People in New Jersey don't like Lautenberg anyway he won't win his re-election. I'll be surprised if he does.
Dr. Michael Siegel Calls Possible E Cig Ban a TRAGEDY
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I'm not really sure where to post this so I guess I will post it here. Dr. Michael Siegel author of The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary will be doing a live chat for vapersplace.com on Sunday November 1st at 7:00pm est. It will be a one hour chat where he will do a Q&A. I encourage everyone to come and at least thank the doctor for all he is doing for us. Thanks.
Dr. Siegel is one of the good guys. I may not agree with some of his stances on smoking bans, but he is reasonable.
Wow--this is exciting! In fact, it's so exciting, I think you ought to post it in a separate thread so it doesn't get lost.
Many thanks to vapersplace for putting this together. I will definitely be there. Dr. Siegel has been a voice of reason in the e-cig debate, and I will definitely be there to thank him and to hang on his every word.
Everything he wrote makes perfect sense. 15 years of smoking a pack and a half a day, and I gave it up for vaping in less than a week... never tried patches or gum because it seemed too expensive and honestly, I liked the act and rituals of smoking... vaping does all that without trying to kill me.
The more I think about the ban in progress, the angrier I get.
The more I think about the ban in progress, the angrier I get.
I smoked a pack a day for over 20 years and the day I got my first e-cigarette is the last day I ever smoked an analog. I also wanted to quit smoking but not the act and rituals of smoking.
I'll stick my neck out and say that while I'm wholeheartedly opposed to banning e-cigs I'm also in favor of nicotine juice having to be ingredient-labeled, just as health food supplements and thousands of other things we consume are. I really don't know where the juice I order is manufactured, or under what conditions of cleanliness, or what is used in making it. I know analogs are no good for me because of the tar and chemicals in them, but I really can't say with any certainty that what I'm buying for my 510 is free of impurities or made with pharmaceutical grade glycol or glycerin.
The industry is very young, and most of the supplies, it seems, are still made overseas. I don't want to see this taken away just as I'm getting into it with high hopes, but at the same time I'd like to know that what I'm vaporizing contains only the stuff I'd welcome into my body. So, if that makes me sound willing to have some sort of regulation of the industry, so be it. Anyone can put on their label or web site a statement that something is made to "the highest standards", but really, at this time there are not really any standards as far as I can tell.
The industry is very young, and most of the supplies, it seems, are still made overseas. I don't want to see this taken away just as I'm getting into it with high hopes, but at the same time I'd like to know that what I'm vaporizing contains only the stuff I'd welcome into my body. So, if that makes me sound willing to have some sort of regulation of the industry, so be it. Anyone can put on their label or web site a statement that something is made to "the highest standards", but really, at this time there are not really any standards as far as I can tell.
And don't forget, some people are just MEAN! Just try to buck 'em, we soon find out who the mean ones are. Downright NASTY.
I still love Dr. Siegel the best, but I love all you as well. So nice to see more good stuff coming out. What ever is coming down the road, I still see a glimmer of hope also will be coming out of China, as well. There's a process going on to apply for approval to FDA with the Dekang
Company, so give it some time. They supply an awful lot of e-juice, about 90% world-wide, that would be huge if they can accomplish it. May take a few years (OH I hope not!) but I believe it will happen.
I would post it in a separate thread but I really don't know where to post it....and I don't want ecf to think I'm spamming or anything like that and get booted from here.....lots of good info on ecf and I want to be able to remain a member....I even put a link to ecf on the website....I just want to get the word out about the chat with Dr. Siegel because I think people would be interested in it.Wow--this is exciting! In fact, it's so exciting, I think you ought to post it in a separate thread so it doesn't get lost.
Many thanks to vapersplace for putting this together. I will definitely be there. Dr. Siegel has been a voice of reason in the e-cig debate, and I will definitely be there to thank him and to hang on his every word.
Interestingly enough ...
If the FDA was given authority to regulate the nicotine-yield of tobacco products, (but explicitly prohibited from requiring a nicotine-yield of zero), then neither the presence of nicotine in a tobacco product, nor any implied intent of the presence of nicotine in a tobacco product, can be used as the basis of classifying a tobacco product a drug.
Contact Smokey Joe directly, explain your position and your hosting of this event. I cannot speak for him, but he is usually VERY willing to help out regarding anything to do with progressing the communities position and educating.
It should definitely be a stickied thread somewhere!
You me and the rest of the crowd here, seems a ton of states are on the bandwagon to snuff out vaping but imposing draconian anti smoking laws. Seems the law makers who WE voted for want to tax us without fair representation. They just cannot figure out how.
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