DNA20 - Attack of the clones

[UncleChuck]

Well, that didn't last long! DNA20 clones coming out of china evidently:

http://.........blogspot.com/2013/09/game-over-dna20-gets-cloned.html#links

The real question, what kind of frequency is this going to run at? If it's anything close to 33hz I'm going to punch china.

 

[Technonut]

The Lambo 6.0 has been out with what I suspect are the same electronics.. ElectronicStix.Com · Lambo 6.0 VV/VW Device From what I've read, it is not 33.3Hz, and has a smooth signal. Here's some test results that I saw: (I won't believe it until I actually see it on a scope) If these electronics prove reliable, it could very well be a game-changer...

 

[UncleChuck]

Hmm.. possibly. It's hard to tell from the picture, but the screen doesn't look very DNA20ish. It looks more like a vamo board to me. The screen looks a little too small, but I guess it's possible they just used a different screen.

Either way, like you said, if they did a good job on the PWM this could definitely be a game changer. There would finally be something more powerful and more flexible than the Provari, that doesn't have a rattlesnake hidden inside it. I know there is the nivel (spelling?) chip but.... is there REALLY a nivel chip? Not to mention it's price.

I'm really hoping China actually designs their own DNA20 hosts instead of just knocking off current DNA20 offerings. Mainly because I think all the current DNA20 offerings are hideous, or sub-par for something that expensive (coughOpusDcough) This first one looks to be a sigelei telescopic z-max style body, not too bad, but lets get some new material going China!

If China was smart (yes I realize I'm referring to a whole country as if it were a person) they would sell mods without any electronics in them. Just take them off the assembly line before the chip gets installed, they would be great for people who want to buy a real DNA20, as it could basically be a drop-in setup.

 

[Technonut]

The Lambo 6.0 has been out for awhile.. I'm just saying they are probably using the same electronics, now with the OLED screen like you suggested. From what I understand, L-Rider makes their own electronics for the Lambo, and are probably supplying them to other manufacturers. (Or the other manufacturers are cloning them )

We need a reviewer like PBusardo to review these on his scope...

 

[retired1]

I'm really hoping China actually designs their own DNA20 hosts instead of just knocking off current DNA20 offerings. Mainly because I think all the current DNA20 offerings are hideous, or sub-par for something that expensive (coughOpusDcough) This first one looks to be a Sigelei telescopic z-max style body, not too bad, but lets get some new material going China!

Some companies are coming out with DNA20 designs that aren't terribly bad. My biggest beef with the DNA20 chipset is there's no auto shutoff if you hold the fire button down too long. If that were to get programmed into the chipset, it would be perfect.

 

[dr g]

This looks like an improvement on the existing China VW/VV boards rather than a real DNA20 clone. Looks like it has good performance, but then again supposedly the Vamo has been capable of up to 30 watts all this time.

The DNA20's envelope is still quite a bit wider.

 

[munsterrr]

If a decent co-op shows up, i may be on this. Love my zmax v3(looks wise) and have been looking for an replacement.

 

[peterforpats]

if I could get a dna20 chip in my zmax v5 I think I would finally see the light at the end of the buying tunnel- just hope it is not a train heading straight towards me! I love the look, versatility, feel and size of the v5. a dna20 chip and it would be perfect(YMMV).

 

[twistedchild316]

Hmm.. possibly. It's hard to tell from the picture, but the screen doesn't look very DNA20ish. It looks more like a vamo board to me. The screen looks a little too small, but I guess it's possible they just used a different screen.

Either way, like you said, if they did a good job on the PWM this could definitely be a game changer. There would finally be something more powerful and more flexible than the Provari, that doesn't have a rattlesnake hidden inside it. I know there is the nivel (spelling?) chip but.... is there REALLY a nivel chip? Not to mention it's price.

I'm really hoping China actually designs their own DNA20 hosts instead of just knocking off current DNA20 offerings. Mainly because I think all the current DNA20 offerings are hideous, or sub-par for something that expensive (coughOpusDcough) This first one looks to be a Sigelei telescopic z-max style body, not too bad, but lets get some new material going China!

If China was smart (yes I realize I'm referring to a whole country as if it were a person) they would sell mods without any electronics in them. Just take them off the assembly line before the chip gets installed, they would be great for people who want to buy a real DNA20, as it could basically be a drop-in setup.

This beauty was only $125

 

[Technonut]

Looks like they're really going for it.. Looks like one of Mamu's mods:

Products-shenzhen vapetech technology co.,ltd

If the other pics are accurate, they even have a decent looking Poldiac and Caravela knock-off...

 

[Katdarling]

Let's see if they can clone this one...

 

[peterforpats]

Hmm.. possibly. It's hard to tell from the picture, but the screen doesn't look very DNA20ish. It looks more like a vamo board to me. The screen looks a little too small, but I guess it's possible they just used a different screen.

Either way, like you said, if they did a good job on the PWM this could definitely be a game changer. There would finally be something more powerful and more flexible than the Provari, that doesn't have a rattlesnake hidden inside it. I know there is the nivel (spelling?) chip but.... is there REALLY a nivel chip? Not to mention it's price.

I'm really hoping China actually designs their own DNA20 hosts instead of just knocking off current DNA20 offerings. Mainly because I think all the current DNA20 offerings are hideous, or sub-par for something that expensive (coughOpusDcough) This first one looks to be a Sigelei telescopic z-max style body, not too bad, but lets get some new material going China!

If China was smart (yes I realize I'm referring to a whole country as if it were a person) they would sell mods without any electronics in them. Just take them off the assembly line before the chip gets installed, they would be great for people who want to buy a real DNA20, as it could basically be a drop-in setup.

there are quite a few dna20 mods out there that aren't "hideous" and quite reasonably priced. I agree the opusd is not one of them.
shan mods, fazedboxmods, and mamu mods make some good looking, well built, reliable mods. some for a lot less than a provari or opusd. an e-mail and some patience and you've got yourself a nice mod that didn't come from china. of course, eventually you knew they were going up their game and build a dna20-like chip. they certainly are industrious with their billion and a half cheap labor force.....

 

[peterforpats]

Let's see if they can clone this one...

you don't think they couldn't clone a mamu ninja stealth? if they wanted to it would take them no time at all.....

 

[mamu]

Looks like they're really going for it.. Looks like one of Mamu's mods:

Products-shenzhen vapetech technology co.,ltd

LMAO

http://www.szvapetech.com/product/html/?30.html

Looks like? Both pics are MY pics and with MY Bliss RBA in the top pic that I posted in the modding forum. souless bastids.

 

[Technonut]

LMAO

DNA20(FZ20D mod-shenzhen vapetech technology co.,ltd

Looks like? Both pics are MY pics and with MY Bliss RBA in the top pic that I posted in the modding forum. souless bastids.

I'd gladly purchase one of yours over that one mamu... (however that one turns out) Regardless of cost.

 

[Thrasher]

I know there is the nivel (spelling?) chip but.... is there REALLY a nivel chip? Not to mention it's price.

huh?


the nivel chip was designed in russia. the problem was twofold. there were some supplier and manufacturing problems, as well as no american distributors. the DNA series got a foothold by being made and produced here where most of the mod makers using it happen to be. i have a nivel mod and I like it a lot, until some of the dna 20 mods become a little more refined I still think the semovar is better. It may not have the wide feature set of the 20 but the PWM is very high and clean, cant remeber ever needing 20 or more watts on a regulated mod anyways.


I would be very leary until it is proven its not a cheap copy of the screen and wattage limit.and Alibaba is probably the last place in the world to trust a product description until it is actually on the market.

I still contend that if you need to hit 20 watts on a regulated mod you dont know how to build a proper coil for it.

of all the mods I have possibly seen labeled as "game changers" i think the futura and aerovapes 30watt vw "k" are the only ones.
and none of these companies will unthrone provari until they offer service and reliability, just a new chip isnt going to do it.

 

[6pointprime]

the nivel chip was designed in russia. the problem was twofold. there were some supplier and manufacturing problems, as well as no american distributors.

Here is the website for the US distributor for the Nivel Chip:

Variable Wattage Power Regulation With A Brilliant One-Button User Interface Is Finally Available in the USA | The Nivel Chip

 

[dr g]

LMAO

[link removed]

Looks like? Both pics are MY pics and with MY Bliss RBA in the top pic that I posted in the modding forum. souless bastids.

As they say about flattery ... hope this works out to free advertising for you!

 

[grindle]

…if you need to hit 20 watts on a regulated mod you dont know how to build a proper coil for it.

That's an abysmally stupid statement.

I like dual-coils. I like both coils at 10w each. My coil-building skills are just dandy.

What is it that makes some people walk around thinking that what they want is all that anybody else could want?

 

[dr g]

I still contend that if you need to hit 20 watts on a regulated mod you dont know how to build a proper coil for it.

Ooh I missed this. I contend that if you would say something like this, you don't know enough about coil building.

You can build a coil (or atomizer, more to the point) for any wattage.