you should be able to click on it, and you can fill out your own sign.
i don't think you can do signatures until you reach 10 or 15 posts though.
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you should be able to click on it, and you can fill out your own sign.
i don't think you can do signatures until you reach 10 or 15 posts though.
well said, Frost!
btw, i totally did not see your post when i replied above.
Spooky!
I think you can grab the sig by clicking on it, although you may need a certain amount of posts or something.
Frost
edit: wow double spooky!
Thank you for that info. Signing off now, 2:30 a.m. and time to go to bed.
HAGN all.
HAGN all.
Chanel, What have you got to lose by trying it? Analogs will still be there if you don't like it.
I started using e cigs and had no intention of quitting. I just wanted a way to cut down on analogs. Needless to say (if my signature box is working below); I quit a 35 year pack and a half a day habit in less than 3 weeks. Not everyone quits analogs completely with e cigs but most do.
My wife has quit in the last few weeks using e cig and she says she doesn't even care if she has an e cig or not at this point. She has smoked for nearly 40 years.
I have 6 of my friends that started useing e cigs recently, all of them have lowered their analog intake by more than 50% (some more than that) in less than 2 weeks.
The price of a good PV, Batteries, charger and a 2 month supply of juice will cost you less than 2 months of analogs.
It certainly can't be any more harmful than analogs, They taste wayyyyy better than analogs (may I recommend the coffee flavor juice. my favorite of the week.), and most of the non smokers I have talked to about them think they are absolutly great by comparison to analogs.
I say GO FOR IT!
I started using e cigs and had no intention of quitting. I just wanted a way to cut down on analogs. Needless to say (if my signature box is working below); I quit a 35 year pack and a half a day habit in less than 3 weeks. Not everyone quits analogs completely with e cigs but most do.
My wife has quit in the last few weeks using e cig and she says she doesn't even care if she has an e cig or not at this point. She has smoked for nearly 40 years.
I have 6 of my friends that started useing e cigs recently, all of them have lowered their analog intake by more than 50% (some more than that) in less than 2 weeks.
The price of a good PV, Batteries, charger and a 2 month supply of juice will cost you less than 2 months of analogs.
It certainly can't be any more harmful than analogs, They taste wayyyyy better than analogs (may I recommend the coffee flavor juice. my favorite of the week.), and most of the non smokers I have talked to about them think they are absolutly great by comparison to analogs.
I say GO FOR IT!
Hi Chanel .. (i want one of those J12 ceramic watches that you make ! )
Just to popping in to give my 2 cents worth.
I Spent about $200 US to start vaping, but I could have easily gotten everything I truly needed for $100 or less.
If you get the bare essentials (2 full E-cigs and a way to charge them) that hardware will last you a while... at that point Vaping will cost you Around $30 a month in juice if you tend to use it as much as most. Compared to my previous $150 a month (or more) habit I can save tons of money this way... as long as I resist the urge for more toys (VERY HARD to do)
On the Medical Side this is what I can tell you. I am not a researcher in the field of toxicoligy, but I have a doctor of pharmacy degree (Pharm.D & R.Ph) so I do know more than most about the human body and how things get in and out.
VG:
H H H
| | |
HO--C--C--C--OH
| | |
H OH H
PG:
H H H
| | |
OH--C--C--C--H
| | |
H OH H
One of the most important ways the body gets rid of toxins is through the liver (Cytrochrome 450 or CYP enzymes for short)
the way that the CYP system works is that there are tons of different kinds of enzymes in the liver that will "fit" all kinds of "Poisons" you take in. The liver takes these "poisons" and either breaks them into smaller pieces or else it attaches things like -OH onto the ends of them (or commonly, Both).
The reason the liver does this is to make the "poisons" better able to dissolve in water so that they can be passed out of the body by the kidneys.
Knowing just that one piece of information, and then looking at the chemical structure of PG and VG, you can see that they are already small molecules, and they they already have lots of -OH's on them. This means that these things take relatively little work for the body to get rid of, Which means that there is a "Low" chance for them to build up in the body and cause toxic effect.
Low is in quotations because honestly without doing true clinical work its very hard to have qualatative answer. In my Honest and True opinion as a health care worker, I think that vaping will cause less damage to the human body than smoking.
That however is the "act" of vaping pure PG / VG... the variable here is what else is in the vapor besides PG / VG ... Nicotine being primary.
It is also my opinion that many vapers take in MORE nicotine then when they were smokers... but that isn't really what this thread was about hehe.
Grim
edit... awww, my ASCII molecules turned out ugly but oh well
Just to popping in to give my 2 cents worth.
I Spent about $200 US to start vaping, but I could have easily gotten everything I truly needed for $100 or less.
If you get the bare essentials (2 full E-cigs and a way to charge them) that hardware will last you a while... at that point Vaping will cost you Around $30 a month in juice if you tend to use it as much as most. Compared to my previous $150 a month (or more) habit I can save tons of money this way... as long as I resist the urge for more toys (VERY HARD to do)
On the Medical Side this is what I can tell you. I am not a researcher in the field of toxicoligy, but I have a doctor of pharmacy degree (Pharm.D & R.Ph) so I do know more than most about the human body and how things get in and out.
VG:
H H H
| | |
HO--C--C--C--OH
| | |
H OH H
PG:
H H H
| | |
OH--C--C--C--H
| | |
H OH H
One of the most important ways the body gets rid of toxins is through the liver (Cytrochrome 450 or CYP enzymes for short)
the way that the CYP system works is that there are tons of different kinds of enzymes in the liver that will "fit" all kinds of "Poisons" you take in. The liver takes these "poisons" and either breaks them into smaller pieces or else it attaches things like -OH onto the ends of them (or commonly, Both).
The reason the liver does this is to make the "poisons" better able to dissolve in water so that they can be passed out of the body by the kidneys.
Knowing just that one piece of information, and then looking at the chemical structure of PG and VG, you can see that they are already small molecules, and they they already have lots of -OH's on them. This means that these things take relatively little work for the body to get rid of, Which means that there is a "Low" chance for them to build up in the body and cause toxic effect.
Low is in quotations because honestly without doing true clinical work its very hard to have qualatative answer. In my Honest and True opinion as a health care worker, I think that vaping will cause less damage to the human body than smoking.
That however is the "act" of vaping pure PG / VG... the variable here is what else is in the vapor besides PG / VG ... Nicotine being primary.
It is also my opinion that many vapers take in MORE nicotine then when they were smokers... but that isn't really what this thread was about hehe.
Grim
edit... awww, my ASCII molecules turned out ugly but oh well
You can get really good prices if you shop around. My initial investment was 50 dollars on a Joye 510 and I estimate It could have lasted 3 months.
That's not even a week's cost in cigarettes at 1+ pack a day.
I truly believe vaping is a much safer alternative.
I suggest you figure out what your real needs are for smoking and continue to troll the forum for the right device for you. Then shop around for great prices and take that plunge. You wont regret it, even if you do find it's not for you.
One more word of advice. If you enjoy Vaping while you continue to smoke don't consider that a failure. It took me 3 months before I really felt comfortable vaping 100% and I still have an occasional cigarette when stress hits hard.
That's not even a week's cost in cigarettes at 1+ pack a day.
I truly believe vaping is a much safer alternative.
I suggest you figure out what your real needs are for smoking and continue to troll the forum for the right device for you. Then shop around for great prices and take that plunge. You wont regret it, even if you do find it's not for you.
One more word of advice. If you enjoy Vaping while you continue to smoke don't consider that a failure. It took me 3 months before I really felt comfortable vaping 100% and I still have an occasional cigarette when stress hits hard.
Hi Chanel & welcome to the forum! I just wanted to say something about something you mentioned in your initial post about vaping inside. I vape at my desk all day and have never had a problem. Also I could never smoke in my house before, and now I vape inside all the time. Most places it's not an issue, although I haven't tested it out in too many public places for fear of getting nasty looks from people! lol Anyway I wish you luck with this and hope it works out for you.
Hi Chanel & welcome to ECF......
Be sure to join us fellow Canucks here on ECF in our own lil sub forum here: Canadian Members and gain insite on hookups for Canadian suppliers along with their discount codes.
SeeYa over yonder.......
VapeOn,
Greg
Be sure to join us fellow Canucks here on ECF in our own lil sub forum here: Canadian Members and gain insite on hookups for Canadian suppliers along with their discount codes.
SeeYa over yonder.......
VapeOn,
Greg
Definitely true.
Possibly true. But even if e-cigarettes are harmful to your health, it is indisputable that the harm done is orders of magnitude less than the harm done by traditional cigarettes.
Saying that e-cigarettes are not a safe alternative to real cigarettes is kind of like saying that sober driving is not a safe alternative to drunk driving. While it may be technically true, it's very misleading.
Get yourself a screwdriver starter kit from totally wicked for $99.99. If you don't like it, you're only out a hundred bucks. How many times in your life have you blown a c-note on useless crap that you didn't really want or need? I have done so many times, and therefore really couldn't justify not taking a chance on a product that could possibly add years to my lifespan.
I don't know where you got this idea. The first few days I was on the e-cig, I actually got a little too much nicotine.
I just did and posted a message where I can find e.cigs in Toronto. I know I can order them on-line but then there's always shipping and handling to pay and there may be a long waiting time.
How do all of you get your e.smokes?
Do you have good experiences with ordering on-line?
The one store that I contacted doesn't have sample packs, which is what I would really like to try before jumping in. After all, how do I know which strength to go for?
In cigarettes I smoke the Macdonald Special. Not the lights, the regular cigarettes. So what can you recommend?
Sorry, Grimtooth, but you must have me confused with someone else. Unfortunately I don't make ceramic watches.
Thanks for the tip on the USB passthrough Curiousjan.
I have no idea what it is, but I'll find out.
I have no idea what it is, but I'll find out.
You're welcome!
It does the same work as a battery would ... it provides the necessary power to heat the atty/carto. It plugs into a USB port (either on your computer, on a small USB hub that plugs into the wall, or a USB-whatever adapter - I have a 12V-USB adapter that I use in the car to run my passthrough.)
Going with the passthrough allows you to spend minimal money (only thing cheaper is going to be a disposible e-cig) and give vaping a try. If you like it you can buy a starter kit and more liquid/cartos. If not you're not out too terribly much of an investment.
Jan
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Hi Chanel and Welcome to ECF!! Congratulations on your decision to try out vaping.
I sincerely hope it works for you. I agree with several posts about trying out a diposable first - but remember there is a learning curve to using an e-cig in order to
get the most satisfaction. There are many "sticky's" on this forum that explain that in detail and give sound advice. One thing you might consider: a tradional pack of cigarettes contains approx. 22mg. of nicotine. One e-cig. cartridge "can equal" a pack of traditional cigarettes depending on what brand you buy and your personal vaping style. So it is up to you if you want to try and "match" that nicotine content at first and then taper down later or start out with less. I was a 2-pk a day smoker for forty years - I tried an e-cig and have not turned back - going on 2 1/2 months now, tobacco free and feeling great. I have always used 16mg. cartridges and they work well for me. But again, it is a personal preference. Best of luck to you!
I sincerely hope it works for you. I agree with several posts about trying out a diposable first - but remember there is a learning curve to using an e-cig in order to
get the most satisfaction. There are many "sticky's" on this forum that explain that in detail and give sound advice. One thing you might consider: a tradional pack of cigarettes contains approx. 22mg. of nicotine. One e-cig. cartridge "can equal" a pack of traditional cigarettes depending on what brand you buy and your personal vaping style. So it is up to you if you want to try and "match" that nicotine content at first and then taper down later or start out with less. I was a 2-pk a day smoker for forty years - I tried an e-cig and have not turned back - going on 2 1/2 months now, tobacco free and feeling great. I have always used 16mg. cartridges and they work well for me. But again, it is a personal preference. Best of luck to you!
I'm gonna have to look at those sticky's D103, I didn't know about a learning curve. I thought vaping was the same as smoking.
I have been in touch with Jake for an informative talk and we will finalize my order later tonight.
If so many of you were able to make the switch, I hope I can too.
I have been in touch with Jake for an informative talk and we will finalize my order later tonight.
If so many of you were able to make the switch, I hope I can too.
It's the first thing you have to learn about vaping: It's not smoking. It tastes differently, you have to draw in the vape differently, all the stuff around it is differently (although PVs have been lighted and thrown out of the car window, it's not recommended ).
It's a lot better than smoking, actually, but there is definitely a learning curve, although a very managable one.
And that's btw one reason I strongly recommend not getting white PVs with red lights.
). It's a lot better than smoking, actually, but there is definitely a learning curve, although a very managable one.
And that's btw one reason I strongly recommend not getting white PVs with red lights.
I guess I'll know more once I actually have something.
In the meantime all I can do is read up about it.
Thanks anyway.
In the meantime all I can do is read up about it.
Thanks anyway.
I agree there is a learning curve some difference than analogs..analogs over 40 years.Cannot stand to be around people that smoke,never bothers me before and now I cannot stand the smell...Love this vaping...Like what was posted here there is a learning curve...You will develope a routine , It has become second nature to me...A lot members on here has helped me alot...WECOME TO VAPOR WORLD!!GOOD LUCK!!
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