Does Battery Size Matter?

[Megatrond]

See...

That right there is what I was talking about... The confusion.

This is a 160 watt mod.

It has a series battery configuration.

One batteries voltage isn't going to level the other out while resting as they're depleted.

Let's assume one battery, if not both is going to get down to 3.5 volts before the mod cuts off.

Also assume the wattage setting is going to change in his pocket at some point.

160 watts at 3.5 volts is over 40 amps.

Shared between 2 cells, that's over 20 amps for the circuit.

There isn't a button top on the market I'd trust with that.

He needs flat tops.

The mod had better work with them because it's spec'd for them. Period.

Tapatyped

Learn something new everyday. I did not know that there are no button tops that would not have a high enough amp rating. Nor did I know that a 160w dual 18650 vv/vw mod would not have the safety devices to not turn into a rocket propelled grenade!

 

[Mooch]

Grim Green was referencing Mooch's test results on his blog tonight.

That was friggin' awesome...my jaw just dropped. He saw the Plumes of Hazard mention recently and checked out a couple tests of mine. Helping to spread the word and hopefully all of us together can start getting these rewrappers to put genuine ratings on their cells!

 

[beckdg]

Learn something new everyday. I did not know that there are no button tops that would not have a high enough amp rating. Nor did I know that a 160w dual 18650 vv/vw mod would not have the safety devices to not turn into a rocket propelled grenade!

It can't know the batteries limitations. That's the users job.

AW has 20+ amp rated cells in button tops.

But they don't perform well enough for me to trust them at 20 amps personally.

Unless Mooch (and only Mooch) has tested them and knows something I don't.

Technically, the only cells that should be recommended for this mod is the vtc4. But it seems to be counterfeited often and there's always the question of legitimacy unless the retailer tests their inventory. You have to know your source is reliable.

Tapatyped

 

[Mooch]

It's important to emphasize the Min Voltage is measured at the cell also.

Tapatyped

Good catch! Equation updated...thanks!

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

That was friggin' awesome...my jaw just dropped. He saw the Plumes of Hazard mention recently and checked out a couple tests of mine. Helping to spread the word and hopefully all of together can start getting these rewrappers to put genuine ratings on their cells!

can I have your autograph

 

[beckdg]

Good catch! Equation updated...thanks!

More than welcomed.

What battery (ies) would YOU recommend for around 22 amp draw per cell?

Tapatyped

 

[Mooch]

It can't know the batteries limitations. That's the users job.

AW has 20+ amp rated cells in button tops.

But they don't perform well enough for me to trust them at 20 amps personally.

Unless Mooch (and only Mooch) has tested them and knows something I don't.

Technically, the only cells that should be recommended for this mod is the vtc4. But it seems to be counterfeited often and there's always the question of legitimacy unless the retailer tests their inventory. You have to know your source is reliable.

Tapatyped

The AW 24A 1600mAh button-top tested out as a true 24A cell. Purchased from RTDVapor.

 

[Mooch]

More than welcomed.

What battery (ies) would YOU recommend for around 22 amp draw per cell?

Tapatyped

That's a bit higher than I like to see the HG2 being run, but it's a fantastic cell and if not chain vaping should be
OK. Otherwise the VTC4 or HD2 is fantastic at 22A, or the 25R (runs a bit cooler) for longer run time. Lots of choices at 22A.

 

[Megatrond]

It can't know the batteries limitations. That's the users job.

AW has 20+ amp rated cells in button tops.

But they don't perform well enough for me to trust them at 20 amps personally.

Unless Mooch (and only Mooch) has tested them and knows something I don't.

Technically, the only cells that should be recommended for this mod is the vtc4. But it seems to be counterfeited often and there's always the question of legitimacy unless the retailer tests their inventory. You have to know your source is reliable.

Tapatyped

This is why I use a dual 26650 mod for sub ohming. I assumed that if you had a mod like this it would have a pretty safe ohm range for the coil as to not tax the batts as well as not let them drain too low. I have seen a resurgence of Sony batteries, but as you say, at this point what is the odds of them being real. Not to hijack the OP but why do button tops not perform as well?

 

[beckdg]

The AW 24A 1600mAh button-top tested out as a true 24A cell. Purchased from RTDVapor.

That's surprising. I was never impressed with mine. But they're old now. Newer test, maybe?

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

Not to hijack the OP but why do button tops not perform as well?

The higher amp batteries just aren't typically made in that configuration. No other reason.

Tapatyped

 

[Mooch]

That's surprising. I was never impressed with mine. But they're old now. Newer test, maybe?

Tapatyped

I don't remember when I did the test...a month ago?

 

[roxynoodle]

Go with flat tops and vtc4s. Keep checking Illumn, RTD and Obtronics. They get them. I've been lucky and bought a bunch from illumn last month and this month.

 

[beckdg]

That would be rtdvapor and illumination supply...

Tapatyped

 

[Younghorsejr]

Find a source for authentic sony vtc4 in stock. Ask around.

If you cant source them and know they're authentic, go with the lg hg2 or samsung 25r.

These are the only batteries I'd trust in that mod. Before the batteries are depleted, that mod is capable of pulling over 20 amps from each battery. You need something stout and proven in there.

Please ignore edyle for the moment. He's only confusing things.

Tapatyped

I actually decided to go through and get the sony vtc 4s on myfreedomsmokes and got a good deal too for 2 for $15 so I'm definitely happy with that. And thanks everyone for the help!