Does anyone know what's the quit rate for vaping?

[paulw2014]

Say, 100 smokers who want to quit or cut back on smoking, and you let them try vaping. Assume they get a good setup and good juice, what would be a typical success rate? Say, x% would quit for good, y% would cut down significantly but not completely, and z% would fail completely and not like vaping at all as a substitute.

Does anyone have an idea on the ball park figures? Just curious to see if it's worth it to try to convert some of my friends.

 

[Tiffany Smeggin Peak]

Findings from Boston University School of Public Health found consumers who purchased e-cigarettes remained smoke free six months after purchasing - a success rate of 31 percent compared to 12 to 18 percent for nicotine gum and patches. In a second new study, researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found interest in electronic cigarettes is also high among consumers.

The finding, published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, result of an online survey sent to 222 participants purchasing e-cigarettes for the first time. At six months, 34.3 percent of reports using no nicotine or electronic cigarettes and 67 percent said they had cut down on smoking. that is a blurb that I found, I know that with me, I haven't even wanted a cigarette, and I know of plenty people that have really cut down their smoking by nearly 1/2 in the first couple days. Hope that you can help your friends!

 

[Buggs5347]

Depends on how receptive your friends are and how much influence you have with them, I suppose. Personally, I wouldn't. I didn't like anyone bugging me about my smoking - I knew I should quit, I knew about ecigs - heck, I had hung around with several vapers for over 3 years (none of whom ever pressured me to quit smoking, but all who readily answered any questions I had over the years) - I wasn't ready. When I was finally ready, I quit the cigs the second day of vaping.

 

[MorpheusPA]

I've seen the same figures and they sound plausible.

One thing that they often don't take into account is the support system you have, and the information available from it. If I hadn't had ECF, I might not have done as well as I did. Every question I had was in the archives (or I asked it if I wasn't sure), and there were plenty of tips for those who were having trouble quitting.

On that advice, I stepped up the nic levels and purchased some new hardware to compensate for the issues I was having. That worked.

 

[Debadoo]

Does anyone have an idea on the ball park figures? Just curious to see if it's worth it to try to convert some of my friends.

Don't know about stats, but as to if it's worth it....sure it is.........even if you approach 100 and only get one! You already know you can't force em, but tell everyone you know about it in a non pressure way. It's easy enough to put something out there, and then guage their interest. They'll either give ya something that says, I'm not convinced but tell me more......or something that says back off bucko. lol

 

[Plumes.91]

assuming they get a good battery like an eGo or even a Bloog/Volt, or a Mod, and assuming they don't feel weird using it, lol, I'd say 100% of those people are going to stay off of cigarettes. Who would want to go back to cigarettes when you can be vaping kona caramel cream in the morning, RY4 all day, and Snickerdoodle before bed?? LOL. But i'm just joking around. IDK. I've quit cigarettes with vaping, and I've gone back to cigarettes. I'm on my 3rd time of coming back to vaping. I went back to cigarettes twice. Once, because I wasn't happy with the power of hits from my 510 batteries and I had ran out of juice. Another time, because I had taken up other bad habits and honestly didn't care about myself enough to keep vaping rather than take up smoking again. Whatever... E-cigarettes are different from eGos and Mods and success depends on a lot of things.

I never once experienced withdrawal from the different things in cigarettes.. and I've quit smoking with vapor 3 times now. My 1st attempt, I got frustrated because I THOUGHT I was withdrawing from nicotine and I figured the e-cig wasn't delivering as much as my cigarettes were, but I found out that I was actually overdosing on nicotine rather than withdrawing. Go figure.

Ecigs are still pretty new though. Keep with this forum and you'll stay informed.

 

[NICnurse]

I have wondered about this too. I instantly quit smoking when I started vaping 2.2 years ago. But....I really wanted to quit! I have tried to convert 3 people. One of them tried ecigs once and put it in a drawer. She has now gone on to be smoke free for a year by just going cold turkey. Another quit cigarettes completely with e ecig, then got pregnant, and went BACK to smoking after having her baby. Another has everything to be successful at vaping....she just really didn't want to quit. I don't think she really ever gave vaping an honest attempt.

I see even mixes of people that report all of the above scenarios......I am hoping quitting through vaping success continues to rise. But it all comes down to your desire to quit!

 

[Iffy]

For my thirty v-verts, it's been 'bout 70% long term success rate. I think a large factor in that percentage is that I was available to aid them when they had issues and/or questions.

 

[Spazmelda]

I believe the Polosa pilot study found that about 20% were able to quit, and this was among smokers who had no desire to quit smoking and with subpar equipment.

I think that among a group of highly motivated quitters, with good equipment, and a good support system, the number could be much much higher. Iffy's 70% wouldn't surprise me at all. If the powers that be quit scare mongering it would be helpful too.

Of course, you have to define "quitting" as well. Does quitting mean quitting all nicotine or does it just mean quitting combustible tobacco products? if it means quitting all nicotine altogether, the numbers would be much lower.

 

[RosaJ]

As far as I'm concerned, for 8 months now, I am 100% smoke free. So for myself, vaping has definitely worked after unsuccessfully having tried patches, gums, etc.

Even though the use of nicotine has been vilified as a drug, I've never heard of a smoker, nor a vaper, having caused accidents or violence against other people unlike other types of narcotics. So as far as I am concerned I am going to continue vaping since I consider it the same as having my one or two ups of coffee in the morning.

 

[cwolfman13]

It's an interesting question. Just from my personal experience, it would seem that vaping is far more effective in getting people off the smokes than anything else. I know for myself, I've tried many things, and this is the longest I've gone smoke free since I started smoking 20 years ago.

As far as converting your friends go...just my 2 cents, but people still have to be ready to give up the smoke. As helpful as vaping has been in getting me off the analogs, I don't think it would have really worked if I wasn't ready. To be honest, as excited as I am to be smoke free for a couple of weeks now, I know that I'm not "cured" of anything...so I can't really say that "it works" yet. Maybe a year or so down the road, I will be able to proclaim that vaping "cured" me...but for now, it's still one day at a time.

To that end, it's definitely worth introducing your friends to the world of vaping, but don't expect them to just drop the analogs and pick up a PV right away. And don't hound the either...we all make the decision to put down the smokes in our own time. No amount of hounding makes it happen any faster...if it did, my wife would have won this battle for me years ago.

 

[jamentertainment]

Bottom line..The people who want to quit will buy one at the mall or a gas station use it and prob toss it. Then they get an image in there head that e-cigs suck and wont help them. I have seen and heard this so many times. People will ask me what im smoking when I tell them they say "oh i tried one it wasnt good"...I am a perfect example of how well they work. I did the same that i just mentioned, I bought a blu pack used it "maybe for a couple day's..dont remember" and went back to smoking for a whole year, then i seen the ego t, I bought it with no intention of quiting analogs just wanted to use it while i was djing, and could not beleive how well it worked, I quit right after trying the ego t for the first time. I really think that e-cigs would be so popular and out of control "a positive for us"...if these malls and gas stations were selling a e-cig that packed a punch..

 

[PhreakySTS9]

Open mindedness is a huge problem to getting people to switch. Most people view vaping as a poor alternative to smoking. They equate it with the gum or the patch, rather than as a real alternative. I have one buddy who i've tried to talk about it with before, and he not receptive at all about it. He tried one before and liked it but said he still wanted a cig. No matter how many times I tried to tell him that it isn't an instant miracle for most people, and that even I still needed cigs(although a lot less) for the first week or so of vaping, he wouldn't budge. I don't badger him about it, as it's his life and his choice.

 

[flintlock62]

Findings from Boston University School of Public Health found consumers who purchased e-cigarettes remained smoke free six months after purchasing - a success rate of 31 percent compared to 12 to 18 percent for nicotine gum and patches. In a second new study, researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found interest in electronic cigarettes is also high among consumers.

The finding, published in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, result of an online survey sent to 222 participants purchasing e-cigarettes for the first time. At six months, 34.3 percent of reports using no nicotine or electronic cigarettes and 67 percent said they had cut down on smoking. that is a blurb that I found, I know that with me, I haven't even wanted a cigarette, and I know of plenty people that have really cut down their smoking by nearly 1/2 in the first couple days. Hope that you can help your friends!

If those stats are true, then I believe the rate would be even higher if it weren't for those gimmick "free trial" things we all see. They're all a piece of crap. If higher quality one's were more readily found, I think the quit rate would be MUCH higher.

My first experience was with the free trial type, who wanted to bill my c-card monthly with inferior carto's. It wasn't until I found there are products that actually work out there. Yes, I started back with a v2, but I'm about to take another step forward and and get a vv system. With a sincere thanks to this forum!

 

[Cptfunpants]

I'm always skeptical of these studies. A lot of these studies are using generic eCig type stuff. Like a blu cig or something like that. Not trying to bash the product by any means, but I think the success rate would be higher if the studies were done with people using a Twist or something along those lines.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

Bottom line..The people who want to quit will buy one at the mall or a gas station use it and prob toss it. Then they get an image in there head that e-cigs suck and wont help them. I have seen and heard this so many times. People will ask me what im smoking when I tell them they say "oh i tried one it wasnt good"...I am a perfect example of how well they work. I did the same that i just mentioned, I bought a blu pack used it "maybe for a couple day's..dont remember" and went back to smoking for a whole year, then i seen the ego t, I bought it with no intention of quiting analogs just wanted to use it while i was djing, and could not beleive how well it worked, I quit right after trying the ego t for the first time. I really think that e-cigs would be so popular and out of control "a positive for us"...if these malls and gas stations were selling a e-cig that packed a punch..

This mirrors my experience almost exactly. I first tried Blu-cigs and gave up on them after a couple weeks. It was an awful and confusing experience. It seemed every couple hours (maybe 50 puffs) it would stop working and I had to try to figure out if the battery died or the carto died. Neither had any life span at all. Even when it worked it was very unsatisfying. I gave up on the eCig concept total until about a year later I stumbled upon someone smoking a Joye 510 who was happier with it. After a little more research I bought an ego-t and quit smoking. Now I am using more advanced PV's but it was the ego that gave me a good enough experience to quit vaping. Now anyone who asks me about vaping I tell them it is great, but do not buy any of the little ecigs that look like cigarettes without being any more specific.

I tried to get my father to use an ego-c and he couldn't make the transition. But I think he doesn't feel need to get away from cigarettes due to health reasons. He has been smoking for 60 years without any noticeable consequences and figures it won't matter since he won't be around that much longer anyway. But I think with younger people it might be easier especially with the tech craze with iPhones, iPods, tablets, etc. they might be more interested in picking up another technological marvel.

 

[njay23]

......100%

 

[Debadoo]

For my thirty v-verts, it's been 'bout 70% long term success rate. I think a large factor in that percentage is that I was available to aid them when they had issues and/or questions.

Jup! I do think that having folks there to support you and answer questions is a huge factor for many. I had no choice but to find something else and make it work, so I had to search out stuff on the internet, and found ECF and lots of folks like Iffy. My SIL on the other hand, is interested, but won't search out stuff, wants me to tell her. At first it was the blind leading the blind and I told her that. Soon we'll be spending a lot more time together, and I'm hoping I can really get her more into vaping and less into cigs. Good news is, she's gone from 2.5-3 ppd down to about 1 ppd or just a bit more.

As far as I'm concerned, for 8 months now, I am 100% smoke free. I consider it the same as having my one or two ups of coffee in the morning.

Absolutely!!! Dr's can't prescribe or recommend things that will hurt you and yet they encourage nicotine patches, gum etc. Most docs will say that just the nicotine is about the same as caffeine. Nic isn't the concern with vaping, from what I understand the concern is far more about things like silica wick in the lungs, and things like that. I once heard someone say that vaping is to smoking as swimming is to drowning. They can look similar, but one can kill ya, the other doesn't. I don't smoke, period!

 

[filter]

there are a lot of factors but i think if the person wants to quit, they have a good to excellent setup and juice and they have friends or some sort of support system (like ECF), i would think the success rate would be 60-80%. as you start to remove some of those factors (aren't ready to quit, poor setup, etc) it's gonna lower the chances significantly. also if friends and family members ridicule someone for vaping rather than act supportive towards it, i think that would lower it even further.

 

[hellerhighwater]

It's amazing how much equipment matters. I started off with an old 510 auto but wasn't able to kick the habit (almost - I cheat on rare occasions) completely until I picked up some ego tank style equipment. With the stuff I have now, the desire to smoke seems like a distant memory.

I really wish the mall kiosks would sell some legit stuff instead of focusing on getting people locked in to monthly cartridge deliveries. That whole scheme makes the e-cig industry seem skeezy...