does no one like premium?

[Wruff]

$60 for 30ml of ejuice? WOW! What an extreme ripoff.

"Premium". As if ejuice is so complex and difficult to make. As if it's that difficult to find quality ingredients. It's so simple and easy!

I make 30ml of "premium" ejuice for under 5 cents. Not saying you gotta make your own, just that ejuice is such extraordinarily simple stuff and costs pretty much nothing to make.

$20, $40, even $60 for 30ml of VG/PG mix with a little flavoring? OUCH!

"Oh but Wruff they have such complex flavors and steep their juice and have such neat names and those guys are mixologists and blah blah blah."

$60 for a few ml of flavored glycerine??

 

[Redhotchewy]

I don't really understand what makes a juice premium. If it's the price then you are really getting hosed because advertising is just working it's magic on you. If it is taste and smoothness well that is REALLY subjective. If it's quality of ingredients then I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the majority of E-Liquid companies get their flavoring from the same places posted on this forum. VG and PG and nicotine are pretty much your only changing variable here but even that is pretty small differences because USP PG and VG is the broad standard and nicotine is usually broken down from 99.9% pure. Soooo..........can someone tell me the difference?

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

$60 for 30ml of ejuice? WOW! What an extreme ripoff.

"Premium". As if ejuice is so complex and difficult to make. As if it's that difficult to find quality ingredients. It's so simple and easy!

I make 30ml of "premium" ejuice for under 5 cents. Not saying you gotta make your own, just that ejuice is such extraordinarily simple stuff and costs pretty much nothing to make.

$20, $40, even $60 for 30ml of VG/PG mix with a little flavoring? OUCH!

"Oh but Wruff they have such complex flavors and steep their juice and have such neat names and those guys are mixologists and blah blah blah."

$60 for a few ml of flavored glycerine??

That's the cheap stuff dude. I pay $400 for 15ml of my ADV.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

I don't really understand what makes a juice premium. If it's the price then you are really getting hosed because advertising is just working it's magic on you. If it is taste and smoothness well that is REALLY subjective. If it's quality of ingredients then I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the majority of E-Liquid companies get their flavoring from the same places posted on this forum. VG and PG and nicotine are pretty much your only changing variable here but even that is pretty small differences because USP PG and VG is the broad standard and nicotine is usually broken down from 99.9% pure. Soooo..........can someone tell me the difference?

Advertisement?

 

[Redhotchewy]

Advertisement?

Yeah, like when you go to the grocery store and there is an "Organic section" that charges a premium for organic products that are otherwise pretty much the same as anything else. In a hypothetical, I can make E-Liquid and call it premium, charge you $45 per 15 mL and you have received nothing more then a competitor can do but I have better advertising and internet presence so you believe my juice is better then other companies without any follow through on my end. At least with organic you have to go through some hoops to get that stamp on your product but this is an unregulated industry. Premium doesn't have meaning as I have observed. I was hoping someone could shed some light on the whole premium craze because it just seems like an advertising scam to me.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

Yeah, like when you go to the grocery store and there is an "Organic section" that charges a premium for organic products that are otherwise pretty much the same as anything else. In a hypothetical, I can make E-Liquid and call it premium, charge you $45 per 15 mL and you have received nothing more then a competitor can do but I have better advertising and internet presence so you believe my juice is better then other companies without any follow through on my end. At least with organic you have to go through some hoops to get that stamp on your product but this is an unregulated industry. Premium doesn't have meaning as I have observed. I was hoping someone could shed some light on the whole premium craze because it just seems like an advertising scam to me.

I wouldn't buy it for that price my man. But I will say that premium is not an advertising scam for all you conspiracy theorists out there. At least not always but there are scams everywhere all the time, so that's just life.

 

[ImThatGuy]

Okay...this is an example of why a 'premium' juice can't be sold as cheap as let's say, mt. baker, just an example. I'm not saying that premium juices should be at a standard price level, but ALL OF THE OVERHEAD/PRODUCTION/WHATEVER COSTS has to be transferred to the price of what product is being sold.

 

[Wruff]

^ ^ LOL @ their "orbital and giometric mixing systems".

Gee they sure shake their buckets of juice real fancy like.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

^ ^ LOL @ their "orbital and giometric mixing systems".

Gee they sure shake their buckets of juice real fancy like.

You probably don't like craft beer either, do you?

 

[PLANofMAN]

^ ^ LOL @ their "orbital and giometric mixing systems".

Gee they sure shake their buckets of juice real fancy like.

Well it sounds better than "...we use this paint mixer to mix the ingredients..."

 

[Wruff]

You probably don't like craft beer either, do you?

lol

How presumptuous.

Nevermind that you're getting friggin' robbed paying upwards of $60 for not even a nickel's worth of flavored glycerin.

 

[Wruff]

That's the cheap stuff dude. I pay $400 for 15ml of my ADV.

Well zombie dude, as long as you're using them fancy orbital and giometric mixing systems then surely it's worth every penny.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

Well zombie dude, as long as you're using them fancy orbital and giometric mixing systems then surely it's worth every penny.

The technology I use is far ahead of anything you've ever heard of. I'm actually from the future.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

lol

How presumptuous.

Nevermind that you're getting friggin' robbed paying upwards of $60 for not even a nickel's worth of flavored glycerin.

Haha dude no one is paying $60 for 30ml of eliquid. What are you talking about?

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

Okay...this is an example of why a 'premium' juice can't be sold as cheap as let's say, mt. baker, just an example. I'm not saying that premium juices should be at a standard price level, but ALL OF THE OVERHEAD/PRODUCTION/WHATEVER COSTS has to be transferred to the price of what product is being sold.

Cool video. I've never tried 5pawns, I'll probably never buy them but cool stuff.

 

[PLANofMAN]

Haha dude no one is paying $60 for 30ml of eliquid. What are you talking about?

I think he's talking about your typo from yesterday.

 

[ScandaLeX]

I have tried nicoticket and personally not one of my favorites , when I ordered I was told to steep the liquids a few weeks .


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He tells everyone that; NT is FOTB but suggest steep only so more nuances of the juice come forth.


EDIT~ Not trying to sell you on the stuff. It's not for everyone & he has some juices I can't vape at all simply because I dont like that particular flavor.

 

[LMS62]

Haha dude no one is paying $60 for 30ml of eliquid. What are you talking about?

He's talking about a post YOU made just a few pages back. In the post YOU said you paid $60 for 30ml of juice. When called on it, you then claimed In a subsequent post you that it was a typo. Now you are asking "what are you talking about"? Seriously.....what's your deal?

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

He's talking about a post YOU made just a few pages back. In the post YOU said you paid $60 for 30ml of juice. When called on it, you then claimed In a subsequent post you that it was a typo. Now you are asking "what are you talking about"? Seriously.....what's your deal?

Hmm I don't recall

 

[PLANofMAN]

Hmm I don't recall

Maybe this will help you remember. Once a post is quoted, edits only change your post, not the quotes.

Actually, I get 30ml for $60 for one of my favorite companies.

Edit: Mods can come in and edit out all the snarky posts, though, including quoted examples. The Casey Jones Mainline Reserve thread is a good example. A number of your posts got removed, if I recall correctly.