Do I need to drip for BIG juicy clouds of vapor on a provari?

[flybykite]

So the Provari is in the mail and I want a component that will deliver "The FOG" . Flavor is important as well. Right now I'm on a protank 2 and I find it kind of airy and unreliable for getting good hits. I know that different juices play a factor but I dont know what I should be looking at for a juice delivery system, coil gauge, cotton or fiber etc.
What recommendations can you make for the provari?

 

[BernieVideo]

I would like to hear what people have to say on this as well.

I have been using carto tanks on my mini Provari, great amount of vapor but I seem to be getting to a point where I am finding the flavor lacking. I may just be going through a bout of vapers tongue. Or not letting my juices steep enough.

I also have a Protank 2, it is ok but not great. Thinking of blocking half the air holes to see if it improves.

I've been poking around to see what else is out there. So far it looks like RDAs are the next step but I dunno if I want the bother of winding coils and wicks.

I think there are washable drippers available, but I have not been able to track them down.




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[BennyAdeline]

I love the Kayfun lite. I use 32 guage microcoils between 1.7-2.2 ohms. Cotton balls for the wick....great! Tons of flavor and vapor.

 

[Baditude]

My primary mod for over a year has been a Provari. My delivery device of choice is an IBTanked pyrex cartotank with a great single coil standard resistance cartomizer like an Ikenvape 510 Fusion or Platinum punched. Consistant & dependable flavor and vapor production. Baditude's Cartotank Setup Guide

I've also been getting nearly as good of results with the Innokin iClear30 clearomizers. Dual top coils and 16 wicks make a nice combination of flavor and vapor.

I've also had both great and inconsistant results with an RBA (AGA-T2). These can be rather time-consuming and fussy, and are more for those enthusiasts willing to devote a lot of time into researching how to best use these optimally. Not suggested for beginners, IMHO. I use SS mesh wick and wrap a 2.0 ohm coil for my Provari's. Information Resources for Your First RBA

Not particularly a fan of dripping atomizers unless they are on a bottom feeder box mod like my Vapage VMod-XL.

 

[happydave]

all of the massive thunder cloud producing equipment i can find is a rebuildable of some sort not necessary a dripper . lots of people have really awesome builds using the genesis style tanks. all the videos i see of people "extreme vaping" the lights are all set to hit the cloud from one side this produces the best effect.
i have had a few of my vaping buddys have tryed this setup listed below its makes more vapor than they can handle (lots of coughing). also
you wanna get your self a DVOM or digital volt and ohm meter they are like $10 and worth there weight in gold when building and trouble shooting coils

i started using the "smoktech octopus RDA mini" (they run about $6) months ago an im still enjoying it. you will see and air hole in the side of the body, out of the box the air hole is small so you need to drill it out. start with a 1/16th drill bit and if you want more air flow go up in size from there wash and scrub it well after drilling. to large of an air hole and you wont get good vapor production. i use the Octopus rda with a 1.5 ohm coil on a eGo 1000 mah USB pass-though these ego pass-though batteries can handle a 1.1 ohm coil. what i use for my coils is 32. kanthal twisted with a drill (check it out on youtube) then i take a butane torch lighter and run direct flame down the length of wire 2 times. then using 4 strands of 2 MM wick i make 3/4 wrap using my twisted kanthal. i like to use a sewing needle with the point cut off parallel with the strands of wick and just wrap the kanthal around the needle and wick then carefully remove the needle and install the coil. once you get both coils leads through the post hole i like to pull the leads really tight and screw down the posts make sure the posts are tight by using a pair of pliers to tighten them down. you can build "micro coils" this way that produce amazing flavor and vapor. its a process i know. but once you get the hang of it you can make a coil in under 10 minutes. total cost for the coil and wick is under $0.50 and each coil lasts me about 3 days (im a heavy chain vaper)

when you put that body back on after drilling your air hole out you want the air hole to line up with the coil... you should be able to see the coil though the air hole...

 

[anavidfan]

Cant beat a great basic cartomizer for performance and ease. If you havent been vaping for long, most likely its just vapers tongue. I went through that at least 3 times in the year I started. Just try out some new flavours, its a journey while your taste buds heal and adjust after smoking for so long.

THe juices I used when I first started were fine, but if I used them now, Id probably gag.

 

[seefrye]

If you don't want to go the RBA/RDA route, and the Protank isn't cutting it for you, I'd say get yourself a nice cartotank and some lower resistance cartomizers. Not my cup of tea anymore, as my IGO-L is my baby now, but I used a cartotank on my Provari for months, and as long as the cartos are properly slotted to allow adaequate juice flow, you can really rip them.

 

[mackman]

My primary mod for over a year has been a Provari. My delivery device of choice is an IBTanked pyrex cartotank with a great single coil standard resistance cartomizer like an Ikenvape 510 Fusion or Platinum punched. Consistant & dependable flavor and vapor production. Baditude's Cartotank Setup Guide

I've also been getting nearly as good of results with the Innokin iClear30 clearomizers. Dual top coils and 16 wicks make a nice combination of flavor and vapor.

I've also had both great and inconsistant results with an RBA (AGA-T2). These can be rather time-consuming and fussy, and are more for those enthusiasts willing to devote a lot of time into researching how to best use these optimally. Not suggested for beginners, IMHO. I use SS mesh wick and wrap a 2.0 ohm coil for my Provari's. Information Resources for Your First RBA

Not particularly a fan of dripping atomizers unless they are on a bottom feeder box mod like my Vapage VMod-XL.

I have to agree with Baditude. I use them all and with the right juice and settings they all work. I only vape 100% VG (my preference) and a lot of people say you can't get the full flavor from 100% VG; I disagree. On my Provari I still rotate evods, I Clears, drippers,etc. Presently in the rebuildables the best performing to me is the ZAP and the RSST. Two very different rebuildables in performance and price, but with a proper wick and coil and ohm rating plenty of vapor yet more important is the flavor of the juice.

I have to add that I had been intrigued by cartomizer tanks for a long while. I had heard about the ease and performance here on the forum. So I read all the information that Baditude has graciously put together for us and bought an inexpensive tank setup to try. I was blown away with the flavor and amount of vapor produced (if that is what is important to you). I have found them consistent in performance and convenient to travel with and at the moment they are all that I am vaping. Needless to say I have obtained a few higher quality tanks. Cartos have to many advantages to be ignored. I still enjoy my rebuildables because I like to build coils and they perform well.

If you are like most of us there is a progression before you settle on what suits you.

 

[chadsmo]

I'll save you the history of what I vaped, but it didn't take me long to vape silica ( I use cotton now though ) rebuildables 99% of the time. I just really really love them, so much more than any carto or clearo I've ever tried.

There can be a fine line between 'chasing clouds' and actually having a really great vape. Blowing big clouds is fun, but I find that flavour CAN take a hit. I've had some builds where I get great vapour and really great flavour and then some others just seem to be all about the vapour and not much else. Something to realize too, and I don't think everyone thinks about this ( I know I didn't really at first ) that the bigger your vapour production the more juice you'll use. I know it sounds stupid to say that cause it's obvious, but blowing big clouds all the time does tear through juice. You can sit down and in and in just a few minutes burn through at least 1ml sometimes 2ml.

I know some people might poo poo this, but what I'm about to say is just my opinion and the style that I've chosen to vape mostly, and by no means does it mean that you should follow suit.

I think that easiest way to get big vapour is to go dual coil and sub ohm. Right now my trident setup is sitting at .4 ohms and it's performing really really well. I will say this, if you chose to get a dual coil RDA and try some sub ohm builds on it YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. Like you really really really need to research the hell out of batteries and how they work and what resistance does to your amperage and wattage etc etc. Just please do your homework. I've seen many posts about people talking about these builds where they don't meter out any ohms and they don't know how many amps their battery is capable of, but they're like 'omg huge clouds' . All fine and well until their battery over heats and they have a really bad day. DO YOUR RESEARCH, pretty please with a cherry on top.

This isn't a 'crazy' example of giant clouds, but this setup still had great flavour and the vapour production was really good. It was just a quick video I made for a thread on another forum.

Dual 28g micro coils at .6 ohms - YouTube


The other way to get big clouds is build higher ohm micro coils (or any of the other crazy coils people are coming up with right now ) and run them on a regulated device at high voltages. This was something I was playing with today and the vapour production on it is great, and the flavour is still fantastic. It's 30g wire and about 10 wraps around the end of a really tiny screwdriver. This coil is really really small but it still puts out great vapour. But instead of being a really low resistance it's 2.5 ohms.

30g small diameter micro with cotton - YouTube


Anyways, it's late and I'm rambling, hopefully I gave you at least something to consider. Sorry for the lack of links etc to tons of info, maybe later if you need / want them.

 

[flybykite]

I'll save you the history of what I vaped, but it didn't take me long to vape silica ( I use cotton now though ) rebuildables 99% of the time. I just really really love them, so much more than any carto or clearo I've ever tried.

There can be a fine line between 'chasing clouds' and actually having a really great vape. Blowing big clouds is fun, but I find that flavour CAN take a hit. I've had some builds where I get great vapour and really great flavour and then some others just seem to be all about the vapour and not much else. Something to realize too, and I don't think everyone thinks about this ( I know I didn't really at first ) that the bigger your vapour production the more juice you'll use. I know it sounds stupid to say that cause it's obvious, but blowing big clouds all the time does tear through juice. You can sit down and in and in just a few minutes burn through at least 1ml sometimes 2ml.

I know some people might poo poo this, but what I'm about to say is just my opinion and the style that I've chosen to vape mostly, and by no means does it mean that you should follow suit.

I think that easiest way to get big vapour is to go dual coil and sub ohm. Right now my trident setup is sitting at .4 ohms and it's performing really really well. I will say this, if you chose to get a dual coil RDA and try some sub ohm builds on it YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. Like you really really really need to research the hell out of batteries and how they work and what resistance does to your amperage and wattage etc etc. Just please do your homework. I've seen many posts about people talking about these builds where they don't meter out any ohms and they don't know how many amps their battery is capable of, but they're like 'omg huge clouds' . All fine and well until their battery over heats and they have a really bad day. DO YOUR RESEARCH, pretty please with a cherry on top.

This isn't a 'crazy' example of giant clouds, but this setup still had great flavour and the vapour production was really good. It was just a quick video I made for a thread on another forum.

Dual 28g micro coils at .6 ohms - YouTube


The other way to get big clouds is build higher ohm micro coils (or any of the other crazy coils people are coming up with right now ) and run them on a regulated device at high voltages. This was something I was playing with today and the vapour production on it is great, and the flavour is still fantastic. It's 30g wire and about 10 wraps around the end of a really tiny screwdriver. This coil is really really small but it still puts out great vapour. But instead of being a really low resistance it's 2.5 ohms.

30g small diameter micro with cotton - YouTube


Anyways, it's late and I'm rambling, hopefully I gave you at least something to consider. Sorry for the lack of links etc to tons of info, maybe later if you need / want them.

Thanks Chadsmo, that was quite helpful. I'm currently in the process of doing my homework and I'll probably end up testing lots of methods. I'd love to get a good grasp on coil building. Thanks again

 

[flybykite]

I'll save you the history of what I vaped, but it didn't take me long to vape silica ( I use cotton now though ) rebuildables 99% of the time. I just really really love them, so much more than any carto or clearo I've ever tried.

There can be a fine line between 'chasing clouds' and actually having a really great vape. Blowing big clouds is fun, but I find that flavour CAN take a hit. I've had some builds where I get great vapour and really great flavour and then some others just seem to be all about the vapour and not much else. Something to realize too, and I don't think everyone thinks about this ( I know I didn't really at first ) that the bigger your vapour production the more juice you'll use. I know it sounds stupid to say that cause it's obvious, but blowing big clouds all the time does tear through juice. You can sit down and in and in just a few minutes burn through at least 1ml sometimes 2ml.

I know some people might poo poo this, but what I'm about to say is just my opinion and the style that I've chosen to vape mostly, and by no means does it mean that you should follow suit.

I think that easiest way to get big vapour is to go dual coil and sub ohm. Right now my trident setup is sitting at .4 ohms and it's performing really really well. I will say this, if you chose to get a dual coil RDA and try some sub ohm builds on it YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH. Like you really really really need to research the hell out of batteries and how they work and what resistance does to your amperage and wattage etc etc. Just please do your homework. I've seen many posts about people talking about these builds where they don't meter out any ohms and they don't know how many amps their battery is capable of, but they're like 'omg huge clouds' . All fine and well until their battery over heats and they have a really bad day. DO YOUR RESEARCH, pretty please with a cherry on top.

This isn't a 'crazy' example of giant clouds, but this setup still had great flavour and the vapour production was really good. It was just a quick video I made for a thread on another forum.

Dual 28g micro coils at .6 ohms - YouTube


The other way to get big clouds is build higher ohm micro coils (or any of the other crazy coils people are coming up with right now ) and run them on a regulated device at high voltages. This was something I was playing with today and the vapour production on it is great, and the flavour is still fantastic. It's 30g wire and about 10 wraps around the end of a really tiny screwdriver. This coil is really really small but it still puts out great vapour. But instead of being a really low resistance it's 2.5 ohms.

30g small diameter micro with cotton - YouTube


Anyways, it's late and I'm rambling, hopefully I gave you at least something to consider. Sorry for the lack of links etc to tons of info, maybe later if you need / want them.

Thanks Chadsmo, that was quite helpful. I'm currently in the process of doing my homework and I'll probably end up testing lots of methods. I'd love to get a good grasp on coil building. Thanks again

 

[chadsmo]

Thanks Chadsmo, that was quite helpful. I'm currently in the process of doing my homework and I'll probably end up testing lots of methods. I'd love to get a good grasp on coil building. Thanks again

The best way to learn how to make good coils is a ton of research and then lots of trial and error. You also really need to understand airflow and wire temperature as well as what kind of wick you're using. I was on a silica for about 6 months and then a little while back I got in to cotton and I'll never use silica again unless the atty is specifically made for it, but even then you can make cotton work. The vapour production is better, the flavour is better and the best part is the cost. I bought a bag of 300 cotton balls for $2.75 and it seems like it will last years at this rate.