Done With Blu

[jasonpascoe]

ok so blu helped me kick 25 years of smoking 2 packs of newports per day, but, its not cutting it.

formerly not interested in refilling cartridge/cartos, i am now convinced that it will be an improvement.

so, i saw some youtube clips about refilling the Blu cartos....but the blu battery(auto) leaves me wanting more as well.

ive decided i want a manual battery, and i am getting confused with all the different compatibility issues surrounding these products.

so......can someone with experience please post a link to a merchant that provides blank carto's and a good manual battery?

i have done some searching and found the website modernvapor to be very helpful. probably gonna go with that but,..they offer many diff types of battery.

i just want a nice fat hit, like when my blu battery/carto is fresh and new...it hits perfect, but that quality is rapidly diminished.

thank you for you help

 

[Murdock Ruml]

Ego and a LR 306 will give you an amazing TH. madvapes, among many others, has both. Give up on carts and start dripping.

 

[BadThad]

You should dump the commercial ecigs and move to a mod.....just MHO. Once you find a nice juicebox mod (I prefer wood) you'll never go back to regular ecigs. The upfront cost will be higher, but cost of operation will be cheaper and you'll be more satisfied with the vape you get. It's easy to justify the cost, it's like buying about 4 cartons of analogs to get started.

 

[madjack]

...if you wanna upgrade and not break the bank...for 6+-hrs batt life the Riva510s...30bux from liberty-flights.com
..an even better choice is the KG0 or E-Power from hoosierecigsupply...both of these are 42bux...the KGO is a 10-12+-hr proprietary 510styled batt(18bux replacements)...the E-Power(510threading) is slightly fatter, has non-propietary(5-9bux replacements) batts that drop in like a flashlite...any of them are good choices............
madjack

 

[hairball]

KGO at hoosierecigsupply.com. They are 510 threaded and hit a little harder than an ego/riva. Batteries last a longer time.

IMHO, go with a mod like the BuzzPro from notcigs.com. This will be the last PV you'll ever buy.

 

[jasonpascoe]

You should dump the commercial ecigs and move to a mod.....just MHO. Once you find a nice juicebox mod (I prefer wood) you'll never go back to regular ecigs. The upfront cost will be higher, but cost of operation will be cheaper and you'll be more satisfied with the vape you get. It's easy to justify the cost, it's like buying about 4 cartons of analogs to get started.

interesting, can you please elaborate on this juicebox you mentioned? forgive my ignorance, despite hours of research i remain confused heh.

 

[madjack]

KGO at hoosierecigsupply.com. They are 510 threaded and hit a little harder than an ego/riva. Batteries last a longer time.

IMHO, go with a mod like the BuzzPro from notcigs.com. This will be the last PV you'll ever buy.

...man, I would LOVE to have a BuzzPro but, with a double set of Powermizer batts(no charger), it's right at 175bux...just can't do that...I ordered the E-Power from CCV, with the extras in the bundle, its 55bux...added a pair of hi drain IMR 14750s and a 4 station TR003 charger from electronicstik.com and still under a Franklin...of course, I never expected to get up to that point as well...shux, I guess if you add in the 60bux spent on two Riva kits to start with, I would be near that price...oh well, decisions, decisions.............
madjack

 

[dormouse]

Blu has 510 threading (same as 306 threading) but its batteries and chargers are NOT compatible with 510 or 306. Blu is reverse electrical polarity. its charger will fry a 510, 510's charger will fry a Blu.

Best 510 threaded things...

Joye 510 manual (use with Blu cartos or Boge blank cartos, use a drip tip on teh atomizer to test juices and vape thicker juices) 180mah (double Blu charge but still short charge if you figure 100mah is about 1 hour of moderate vaping)

Joy 510 mega xl manual - 280mah and long (128mm with a cartomizer) but nice

next step up - fat battery models
(everything from here up can optionally use the hotter low resistance cartos and atomizers)

Joye Ego (650mah+ and 3.4v)

and I and many prefer

Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights.com because all of their kits are the latest 3.7v Rivas from the manufacturer that makes the 3.7v ones (press 20% off upper left front page, then look at the kits). It runs things abit hotter than Ego though near the end of the charge it may fall a bit below the Ego's 3.4v

And there are others like Vgo and Kgo

and beyond that are all of the 510 threaded mods from simple $20 plastic boxes handmade by ECF members to far true variable voltage mods and more
(I use a simple 3.7v box mod as well as a clone Ego "3-stage" battery from Gotvapes (3.2v which I never use, 3.7v, 4.2v which is more like 3.9v I hear)

So I use all of those except plain Ego. I use the 180mah manual Joye 510 w/ a nice PCC from NoSmokeVa.com, at home I use Joye 510 mega xl manual and Riva 510.

In addition I use a completely different model, the 3.7v slim mini KR808D-1 (manuals) from vapor4Life and SmokelessImge

 

[berto7987]

Hey Jason,

You are exactly where I was not too long ago. My first purchase was the Blu starter kit and thank God they had a 30 day guarantee. I would recommend one of two kits to purchase: the joye 510 if you like the smaller batteries that look and feel more like a cigarette OR the eGo-T if you want more battery life and a simple tank system that doesn't require the pain of refilling cartridges or cartomizers. Both have are manual batteries, are much cheaper than Blu cigs, and offer a great vaping experience. I am a fan of a number of websites but the one that I would recommend to you would be Liberty-Flights.com to get the kits I mentioned above. Quality products and fast and cheap shipping ($2.99). Here are the links for each starter kit:

Joye 510: Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye 510
eGo-T: Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye eGo
**make sure you use the coupon code "october20" to get 20% off your entire order.

The good thing about both of these units is that they accept the popular 510 atomizer/cartomizer threading. To answer your question about compatability, almost all batteries and mods have the capability of using the 510 which means that later down the road, if you want to move to big battery mods, box mods, etc., you can use the same atomizers/cartomizers.

At the same website from above you can purchase great priced blank cartomizers, cartridges, ejuice, and much more. (I have no affiliation with Liberty-Flights...I just like there business)

I am not an expert by an mean but I hope this helped and just post anymore questions you might have. Keep on vaping.

 

[Elitimus]

...man, I would LOVE to have a BuzzPro but, with a double set of Powermizer batts(no charger), it's right at 175bux...just can't do that...I ordered the E-Power from CCV, with the extras in the bundle, its 55bux...added a pair of hi drain IMR 14750s and a 4 station TR003 charger from electronicstik.com and still under a Franklin...of course, I never expected to get up to that point as well...shux, I guess if you add in the 60bux spent on two Riva kits to start with, I would be near that price...oh well, decisions, decisions.............madjack

The E-Power kit is about 10 bucks cheaper at gotvapes than ccv. just an fyi.

 

[Cokeybill]

I can't believe how members just blatantly go out of their way to push 1 or 2 vendors all the time. There are many vendors out there that sell the Riva and the Ego batts. Let's tell the OP that there is a 1000mah batt out there that will outlast the 650 mah. If the OP does buy a generic style batt, he might have more probs than an original Joye Ego batt. Give the OP an option of at least looking through the vendors area so he can decide where he wishes to buy his next PV and mods. Sheesh. Everyone has their favorite vendor and that's ok, but he just might think the one you use is not for him. To the OP there is a vendors area where you can check out what you might want. Go ahead and venture into the world of who's who.

 

[jasonpascoe]

im much less confused now, thank you all very much, i really appreciate your valuable opinions.

 

[madjack]

...comeon Bill, tell us...who really pi&&ed in your corn flakes...there are many dozens of vendors out there and personally, I look at all I know of or hear about, to see what kinda deals they offer on what products so, I can give the best info I can to someone, especially a newb seeking help...like you said, there are tons of vendors out there offering all sorts of gear under all sorts of names and that variety, while great for the experienced vaper, is absolutely overwhelming to the newbie. I see the job of those of us trying to help the newb is to try and sort that info into something digestible...to that end, I tend to offer advice based on price, performance and reputation...that goes for gear as well as vendors...I am not an "old"pro, just someone pretty good at research and interpretation...both my knowledge and consequentially my advice is constantly evolving and I see no end to that personal growth...so tell me Bill, WHO do you recommend?????
madjack

p.s. I also try to point folks to the Forum Supplier list and to note the vendors I mention are not the only ones out there..........mj

p.s.s. the above is not directed AT anyone but, merely my thoughts on what we do around here...besides vape........mj

 

[Cokeybill]

You got there by the same way I did... read posts, checked vendors and came up with my knowledge base. But, I always let the newb do the same as every newb should. Do his homework, take into considerations of members advice, read the posts and check out the vendors. Then it is his/her choice. That is why I don't push vendors to buy from...I only say if asked where the product came from. Sometimes, some become too agressive to tell of a vendor, when it is always about one's personal preference.(ie One person likes a juice, while it isn't another's cup of tea.) Just a common result when we get excited about a product and need to tell others and the others say ok, but mine's better? LOL

P.S- Didn't think that you would respond unless you feel guilty about something. Awful agressively defensive about a topic that didn't point you out directly. "Control is a frustrating thing when you haven't got it." I believe "Newman" (Seinfeld) said that.

 

[Crazy1Bob]

I thought really hard on starting with a Blu. I had a friend that bought a Blu a couple of years ago and It was really cool. Liked the taste and what not. But I did my research on here and decided against it due to short battery life and a limit on flavors.

I ended up with the Cig Easy Elite 808

I really liked it from these Reviews: The Elite 808 from CigEasy: a GREAT cigarillo-like PV!
and there was another one that SSV2 did, but i cant currently find it. Its listed in that review above, but its saying page not found. I have been happy with it so far.
A manual battery is something to get used to. It last me more than a whole day. But the flavor options are endless. Im loving it so far. Just wanted to throw another option out there for you to look at.

 

[kinabaloo]

If one gets the longer lasting batteries, an 808 can be a good PV to go with that still has a light, slim feel. If only have lunchtime and a couple of breaks at work, a good 808 will last through (or an evening out).

A rough guide to e-cig/battery capacities and typical-usage life between charges.

--- ~ 1cm diameter (slim) ---
Blu 90 mAh < 1hour
basic 510 / Mini / 4081 180 mAh < 2 hours
510** / 901 280 mAh 3 hours (Volt, 510XL)
Newer 808 380 mAh+ 4-5 hours

--- ~ 2cm diameter ---
10440 (AAA) 600 mAh 7 hours
14500 (AA) 900 mAh 11 hours (Ego-T, Riva) *

--- >2cm diameter ---
18650 upto 2500 mAh 24 hourrs (Provari)

* These models use proprietary batteries, but of a similar capacity.
** The small/original 510 (510/360 is also just a connector type, like 808/901).

Light use vapers could see much longer usage times between charges.

++++++++++++++++++++

Let's look in a bit more detail at the 14500 (AA sized) lithium battery (900 mAh version) :

1 x 14500 = 5 mini batteries.

3.7 average volts into a ~3 ohm atty/carto draws about 1.25 amps.
The battery would be able to provide this current for about 45 minutes; that's 500 five-second vapes; or 1,000 2.5-second puffs.

For a mini battery (such as basic 510) it would be 100 - 200 puffs.

 

[Alac]

--- ~ 1cm diameter (slim) ---
Mini / 4081 180 mAh < 2 hours
510** / 901 280 mAh 3 hours (Volt, Blu)
Newer 808 380 mAh+ 4-5 hours
--- ~ 2cm diameter ---
.

Basic 510 is 180 mAh
510XL is around a cm longer and 280 mAh
Volt is an 808 and rated at 260 and 320 (for 65mm and 78mm) my mAh on this might be wrong
Blu is a L88b, 510 thread but is only a 90 mAh battery

 

[kinabaloo]

Blu is a L88b, 510 thread but is only a 90 mAh battery

No kidding! NO wonder people hate it !

(I'll correct my post when I add to it - thanks)

 

[tippyclubb]

You got there by the same way I did... read posts, checked vendors and came up with my knowledge base. But, I always let the newb do the same as every newb should. Do his homework, take into considerations of members advice, read the posts and check out the vendors. Then it is his/her choice. That is why I don't push vendors to buy from...I only say if asked where the product came from. Sometimes, some become too agressive to tell of a vendor, when it is always about one's personal preference.(ie One person likes a juice, while it isn't another's cup of tea.) Just a common result when we get excited about a product and need to tell others and the others say ok, but mine's better? LOL

P.S- Didn't think that you would respond unless you feel guilty about something. Awful agressively defensive about a topic that didn't point you out directly. "Control is a frustrating thing when you haven't got it." I believe "Newman" (Seinfeld) said that.

As a new person to the forum I like it when people suggest different vendors because there are some vendors better than others, not to mention the fact there are some rip off artist out there too. I look at how many post a person has when they recommend a vendor and decide if they have enough experience and knowledge to suggest the most reputable dealers.

Being relatively new to the e-cig world is daunting and confusing. I've spent many hours reading this forum and still feel like I don't know much. Any suggestions at all are greatly appreciated, but in the end the ultimate decision is up to me. That is why I came to forum so I could make a good decision on buying my next e-cig--I take all suggestions into consideration and then do my research.

Theres another saying: You can lead a horse to the water but you can't make him drink it.

1022 post vs. 99 ????

 

[kinabaloo]

MadJack mentions a variety of vendors and they are commonly referenced, so I think it quite different from pushing just one vendor regardless; it is aimed at the situation of the asker, who often near enough demands such specific vendor info.

To the extent that the complaint is valid (and I have some sympathy with it), it's neither realistic nor ultimately useful; and certainly, i think, aimed at the wrong person.