Doubting newbie

[Chanel]

I only found out about the e-cigarette a few days ago.
I've been researching the cigarette ever since and found mixed opinions.
I've been reading about 15 posts here and everybody seems so happy with their choice.

In general some say e-smoking is healthier than real cigarettes, others think they hold a risk. Canada is even trying to ban them.

So I've been thinking of ordering a sample pack, if I can find one.
I don't want to plunge right in and order something with a charger and batteries because if I don't like it, then what?

I wonder though how it works. If no nicotine enters the body, then how can an e-cig be satisfying?

 

[Rosa]

oH, the nicotine gets into the system for sure. I've been vaping for a couple of weeks now an have been able to quit my 25 year cigarette habit. As far as the conflicting information you've read, I've read a bunch of it too and here's what it reads like to me; the pro-vaping group says there's no proof yet that these things are bad for you and we know for sure that cigarettes will kill you, so what's the big deal (if you are already smoking cigarettes you are going to die, why not try something new?) AND some studies even show that the PG (that's the stuff used in most liquids) is not only not bad for you but may even be good for you! (studies have shown that having PG in your system can prevent you from catching the flu and also prevent you from having major difficulties in healing if you were ever to have a stroke someday as it seems to help in the prevention of tissue damage from a lack of oxygen). So there's that. On the other side are the anti-vaping articles saying basically, "don't vape because we don't know for sure what the long term effects are". In my opinion this is one instance where the devil you know (cigarettes) is NOT better than the devil you don't know (vaping). Or as one members signature says: (not an exact quote) "Banning e-cig's because were not sure what's in them is like telling a drowning swimmer not to get in the raft because it might have a leak"

 

[Kent C]

I only found out about the e-cigarette a few days ago.
I've been researching the cigarette ever since and found mixed opinions.
I've been reading about 15 posts here and everybody seems so happy with their choice.

In general some say e-smoking is healthier than real cigarettes, others think they hold a risk. Canada is even trying to ban them.

So I've been thinking of ordering a sample pack, if I can find one.
I don't want to plunge right in and order something with a charger and batteries because if I don't like it, then what?

I wonder though how it works. If no nicotine enters the body, then how can an e-cig be satisfying?

Nicotine is aborbed into the body through the lungs. There is nicotine in the eliquids that are vaporized, taken into the lungs, etc. etc.

A good cheap way to start would be a disposable - although it has a charger but it is one ecig with some cartridges. They have them in regular tobacco-like flavor and in menthol:

510 Regular Flavor
510 Menthol Flavor

 

[Sherrick]

Welcome to the forum Chanel. There is a lot of lively discussion here about the potential health issues associated with vaping, with folks having a variety of opinions. What most of us seem to agree on is that we feel better when vaping than we did while smoking, and that a lot of folks have seen very positive changes in their medical profiles after moving from smoking to the e-cig. There may indeed be health risks involved with the e-cig. It is a fairly new technology and the long term effects of vaping have not been studied. The other side of that coin is that there is proof that cigarettes are extremely detrimental to good health and we take in far fewer questionable or known bad substances using e-cigs in comparison to analog (traditional) cigarettes.

I'm not sure why you think that no nicotine enters the body with e-cigs. I'd say that you are not properly informed on that issue. Some people choose not to have nicotine in the liquids or cartomizers they use, but most folks do have some level of nicotine included in their standard vapes. You can choose what level of nicotine you want to use, from 0 to 36mg or higher. If you choose to have nicotine in your products, your body is almost certainly taking that nicotine into your system.

More than likely more folks will chime in shortly in response to your questions. Hope you find what works for you.

Sherrick

 

[Rosa]

besides that: IF it was true that the nicotine isn't even getting into our systems (which just can't be true BTW) than I don't mind really either way. All the better I say! I read too many posts of people quitting life-long smoking habits by vaping that it really makes no difference to me if there's nicotine in it or not. I quit smoking and my wet cough stopped as soon as I started vaping, that's all that matters to me. And if it turns out they're bad for you: so be it, I was going to die from smoking anyway.

 

[jaxx]

I agree with the disposables that Kent C mentioned.

 

[5cardstud]

Alls I can tell you is I smoked for cose to 50 yrs. Tried every darn thing they have to quit and didn't. I got an e-cig and haven't had another .... since. I get nicotine from my PV. I told someone once that wanted me to get one for them that maybe it won't work on them. Their response was if a person can't stop with an e-cig they didn't really want to quit in the first place. The reason the bans are going on is because they're losing alot of revenue from all the butts that aren't being sold.

 

[Rosa]

Alls I can tell you is I smoked for cose to 50 yrs. Tried every darn thing they have to quit and didn't. I got an e-cig and haven't had another .... since. I get nicotine from my PV. I told someone once that wanted me to get one for them that maybe it won't work on them. Their response was if a person can't stop with an e-cig they didn't really want to quit in the first place. The reason the bans are going on is because they're losing alot of revenue from all the butts that aren't being sold.

That's right. If the tobacco industry can't make money from it and the big Pharmacuticals can't make money on it, politicians are being paid by someone to make it stop. I firmly believe that.

 

[smokin n jokin]

Instead of buying a disposable I would buy a USB passthrough and some cartomizers. That way if you decide to stay with it your money won't be "disposable"

 

[LukeNM]

Where did you read or hear this?

I wonder though how it works. If no nicotine enters the body, then how can an e-cig be satisfying?

 

[candre23]

I wonder though how it works. If no nicotine enters the body, then how can an e-cig be satisfying?

Oh, you're definitely getting nicotine. If I'm not paying attention and vape too much, I get the same head rush and fast heartbeat that you get from smoking a real cig too fast. It usually only happens when, like I said, I'm not paying attention, so it can't be a placebo effect.

 

[Mr.Frost]

I wonder though how it works. If no nicotine enters the body, then how can an e-cig be satisfying?

Heres how it works:

Imagine a AA Battery(like in a camera), now take a small bulb like a christmas bulb and touch the end. connect a wire from the negative side of the battery to the positive side of the bulb and it lights up right?

The filament inside heats up but doesn't catch fire right?

Now take a small sponge moistened with water and put it up against the bulb. The water from the sponge is turned to steam(or Vapor) and now add a small mouth piece to comfortabley inhale the vapor.

The liquid used to make the vapor consists of a few compounds, one of these is Nicotine.

Inhaling the vapor allows your lungs to absorb the Nicotine with out the many other harmful chemicals found in traditional cigarettes which occur as a byproduct of the cumbustion process.


Although I could be wrong.

Frost

 

[Johnny Vox]

I started vaping 2 weeks ago today, and have had about a pack of tobacco cigarettes since then(from 2 packs a day prior.) I agree with Rosa about the possible health risks and the "possibly leaky liferaft" is a pretty good analogy. We already know that tobacco cigarettes are ridiculously bad for you, but from the information available e-cigarettes seem to be pretty much harmless, and there is nothing other than speculation that suggests otherwise.

As for them being satisfying, I feel like my nicotine addiction is being fed 100%. The habit of holding and smoking a cigarette is only at....oh, lets say 50%, but that's good enough for me. I mean, it's not like I smoke my e-cig and suddenly think "Gosh! I would have sworn I was smoking tobacco!"

Since getting my e-cig and all but quitting tobacco cigarettes, I feel like I have more energy and breathe better, but what surprised me is that for the past two weeks I've just been in an all-around better mood.

Also, for the record, I went with the SS Choice No. 7 micro e-cig. I'm pretty happy with it as it is the only one i've tried, but I plan to purchase a Joye pretty soon because of all the good things I've read about them.

 

[matt_2250]

Instead of buying a disposable I would buy a USB passthrough and some cartomizers. That way if you decide to stay with it your money won't be "disposable"

That is a particulary fantastic idea. I wish someone had suggested that to me when I started vaping.

 

[Chanel]

Whow thanks for all the replies everyone, this sure is encouraging.
I assume everyone here is from the United States?
I'm in Canada and I actually found two or three stores that carry e-cigarettes in my neighborhood, so I'm gonna call them tomorrow and order a sample pack or some disposable cigs. I want to try this.
Too bad though that we still can't smoke at work or in public places. I've read some posts of people who were shown the door in bars and restaurants.

You'll probably read more posts from me once I've got the goods.

Oh and by the way, is it really true that e-cigs are so much cheaper?

 

[SuZamme]

I don't know what a 510 kit will cost you in Canada.

I got mine from cignot.com in October 2009 for $35. and I am still using the same batteries and atomizers.

Even though it wasn't necessary, I have since added more hardware and juice. That, in my opinion, is the beauty of the 510...you can add more or not AND get the added benefit of great vaping and cheap refilling with a zillion different flavors to suit your tastes and/or whims.

It's great that you are ready to let go of analogs. Vaping is definately a healthier, cheaper, and tastier way to go and we get to keep the "act of smoking".

Vape On!!!!

 

[Mr.Frost]

The initial investment may seem high, but I believe people who have started using the E-cigs are finding they are saving money over time.

This coupled with the fact that they avoid smoking traditional cigarettes(which we all know are killing us) is a greater savings than can have a price put on it.


Frost

 

[vip0802]

Oh and by the way, is it really true that e-cigs are so much cheaper?

welcome to the forum!

up front it might not seem like it is, but in the end it definitely is.

i'm not sure how much a pack of cigs are in Toronto, but my brand ranges from $7-8 USD so per week, i was spending $49-56. i would say most people vape around 10-30ml of e-juice per week and that ranges from maybe $6-15 (more or less) depending on the type of juice and vendor.

of course this doesn't include the cost of the initial kit, attys, carts and so on, but you get the general idea.

then again, i don't think you can put a price on your well being either.

best of luck to you!

 

[vip0802]

This coupled with the fact that they avoid smoking traditional cigarettes(which we all know are killing us) is a greater savings than can have a price put on it.


Frost

well said, Frost!

btw, i totally did not see your post when i replied above.

 

[Chanel]

Just one quick question ... how do you get that "I have been Vaping for ..." siggie under your name?