Do you vape in the dark?

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Being a long time chain smoker, I frequently smoked in the dark.. in the bedroom, outside... for some reason part of the vaping experience to me seems to be seeing all the vapor that I put out.. maybe it's also that I can't feel the exhale the same way I did with cigs.. I find myself turning the porch light on at night just to see my plumes of vapor..
 
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Do you vape in the dark?

Not since I found this forum!
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I've noticed that too...that I can't really tell if I'm getting a hit if I can't actually see the exhaled vapor. I guess that's why I'm so focused on trying to get a satisfying exhale first in my early DIY experiments.

For tobacco flavors I think Tobacco Absolute in the right (very diluted) concentration helps a lot for a good exhale, but I still have a ways to go to get it where I want it to be.

So, no....I don't vape in the dark, yet.

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I'll have to look at that.. if you don't mind cinnamon, it helps a little, the more the better, but I find about 3 drops to 15ml doesn't leave a major cinnamon taste. The capsicum heat helps too, but I can't take more than a drop in 15ml. It's not peppery, doesn't have a taste and it seems to work primarily on exhale, but too much starts to rough up the throat.. not in a good way.
 

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Also ethyl maltol gives body to inhale and exhale.. I guess if we get enough tricks in the bag and use them all together we might get a more satisfying exhale

I'll try to keep Capsicum Heat in mind, and I've read about people using Ethyl Maltol with Tobacco Absolute, so I already wanted to check that out anyway.

Yeah, I'm sure there has to be a way to make a vape that has a satisfying exhale somehow. I wonder if that FA - MTS Vape Wizard stuff would help? Says it's supposed to add body, etc.

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I actually haven't noticed what mts does to the exhale spp much, it does add body to the vape, smoothes the whole thing out nicely too.. it goes in ALL MY mixes, I'm finding I like what it does so much I use it in higher and higher proportions as I go.. people on here have suggested 1 to two drops per 10 ml, I'm hitting it for around 4 drops to 15 (I mix mostly in 15ml batches cause I got tons of bottles left from Johnson Creek Smoke Juice)..

if you ever want premixed.. I highly recommend. The Red Oak Tennessee cured is a great tobacco taste, Domestic is about the same just less sweet and a little harsher.

Easy to see how mixing your own is way more cost effective dishing out 15 bucks including shipping for 15ml though... I'll hit them up from time to time anyway.. the Tennessee cured mixes well too with your own stuff. Fast shipping and nice packaging.. they toss in these extra 5ml dropper bottles to carry with you.. also handy for mixing up small batches, and they throw in a dropper cap to go along with the solid cap.

Back to the mts.. great stuff. Adds a little to the sweetness, in most cases it gives you more vapor, though I've read not always. It kills the harsh acidic tastes and brings up some of the more subtle notes of the mix. It has a bit of a flavor on it's own, but it doesn't really interfere with the mix. It's a good taste.. adds a little Smokey note to the vape that I really like. Hoosier on here has a blog, you should read them, I got great little tips from them that is already making this newbs mixes much better. He calls them unicorn tears and butterfly farts..which instantly makes me like him.. he explains the mts, bitter wizard, vinegar, lemon reconstitute (the plastic lemons in the produce section), magic mask, tart and sour and of course the ethyl maltol. Gives good starting point for each too. I'm putting at least 2% vinegar in all my mixes.. it sort of brightens it without changing flavor, adds some pleasant airy quality.. hard to describe. You just gotta try. Probably helps keep gear cleaner too.. just an assumption.

I'm kinda new to the mixing too, but I'm making a lot if progress with experiments and the help of this forum. It's the steeping time that really slows the process of learning down. I got a few tricks to help speed it up-_- but I think nothing compares to just letting it sit in a cool dark place for a few days to a few weeks shaking intermittently.. the taste difference from when you first mixed it really is drastic.. something can be ok when you mix it, after a week it might be amazing... so I'm on a mission to find an express steep method too.. I'm impatient..

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The first e-liquids I bought were Johnson Creek, before I even found this place (ECF). I liked the Tenesee Cured and Domestic, but later when they came out with Silverthorn that was my favorite. I'm pretty sure that at least the Silverthorn used Tobacco Absolute originally (read somewhere they may have later changed the recipe).

I've wanted to read Hoosier's blogs...can they be accessed with Tapatalk?

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I should also mention, I've gone to no pg base, thick vg only diluted 10% with distilled water. Which would generally be an atomizer killer, but I'm using stainless steel wicks I made. Most people say that pg provides more throat hit, which as far as harder hit on the inhale goes is true, but I found the huge dense volume of vapor I get from the high vg gives it a very full feeling and more on the exhale in my opinion. I'm getting minimal pg from the flavorings of course.
 

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Yeap i do it everyday :) when i used to smoke i always liked to sit alone and just blast away with a drink to think about stuff or what i did that day, same ritual but now with vapor.

About the exhale i know what you mean, thats why im not much into 100% pg liquids anymore because i dont get the same vapor "body" while exhaling.


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Yeah, I'm hooked on TONS of vapor.. working out as many tricks to add feel to exhale too..

I used to sit and smoke in a dark room and think too... now I just do it in dim light so I can see my clouds... lol.. a lot more exhaling out of nose too, just to get some scent on the way out.. I hybrid exhale..lol.. half out mouth half out nose.. I like to pull a little out of my mouth and inhale some through nose too even though I never did that with smoking

I think that's a lot of what smoking is... a personal time out... sorta short me time... brain time...

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