Don’t stifle vaping

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By Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.)

Yes, I vape. On occasion, I might even smoke a real cigarette.

Through my military career, including three combat tours, I even experienced chewing tobacco.

Now that I vape, does it mean I am one step closer to dying than say, someone who might drink too much, eat too much red meat or live an all-around unhealthy lifestyle?

No way.

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By Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.)

Yes, I vape. On occasion, I might even smoke a real cigarette.

Through my military career, including three combat tours, I even experienced chewing tobacco.

Now that I vape, does it mean I am one step closer to dying than say, someone who might drink too much, eat too much red meat or live an all-around unhealthy lifestyle?

No way.

Don’t stifle vaping
I knew that Duncan Hunter is a sponsor of HR2058...
But I did not know that he vaped!

He is one of the good ones...
Duncan D. Hunter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is the representative from next door.
My representative is Darrel Issa, also one of the good ones.
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Woohoo! Representative Hunter! So proud of ya! :toast:

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He points out something that's not discussed around here. The FDA proposed rules do not refer to or depend on any science. Whether ecigs are safe or not or beneficial or not is irrelevent to everything the FDA has done so far. It's all threats and brinksmanship.

Rep Duncan didn't need to do this. There is a decent guy with principles in elected office after all.
 

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Rep Hunter's letter is excellent, and can really help our cause.
The public perception of vapers is kids and young people rebeling for it's own sake. There are also vapers who are vulnerable because of age, infirmity, limited income, limited mobility, psychiatric issues, etc. and may be some military vets too and all of them are trying to protect their health and save some money. Threatening to interfere with their vaping is cruel.
 

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From Rep. Hunter's article:

There are millions of Americans like me, who are choosing e-cigarettes over their traditional counterpart. Now the Food and Drug Administration wants to force me and millions of others to revert to cigarettes through the issuance of new regulations. What the FDA is proposing is a date of February 15, 2007, to require approval for e-cigarettes, even if they are already being sold.

Not so bad, right? Wrong.

To comply, any company that manufactures e-cigarettes must submit an application, to include test results on health risks.

Doesn’t sound so bad, right? Wrong again.

What comes after this in the article is very good points. I suggest everyone in the world read them, they are that good. But I quote this part cause the 'wrong' and 'wrong again' just tickle my fancy that a) anyone would say this and b) that a congress person is saying this, at this point in U.S. history.
 

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Duncan Hunter also sponsored an amendment to stop the DOD from prohibiting sales of tobacco on bases and ships.

Democrats on the committee objected to Hunter’s proposal.

Rep. Susan Davis (D., Calif.) said promoting health is just as important as military readiness, and that the Pentagon’s proposal is not telling military men and women “they can’t use tobacco.”

“I think we need to look at smoking cessation programs, we need to look at what’s out there now, and try and improve on those,” she said. “This is not telling people that they can’t use tobacco, clearly people can go across the street almost wherever they are and purchase that. But we are sending a kind of double message, I think, by not saying that we recognize tobacco can cause damage, not only to a sailor, but also to their family, second hand smoke we know is a concern.”

Hunter, who served three combat tours, two in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, said his fellow Marines deserve the right to buy cigarettes and take them to the battlefield.

“As somebody who used the exchanges and lived on base for a number of years at Camp Pendleton, we do use the exchanges almost purely for beer and tobacco,” he said. “The young Marines that go to war and fight for everybody in this room, they use those exchanges purely for tobacco, and some beer, sometimes water and Gatorades, little snacks to take to the field.”

“We sleep in the dirt for this country. We get shot at for this country. But we can’t have a cigarette if we want to for this country, because that’s unhealthy??” Hunter said.

“Well, I’ll tell you what. If you want to make us all healthy, then let’s outlaw war, because war is really dangerous,” Hunter added. “And it was bad for my health, and it’s bad for other people’s health. So if you truly want to make it so we’re all healthy, then we shouldn’t have a military at all, because that in and of itself is dangerous.”

The committee adopted Hunter’s amendment by a voice vote.

House Adopts Amendment to Protect Service Members’ Right to Tobacco
 

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Well the military is about readiness and it gets lots of discretion to decide the best way to do that and a smoke free military would be good for readiness but probably not if it's imposed. The military could get smart and be more permissive with ecigs and use their influence to get soldiers to switch and that might work and it would improve readiness without annoying the soldiers. Duncan might be a good role model for that.
 
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And another reminder from CASAA:

Last chance to participate in the CASAA E-Cigarette Survey - 2015. We need everyone who hasn't voted to PLEASE take the survey. Your voice counts!

We’ve added a few thousand new CASAA members and we want to make sure we’ve contacted everyone about this opportunity. We’re taking responses to our survey until 12:00 PM (EST) on Saturday, December 12th. After that, we’ll need to focus on preparing the data to present to OMB/OIRA next week.
 
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