You cannot run SS coils in wattage mode at the very max a mod can put out for this reason. Kanthal will work for this, because it was specifically designed to NOT change resistance as temp changes.

Despite the fact that it is possible to hit these numbers, I must stress again, it is NOT good for the mod or the batteries to run them at maximum limits on a continual basis. Doing so WILL reduce the life of both the mod and the batteries. This goes for ANY mod and ANY batteries, not just this one.

 

[Jeezus187]

Have you tried using a Lower Mass Coil set-up?

No but do u have a suggestion I have 22 and 24 g kanthal

 

[zoiDman]

No but do u have a suggestion I have 22 and 24 g kanthal

You could do Single Wire Coils with that 24ga Kanthal. Or maybe try some 26ga 316/316L Stainless Steel.