Does anyone use their e-cigarette in the pub?

[LungFish]

Only advice I would give is wait until the plane takes off before lighting up.. then they can't exactly chuck you off can they...

Actually, you can forget anything you think you know about rights once you're on there. And yes, putting vapours into the air in a sealed pressurised cabin *IS* enough to restrain you, land at an alternate and have you arrested.


There are some pretty strict penalties for causing a commotion on a plane, even where it may have been unintentional. I don't know if you remember the ryan air passenger who was arrested for enthusiastically debating with cabin crew about an inedible sandwich... as soon as he solicited the opinion of others it was a breach of air safety, a possible incitement to mutiny, and the staff had carte blanche in dealing with him. He was arrested upon landing and fined heavily.

Then there's the passenger who, despite instruction to the contrary, left his seat 30 mins into a flight to use the toilet as he was desperate. Again, restrained, arrested, and handed over to police on landing. If you even mention the word bomb in joke you're as guilty as if you made a direct threat... as the man who accidentally said "Why? it's not like I have a bomb in my bag" on a BA flight quickly found out.


So...

You want to let wisps of smokey vapour rise into the air for nervous flyers behind to panic over ? Or for someone with limited visibility to simply assume you're trying to set fire to the sole of your shoe or somesuch ? Ummm, Yeah... you'd be guilty of "behaviour likely to cause a panic on an airplane" as surely as if you'd set fire to your seat.

Honestly, eCigs may have their place in a plane... the toilets. And only if you really must. Use the least vapourous mix you can - a 100% PG lowest nico you can use - and take shorter well-spaced-out puffs. Blow it down away from any vents or openings, blowing directly into a vent may seem like the best way to avoid a buildup of smoke - but that might be blown straight out another vent - so let it dissipate naturally.

You DO have a duty as a passenger to behave responsibly and actively avoid causing any alarm or discontent on board the aircraft.

And don't forget that even if no panic ensues, you're dealing with recycled air. The vapour may be visibly short lived but in a sealed pressurised tube with a 100 edgy passengers at FL340 and 330 KIAS under international law it is probably NOT the best time nor place to be debating what it is, where it went and whether it is a threat.

Seriously, you have to use your head. A train is one thing, a plane is another.


-Gary

 

[cigarbabe]

Oops sorry wrong forum!

I have vaped in my doctor's waiting room and offices, most restaurants and in church. I've had an older couple give me dirty looks and mutter at me as if I was smoking in a "Cracker Barrel" restaurant, when the manager explained they left {finished eating} but it didn't bother anyone else.
I have classes in the church so far, so good.
The only place that said I couldn't vape after letting me for three weeks, was a dance studio where some hag complained even though I explained and showed most of them the product.
I also told them that it was a no nic formulation. I was told the owner didn't want such a "dangerous product" in her place but I never got to talk to her since I canceled my classes after that.
C.B.

 

[bwood12043]

If you even mention the word bomb in joke you're as guilty as if you made a direct threat...
-Gary

I can also attest to the "don't even JOKE about anything explosive" stories. My mother was traveling and at nearly 80 years old and requiring a wheelchair, she was being taken to her connecting flight and they took her to the wrong gate THREE times, thus she missed her connection and really messed up by losing her cool and saying "No wonder people blow up your planes !" She was detained, taken to security, questioned at length, not even allowed a sip of water or her meds for over 4 hours, then she was finally released to get on another plane to my city, where I was waiting without a clue of what her status was. (she had no cell phone and was not given an opportunity to call)

Anyway, I have been in several airports in the states and never been given any hassle about my PV or batteries or small liquid bottles in carry on. Vaped in the terminal and on some flights, on the plane, but I would not push the issue in flight now that some airlines have restrictions on in flight use.

But in reality it's not the in flight that is the problem wait, it's the terminal wait time, so I am happy that I still can vape openly in the terminal, at the gate, etc.

Keep it discreet, cooperative, and considerate and we will see our vaping becoming more acceptable in public as we go along. I really do believe that. I have seen great improvement in my over 2 years of vaping.

Happy vaping !

 

[Toby]

Actually, you can forget anything you think you know about rights once you're on there. And yes, putting vapours into the air in a sealed pressurised cabin *IS* enough to restrain you, land at an alternate and have you arrested.

I stand corrected Gary...

But even with a VG/PG mix (let's say) and using an LR carto, it is perfectly possible to take large inhales, hold it in, and virtually no visible vapour will come out...

Oh, and btw...

Particularly once they realise it doesn't smell of anything.

My liquid smells of something, and it smells nice!

 

[roadhoguk]

I always ask first, i call my eGo`s a NRD (full name) though, not a e cig, peeps instantly image a ciggy if you say e-cig, usually i then demonstrate my device (in pubs at the counter this attracts punters as well), i have only been refused the use of it once after this but have enjoyed my eGo in loads of Pubs. clubs, cinemas and trains and so far have converted 32 people (to my knowledge), education to the wider public shows them that there IS an alternative out there

 

[LungFish]

But even with a VG/PG mix (let's say) and using an LR carto, it is perfectly possible to take large inhales, hold it in, and virtually no visible vapour will come out...

I'd have to hold mine a silly long time, but then this particular cart is a VG, no PG. I think it's a lot easier concealing smoke with the PG carts.

My liquid smells of something, and it smells nice!

Haha, mine too. But relative to analogues... it really doesn't 'smell'

I think you probably have it a little better on US domestic flights though, even after 9/11 they seem quite lax once boarded compared to europe. Either way though, you're pretty much at the mercy of the crews interpretation even on a domestic. A little ignorance goes a long way at that altitude : )

I've no issue with joining the mile-high club for vappers - but it'd be in the toilets every time : )

-Gary

 

[Bjorn Toulouse]

Never had a problem in a plain just steath vape, pubs no probs, However getting though security on an internal flight in Egypt OMG!! they took me to the side I had to open every cart, I had one dead battery (they conviscated it )
but here in blighty I vape pretty much any where never get any hassle

 

[Gazzarian]

I too vape openly, without asking, at pubs and restaurants and have had no problem. One restaurant owner borrowed it to take to her husband, the chef, who was a heavy smoker and it seems he was converted (boy was she happy!). Have also discreetly vaped, in seat, on 4 long haul Emirates flights (PG, reading light off, air jet full on, exhaled slowly through nose) and taken all the gear including liquids through security in the Middle East and Africa no problem at all.

 

[Tynesider]

I work alongside customs at a ferry port and they have never taken anyones e-cig from them, don't know about the airports but I could ask when I next see them.

 

[Chrissie]

That would be brilliant if you could ask Tynsider Let us know what they say.

 

[Tynesider]

I was using mine in a CIU club and was asked to put it away, I explained what it was but they were ignorant to the fact that it was smokeless.
I have to go outside to use it!

 

[Rusty]

Tynesider,

Print off a copy of the CAM-VIP leaflet and take that to the club - they may change their minds,,,,after numerous committee meetings of course

Rusty

 

[robot_roo]

I use my ecigg in my local village pub all the time!

 

[Rusty]

Can you please let me know the name/location of the pub please roo

 

[robot_roo]

yes sure but its along way from yorkshire lol

 

[Rusty]

I am compiling a list/map of vaping pubs Roo, so it doesn't matter where it is - it will be an oasis in a desert for some travelling vaper out there

Campaign for Vaping in Pubs - CommunityWalk

Rusty

 

[robot_roo]

ok will do, will ask my landlord first though as i'm the only one that does it and he might just take offence and cut off my beer supply if hundreds of vapourers turn up and say I sent them lol
will pop in and ask at the weekend

 

[Al Capwn]

Rusty, the Duke Of Monmouth Oxford has signs up saying vaping allowed. Not sure if they are your ones but they are like the no smoking ones but green.

duke of monmouth oxford - Google Maps

 

[robot_roo]

Rusty, the Duke Of Monmouth Oxford has signs up saying vaping allowed. Not sure if they are your ones but they are like the no smoking ones but green.

duke of monmouth oxford - Google Maps

good news... next time the wife drags me to oxford to go shopping I'm in!!!

 

[Ranny]

Lions of Bledlow near Princes Risborough has similar sign on door.