Do you prefer tobacco flavored e-liquid or NET tobacco e-liquid?

[Mr.Mann]

I would think the process for nicotine extraction would limit WTA by it's specific intent, though I doubt that any extraction system is perfect.

Broad-based extraction as some might practice in their homes or perhaps commercially (I know not what processes may be used commercially) for tobacco flavorings would get some of 'the whole enchilada.' (I don't know why smaller molecules might be excluded).

Mr.Mann, you seem to be supporting the notion that extracted tobacco flavorings may have some WTA, if I am interpreting correctly.

At present I have no position on WTA.

I am not saying that necessarily, but like an at-home pregnancy test, there is no 100% in hardly anything. CYA.

I think it should be pointed out that the term I often use in regards to whether or not WTA is in extracted tobaccos is "negligible." If there is WTA, or more specifically and importantly, the carcinogen TSNA (tobacco specific nitrosamines) in your nicotine, NET, or nic juice in general, then the negligible amounts could be likely on par with the amounts of nicotine in Solanaceae family of vegetables: eggplants, tomatoes, and potatoes.

New England Journal of Medicine "Nicotine Content of Common Vegetables"

Tobacco-specific nitrosamines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Huffington Post: 20 Pounds of Eggplant Equivalent to One Cigarette

"Pharmaceutical-grade nicotine as supplied by corporations such as Dow and used in regular e-liquid is produced to a very high and checkable standard. It is processed extensively to remove anything other than nicotine. Very small amounts of carcinogens remain, but they are considered insignificant. They are seen in nicotine skin patches made from this pharma-grade nicotine, for example, as well as the e-liquid made from it." Rolygate 10.11.2011 (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html)

 

[HighlanderNorth]

I am not saying that, I am just saying, like a pregnancy test, that there is no 100% in hardly anything. CYA.

So, I take it you personally really like some of the NET flavors that you've tried? Which ones in particular? I'm not necessarily looking for a 100% cigarette taste(which I probably wont find anyway), as I wouldnt mind a nice complex tobacco flavor. If you were to ask me if I wanted a pipe tobacco type flavor, you're guess would be as good as mine, because I havent smoked or tasted pipe tobaccos, even though my Dad smoked Borkhum Riff(spelling?) for probably 20 years(then quit). I kinda like a slightly sweet taste. Not thick and sickeningly sweet like a desert though.

Whats your favorite non-NET tobacco flavor?

 

[Mr.Mann]

So, I take it you personally really like some of the NET flavors that you've tried? Which ones in particular? I'm not necessarily looking for a 100% cigarette taste(which I probably wont find anyway), as I wouldnt mind a nice complex tobacco flavor. If you were to ask me if I wanted a pipe tobacco type flavor, you're guess would be as good as mine, because I havent smoked or tasted pipe tobaccos, even though my Dad smoked Borkhum Riff(spelling?) for probably 20 years(then quit). I kinda like a slightly sweet taste. Not thick and sickeningly sweet like a desert though.

Whats your favorite non-NET tobacco flavor?

Gold from NLV is my favorite "tobacco" flavor that is not NET. Calling it a tobacco is a farce, but they do. Looking into my crystal ball I can see you enjoying

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Blue Grass Burley from Ahlusion.​

 

[Cool_Breeze]

On the one hand you mention tobacco extraction and on the other you say nicotine extraction. I think those are two entirely different animals.

If that concerns you, you might speak to Mr.Mann. It was he that brought 'nicotine extraction' into the discussion. That first sentence in my post #18 was to address Mr.Mann's post #11.

 

[mwa102464]

I've been making some NET's at home, preparing the leaves and putting them in a bottle then putting in my Nic/PG/VG Base and loving this technique, and the different freshly cured Tobacco leaf flavors are outstanding in my opinion. I've also been doing a little experimenting with using this as a base to make some other juices and adding some other flavors and additives, all of it has been turning out extremely well. I rarely purchase vendor made juice and I wont be buying vendor juice any longer myself with how nice this experiment has been moving forward. Either the straight tobacco NET or using it as my base with some flavor added is covering my vaping needs and some. Cheers & vape on

 

[Cool_Breeze]

...didn't come here to get schooled in the evils of WTA or anything. ...merely asking if extracted tobacco flavoring could contian WTA. I'll accept "negligible" as one possible answer and leave y'all to your theology matters. Thank you.

 

[Hulamoon]

MWA! WHOA! You can't get away with that! We need full fledged exposes -the whole 9 yards. Btw how'd you like the House of Liquids stuff? And when are you setting up shop?

I've been making some NET's at home, preparing the leaves and putting them in a bottle then putting in my Nic/PG/VG Base and loving this technique, and the different freshly cured Tobacco leaf flavors are outstanding in my opinion. I've also been doing a little experimenting with using this as a base to make some other juices and adding some other flavors and additives, all of it has been turning out extremely well. I rarely purchase vendor made juice and I wont be buying vendor juice any longer myself with how nice this experiment has been moving forward. Either the straight tobacco NET or using it as my base with some flavor added is covering my vaping needs and some. Cheers & vape on

 

[Hulamoon]

Someday Someone Somewhere might get a golden mailman.

Gold from NLV is my favorite "tobacco" flavor that is not NET. Calling it a tobacco is a farce, but they do. Looking into my crystal ball I can see you enjoying

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Blue Grass Burley from Ahlusion.​

 

[gthompson]

I'm not necessarily looking for a 100% cigarette taste(which I probably wont find anyway), as I wouldnt mind a nice complex tobacco flavor.

Honestly, most garden variety cigarettes taste more like burnt buttcrack than "a nice complex tobacco flavor". When I think of rich and complex tobacco flavors, I immediately think of one of the fine Cuban cigars that I've been lucky enough to have had a few times in my life. Cigarettes not so much. Whenever I hear someone compare a particular ejuice to Malboros, I lose all interest in trying it.

 

[Hulamoon]

El Toro El Toro El Toro.....House of Liquid.

I immediately think of one of the fine Cuban cigars that I've been lucky enough to have had a few times in my life.

 

[Hulamoon]

Actually that also answers the thread question for me too, - NET by far. Tobacco e-juice doesn't give me any tobacco flavor, though I may enjoy the juice because of the vanilla or caramel or anise themselves.

El Toro El Toro El Toro.....House of Liquid.

 

[jnorton1]

I do like ry4 that is sweet. I had 5ml of the original risky yuice and it was my favorite.

 

[gthompson]

El Toro El Toro El Toro.....House of Liquid.

Seriously!? Really!?


NO! I WILL NOT BUY MORE ELIQUID RIGHT NOW!

I already have like 250ml in my box and more coming.

 

[Hulamoon]

Seriously, Really really.

Seriously!? Really!?


NO! I WILL NOT BUY MORE ELIQUID RIGHT NOW!

I already have like 250ml in my box and more coming.

 

[gthompson]

I'll never be able to buy a provari.

 

[Hulamoon]

LOL - well, no point in buying a provari till you find a few of your finest flavors that you can climb into a hammock with, close your eyes, and vape while listening to the waves

 

[gthompson]

Seriously, Really really.

Bookmarked, for now. I hate you.

 

[gthompson]

LOL - well, no point in buying a provari till you find a few of your finest flavors that you can climb into a hammock with, close your eyes, and vape while listening to the waves

I have about 12 "finest flavors" right now.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Did I do something bad?

 

[mwa102464]

El Toro El Toro El Toro.....House of Liquid.

That's good but it aint got nuttin on my NET mixes but I'm not setting up any shop that would make it lose the fun in my opinion,,, and I must admit thought, that's what really made me do this, I've been wanting to do it for over a year and once I tried that fresh Canadian Virginia Flue cured leaf, I new right where I was going, Gawd bless that leafonly website they've got some seriously good fresh leaf and each has its own special flavor,, oh and mixing the Canadian Virginia Flue cured with some Burley is a wonderful thing,,,, and the sweet Bright leaf with a tad of Burley is another good thing,,,,,,,, and adding just a pinch of the Nicaraguan Seco cigar into the mix, is just over the top. I cant believe more people aren't all over this technique and finding ways to make it even better is even more fun


Mr. Mann, that's just impossible, you couldnt do anything Bad