does no one like premium?
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Never had good life vapor but both murdock and nicoticket definitely have "premium price tags" especially since nicoticket raised their prices. But premium isn't about money, it's about quality.
And yeah I do think MBV is crap but that's just me.
$18-20 for a 30ml bottle of juice IMHO is not premium to me. NT and MM are premium flavors with a great price point. Higher price does not make a juice taste better or make you look cooler. Nor does frilly packaging.
Forgot to mention I also vape MBVs GWAR juices a lot. Why? Because they taste amazing!!
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$18 - $20 for e liquid is paying "premium price". MM and NT are both $20 then after shipping it's closer to $25. So I mean you're actually paying more than 18 or $20. Either way it doesn't matter, you cant put a price on quality.
And no one said anything about higher priced juice tasting better or making you look cooler. Thar was an immature comment.
Speaking of frilly packaging, NT just changed to these awesome looking glass bottles. Moving on up!
There's a gourmet juice thread that you would find a lot of people on who use higher end blends..
Maybe, but if that crap sandwich keeps you on the vape then how crap is it really?
I vape dekang menthol and it's about as low end as you can get. Every other juice I've tried leaves me wanting a cigarette.
Dekang menthol does not. Go figure.
I think that there are quite aspects to this. First is the differentiation between objective and subjective truth (viewpoints) some things are fact and other things are opinion. To assume that everyone should think something is terrible because you think it is- tends to be a big misconception. If we are talking about quality of the bases or nic source- that is a little more definitive. Flavor preference is so subjective and I always try to avoid a narcissistic viewpoint and consider whether it is my objective or subjective opinion.
Secondly, I think it depends on how one defines premium. Some go by price point, complexity, branding and packaging, and others consider many aspects eclectically.
I personally care about:
Objectively- the quality of the bases, nic, consistency between orders, processing and shipping time, etc
Subjectively: flavor combo's, flavor strength, if the quality justifies the cost for me, the buying experience, etc
I buy both expensive and inexpensive juices. I only re-order things I like. I love CYT and Divinus from GiantVapes.... and I just ordered moon sugar, bourbon custard in addition to the divinus and CYT. My main vendor is ITC but I am always trying new juices in many price points...especially from threads here on ECF. Thats how I discovered Gold Rush...And I just ordered a bunch from Vapewild..
I like to keep an open mind when trying juices and find what works for ME...its not about the status of the juice but whether I enjoy vaping it. As long as the quality and experience justifies the price I am down with it. But I try not to be an elitist when it comes to mainstream juices...but hey everyone is different. And that is what is so cool...we are all so different and that is why there are so many different options...
Secondly, I think it depends on how one defines premium. Some go by price point, complexity, branding and packaging, and others consider many aspects eclectically.
I personally care about:
Objectively- the quality of the bases, nic, consistency between orders, processing and shipping time, etc
Subjectively: flavor combo's, flavor strength, if the quality justifies the cost for me, the buying experience, etc
I buy both expensive and inexpensive juices. I only re-order things I like. I love CYT and Divinus from GiantVapes.... and I just ordered moon sugar, bourbon custard in addition to the divinus and CYT. My main vendor is ITC but I am always trying new juices in many price points...especially from threads here on ECF. Thats how I discovered Gold Rush...And I just ordered a bunch from Vapewild..
I like to keep an open mind when trying juices and find what works for ME...its not about the status of the juice but whether I enjoy vaping it. As long as the quality and experience justifies the price I am down with it. But I try not to be an elitist when it comes to mainstream juices...but hey everyone is different. And that is what is so cool...we are all so different and that is why there are so many different options...
I don't believe in "Premium". To me there is the cheap Chinese chemical tasting junk they sell at most tobacco shops and then there is good tasting vape juice. Some is expensive and some is not. I pay 10 bucks for 30ml and It's good to me. So I call it premium. I have paid 12 bucks for a 10ml and thought it tasted like puke. So it wasn't premium. At least that's how I look at it. 
Add On: And be careful about calling out juice companies people around here like. I asked a similar question about one company (I won't say thier name again here) and it unleashed a firestorm from their faithful followers. Just sayin.
Add On: And be careful about calling out juice companies people around here like. I asked a similar question about one company (I won't say thier name again here) and it unleashed a firestorm from their faithful followers. Just sayin.
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Just to be clear, in my opinion premium means the juice has complexity, it's presteeped to perfection and the right combination of each ingredient. Ordering from companies like ITC or MBV you just don't get that. The reason premium juice cost more is because there's more time and care invested in it. It's like the difference of plain old beer and craft beer.
Take an inexpensive juice, change the label so that the words "premium" and "gourmet" are plastered all over it, and double the price......most people would love it and feel "upscale" all at the same time!
Both very good points here.I recently started vaping on a juice that is the best i have tasted,and i can almost gaurantee most people would think is a "premium" high priced juice if they went strictly by taste,yet this particular juice is very inexpensive,in fact i can get 120ml of it for less than 1 bottle of hyped up higher end stuff.Point being,like several people have mentioned taste is subjective,but if you buy just because of the name or hype,then your missing out,but to each their own.I don't believe in "Premium". To me there is the cheap Chinese chemical tasting junk they sell at most tobacco shops and then there is good tasting vape juice. Some is expensive and some is not. I pay 10 bucks for 30ml and It's good to me. So I call it premium. I have paid 12 bucks for a 10ml and thought it tasted like puke. So it wasn't premium. At least that's how I look at it.
I have found some budget prices providing complexity and others not but where you draw that line and where I do is subjective. Then I have had complex non-presteeped and presteeped. It cost more becuase of product development, branding, presteeping, etc. And as much as I will pay higher priced juices- I find them ridiculous sometimes. I vape way too much so that if I was I personally do not care for MBV but love the other one you mentioned. I judge vendors independently and don't lump them all together...
With juice companies rasing prices I find it refreshing when others lower them.
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If I'd ever found a "premium" that was worth the extra 5-10$ I'd probably be happy to pay it - but the fact is I just haven't really. Any more than 10$ for 15ml and I'm immediately skeptical, ESPECIALLY when sample sizes aren't offered. And when I can find a ton of juices I like at an incredibly low price, I just see no need to waste my time and money on "complex" "premium" "insert other buzz word" juice that is, at best, as satisfying as the budget lines.
Taste is subjective. I don't like mushrooms - that doesn't make them bad. So if you're getting the vape you want out of a premium juice, go for it! It's totally worth it.
Taste is subjective. I don't like mushrooms - that doesn't make them bad. So if you're getting the vape you want out of a premium juice, go for it! It's totally worth it.
Many of the popular "premium" juices like Suicide Bunny and Cuttwood are around $20/30ml. Many consider that to be a premium price point. I bough Custards Last Stand and Creme Brulee right before they raised their prices, and frankly I wasn't too impressed. CLS is a decent custard, but for me definitely not worth $19 for 30 ml. Creme Brulee was good at first but got an odd taste after steeping and both are a bit light on flavor for my taste. Personally I'd rather vape some of ITC's flavors, including their new custard, for $8/30ml. Price and packaging do effect people's perception of quality. Many fans of "top shelf" wine and liquors, for example, couldn't tell the difference if you put a cheaper brand in the bottle, or rate their favorite top shelf brand pretty low in blind taste tests. If someone thinks something is high quality their brain can trick them into thinking it really is when it might not be.
I really need to try casey Jones mainland or whatever it's called. Looks like an up and coming company. The reason I stopped trying the cheaper companies is cause I usually never like them and after all that it's a waste of money, not much money but still a waste. I've liked almost every higher end juice that I've had.
i consider Halo to be a premium quality juice vendor. Tribeca was the very first juice i tried and i love it. recently i saw a post here where a member tried it and he said it tasted like he was vaping sewing machine oil. i got a good laugh out of that description. everybody has different tastes. right now i`m vaping nicks blissful brew smoked custard. i like it. the OP likes it but that does not mean everybody likes it or thinks its a premium juice. another one of my favorites is a DIY RY4 that costs me about $3 for 30ml. is it premium? i guess not. does it taste great? h#ll yeah! 
right now i`m vaping nicks blissful brew smoked custard. i like it. the OP likes it but that does not mean everybody likes it or thinks its a premium juice. another one of my favorites is a DIY RY4 that costs me about $3 for 30ml. is it premium? i guess not. does it taste great? h#ll yeah!
I had never heard of nicks blissful brew smoked custard before,so when i seen it posted here i had to look it up.Normally,i won't give a second thought about juice when it has a price like that,simply because that's a good chunk of money just to take a chance,but i have to admit,i may very well give that one a try simply because it sounds like a very unique taste haha.As for the diy ry4,i agree,if you have a good recipe for it,that's one of the best juices there is.
Well everyone has some excellent comments here, we are all right and wrong in the fact that not everyones taste buds are alike, I myself used to love Menthol but since buying my MVP2 that is now way too strong for me, but I also am with many others in that I wont pay for expensive juice as I am hard to please, so I purchase 5 x 10ml bottles of my choice and strength for as little as 9.99 GBP plus p&p online. This I am not sure about but many store hold testers, so why not go into one and ask if they have that particular flavour as a tester to try they can either say yes or no. Doesn't hurt to ask. It is just like an American favourite "cold tea", you either love it or hate it, I hate it cant stand tea except flavoured tea but still not cold, now cold coffee is another thing I love coffee and also dont mind it cold. So this is why I stated that everyones taste buds are different, we cannot judge others on their likes and dislikes.
By the way never said this yet but what a great forum.
By the way never said this yet but what a great forum.
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