Are you saying that there will be at least one vaping zombie when the zombie apocalypse comes?
Do most people ever quit vaping?
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I go back and forth from 0 nic to 6nic and I have been 4 years. I do not take it with me to all the stores, or my kids just use when I drink coffee in the morning or when we meet friends at a bar. I have time's I can go without it and times it just taste so good and after being a heavy smoker am so glad I found vaping and got out with my health . Never smelling like smoke is awesome and it's amazing how bad in stinks when I am around someone who does smoke. Its a terrible death trap smoking and since Vaping has come along we have helped a huge no. of our friends and family quit. To bad the FDA does not ban real cigarettes for they are shear poison now and in the old days were just paper and tobacco. Cigarettes today are as lethal as other drugs and very scarey to see what big tobacco company can get away with, so if you quit vaping, great for you, but if not , I think you will be a heck of alot safer vaping than you would be smoking. Good luck and Happy Vaping.
This is a good point. I've yet to see this from a vaper and I definitely don't want to.
Here it's a little tougher. I would definitely rather see somebody take up vaping than smoking, so if it's somebody that's going to do one or the other I would definitely recommend vaping. For somebody that wouldn't smoke I would generally suggest they not take up vaping either. We still don't have all the facts about long term health effects and I would be concerned, especially if they were using nic about creating addicts who would then be forced to smoking if the FDA gets their way.
A year plus later, I am using around 9mg nic and vaping much less than when I started. Sometimes I feel the need for nic but 5 minutes later it is gone.
Also getting tired of building coils, cleaning devices, charging batteries and cleaning mods. Just that hassle is helping.
Also getting tired of building coils, cleaning devices, charging batteries and cleaning mods. Just that hassle is helping.
New Years Eve 2013 will make 3 years smoke free--after OVER 45 years of smoking 1 1/2--2 packs a day.
At the age of 62--I will probably never quit vaping.
And still use 18-24 nic. --Have thought about trying some 12 nic --BUT---
Whatever it takes to stay away from my old friends (Marlboro Red 100's) SORRY Reds!!!
At the age of 62--I will probably never quit vaping.
And still use 18-24 nic. --Have thought about trying some 12 nic --BUT---
Whatever it takes to stay away from my old friends (Marlboro Red 100's) SORRY Reds!!!
*Bold emphasis mine
As long as vapers are willing to concede on point of "we still don't have all the facts," then vaping could be legislated to try ensure no one vapes for the long term. Especially, as that sort of statement almost always reads as - it's probably negative to do this long term, so don't do it at all.
Yet, if context is anti-vaper type saying this to community of vapers, we (vapers) have lots of evidence and arguments to support our use and choice. Like lots of evidence, some of which is scientific, most of which is anecdotal.
I also don't think we know exactly the long term effects of anything. Like this year, wine is good for you, but last year studies showed it was not, and next year studies will show it is not, but the year after that, it'll be shown to be good for you. And feel free to replace wine with just about every product ever produced. And while I might not be making this point in way that all will agree on, I do think it is very accurate and critical to refuting the "we don't know" type of argument put forth for eCigs. IMO, we have a very very good idea about what eCigs do to a human body, even while we are not 100% sure, and I believe we never ever will be 100% sure, for all cases of human individuals.
The addiction to nicotine thing is both debatable and deniable. As in some of us vapers are no longer convinced, if we ever were, that nicotine is one of the most highly addictive substances around. I think vast majority of people are convinced that it is, and hence not really seeing need to discuss what is established as 'fact.' And deniable because who gets to decide who is addicted to what other than the user when they get to a point of not wanting to do it anymore, but can't find an easy way to stop? Anyone who continues to do it, saying they enjoy nicotine, might not readily admit addiction, just as people with any legal, non-mind altering substance would plausibly say I enjoy this item a lot, but doesn't mean I'm addicted. More to the point, vaping addiction (other than pursuit for perfect device and perfect flavor) is nowhere near any addiction I've ever heard of or experienced. IOW, it is very very tame compared to say smoking addiction, or alcohol addiction, or even say video game addiction. It's unlikely to rob you of hours of the day or alter your behavior when confronted with questions of use.
IMO, the vaping community (speaking in huge generalizations) tends to advocate vaping as a smoking cessation product which is okay, but I think is setting up vaping for a huge fall if that is the only thing vaping community can advocate for. I see vaping, as Sottera case did, as (safe) alternative to smoking, and not intended as replacement of smoking. With alternative, it can be for whoever needs it to be, a cessation from smoking. But it also gets to be a product choice for adults who wish to enjoy it for what it is, and not for what it is not. IOW, vaping is arguably for everyone. I think vapers everywhere would fare better to accept that rather than resist it and pre determine that it is good for some people and bad for others.
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I quit vaping once before. I have hundreds of mouths to feed here and that can get pricey so vaping costs money that I could allocate to my business. Plus I don't get much enjoyment from vaping that I do other hobbies - it feels like work. It's a means to an end; an alternative to smoking. If I can go off nicotine entirely again, I will, and that'll be the end to vaping, again.
I just don't like feeling as if I'm not in control, and that's what addiction is. I didn't want to be addicted to cigarettes, why would I want the hassle of an e-cig for the rest of my life? Having to make sure batteries are charged, constantly buying juice and everything else needed, having to always know where my e-cig is. I just don't want that kind of hassle and enslavement in my life if I can avoid it. If I can find a way to calm my nerves and the other health perks I get now from nicotine. Without nicotine, I iust can't imagine any reason to vape.
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I just don't like feeling as if I'm not in control, and that's what addiction is. I didn't want to be addicted to cigarettes, why would I want the hassle of an e-cig for the rest of my life? Having to make sure batteries are charged, constantly buying juice and everything else needed, having to always know where my e-cig is. I just don't want that kind of hassle and enslavement in my life if I can avoid it. If I can find a way to calm my nerves and the other health perks I get now from nicotine. Without nicotine, I iust can't imagine any reason to vape.
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I love vaping as much as I ever did smoking, maybe more. I have no intention at this time to quit vaping and as stated in a previous post if it happens then it happens and I'll be fine with that. I can't believe how easy it was to quit smoking with ecigs. I'm also surprised that I'm able to go for long periods of time when I'm out and about without vaping and have no cravings. I do enjoy getting back to my nest of vaping gear though where I can sit back and enjoy all my flavors at my leisure. I'm sure as time passes and more information comes out I'll reconsider my position on vaping if need be, but until then I'm just enjoying it over smoking and the fact that I feel so much better health wise.
How could you quit? It's the perfect combination for an addictive personality with a nerdy lust of technology and an appreciation for flavors and recipes.
Back in 2009 I quit smoking and vaping. I was surrounded by a family of smokers that smoked anywhere and everywhere. Needless to say I fell off the wagon and when headlong back to analogs. Probably worse than ever, truth be known.
I am back now! Stronger than ever and with my ENTIRE family vaping!
I have no intentions of quitting but if I do I will take it much slower than I did before.
I am back now! Stronger than ever and with my ENTIRE family vaping!
I have no intentions of quitting but if I do I will take it much slower than I did before.
My goal is to vape until I am off of the nic. However long that takes. Then quit vaping. I don't play into the vaping is a subculture bs. Not to say that while I am doing it I wont experiment with different pvs and tanks and what have you. But I do not idolize guys like grimmgreen and pbusardo and walk around blowing deh cloudz.... sorry if I offend anyone with that but im 37 not 15.
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I think a lot of people are going to be surprised when they wean themselves off nicotine and then decide to quit vaping.
They might just find out they were more addicted to the act itself than they were to the nicotine.
They might just find out they were more addicted to the act itself than they were to the nicotine.
Or they may find relief from the die hards in both the pro and anti vape worlds.
I like the nicotine so i have no plans to quit vaping. I use low nic juice at 3mg with an occasional 6mg.My plan is to see how low i can get...
eta: Staying stocked up so no matter what happens i will keep vaping
eta: Staying stocked up so no matter what happens i will keep vaping
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While I can respect your logic here, I don't think we should let a fact (we don't know the long term effect) being inconvenient cause us to suppress it. I am absolutely convinced that vaping is safer than smoking and every study I've ever seen would support this. There have however, been no studies to show long term whether it's harmful or not. While we may not like that, we can't be ostriches and ignore the things we'd rather not admit.
I'm okay with the information, but not with how it is sometimes / often times used.
If statement is used to determine that it could be harmful long term, and therefore ought to be advocated now to not use it, then I think it is about as misguided as, "yippee! No long term studies have been done yet. Which means it is totally safe for me in the long term. Yippee!"
And I honestly do think it is that misguided.
Think of all the items (food, mobile devices, etc.) we could apply such a statement to. On vast majority of those, I'm thinking people are going to use them and if short term anecdotal evidence suggests very little to no harm, they won't stop using them.
In all honesty, why would you?
Very Funny Post!!!One thing to keep in mind is that anyone who has quit vaping most likely isn't around here to talk about it.
In fact I only know one such vaper (otrpu) that still posts around these parts.
But I can tell you that I have seen a fair number of people who stumble into the forum saying that they quit vaping awhile back and sold all their vaping gear.
And then in a moment of weakness or a stress they started smoking again.
At least they were wise enough to come back here and get back to the vaping again.
Yeah, exactly what he said.
I never intended to quit smoking, and I never intend to quit vaping.
In fact, I have absolutely zero intention of even reducing my nicotine at any point in time.
But I do have two Chucks, as can be seen pictured over there on the left...
And any of those kind folks that want to take away my nicotine, or even just my vapor, can stop by anytime...
But they'll be walking funny when they leave, and I'll have one less Chuck.
EDIT: So yeah, posted this before reading the whole thread.
EDIT: Hey there otrpu!
I really enjoyed smoking too!! I love vaping as well, and am more than happy with my 18 mg nic and all day vapes. I will fight til the end for vapers, and have zero intention in quitting!
I am definitely off the analogs and onto vaping......I don't think I will ever let go of vaping, I just love it sooooooo much!!
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