Dream mod + frustration

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P4C0

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Hello, unfortunately I'm back to analogs. My 510 PT just died again (this was the 3rd one) I don't want to order another they just don't last as long as they should.

My 510 batteries are all dead, they last like 10 puff or so before recharge, so I can't vape at the moment :(

I think that what I really need is a Bartleby or Janty Stick.

Some cons:

Janty Stick:
1. I'm not sure if it will work with 510 atty (do I need an adapter?)
2. They use cheap 360mAh (which I suppose will die fast and have a short life)

Bartleby:
1. They author hasn't reply to my emails, not sure if he still makes them
2. 14500 battery, 900mAh?

What I really want is a similar device for the 510 that use 18650 batteries (2600mAh) and that acts like a usb PT/charger. I believe that will be the ultimate mod...

The tricky part is the usb/charger/PT, googling around I found that to charge a lithium battery you need to do it on stages, so that'll need a PCB right? or is it ok to just apply the 5v from the usb and let the internal protection do its job? :D

I'm desperate, does anyone knows if something like this exits already?
 

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This is what got me off analogs for good. It's a mod I ceated and built that uses regular rechargable batteries and is small. I am testing it with a 510 today (just got the 510 atomizer in the mail) and the testing is looking good so far. I originally designed it with the 901 atomizer which works fantastic with over a day and nights worth of vaping on one set of batteries. Batteries can be charged in 15 minutes with a 15 minute charger.

Give it s look here if you like... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/105465-now-puck-cheap-parts-easy.html

I wouldn't post it if it hasn't worked for me. It's pretty easy to build.
 

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1. I'm not sure if it will work with 510 atty (do I need an adapter?)
2. They use cheap 360mAh (which I suppose will die fast and have a short life)

1. You will need an adapter to use the 510 atomizer on the 302/801 Battery connection of the stick.
2. I had some Trustfire 3.7v 600mAh 10440 batteries laying around and they work in my Joye Stick.
 

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I suggest building a usb charging box mod yourself, it is easy if you take some time. I hope you still have a 510 passthrough, working or not, because you will need it. I am going to type this from memory because I haven't built one of these for a while. I'm sure someone will drop in and correct my mistakes if I forgot something.

Buy a box and a switch from radioshack (or order one online) and get yourself a battery. I used a 3.7v battery from a cell phone and an eclipse mints tin, but you don't have to go that route. Take the screws out of the battery box and open it up. Remove the contacts that held the battery in with a hot soldering iron. Do the same with the wires that connect to either side of the circuit board and remove it from the box.

You are going to want to solder new wires to the side of the board that had the usb plug on it and connect them to some type of port for charging. I use a female RCA jack. It makes a nice clean and secure connection.

Then you need to connect wires to the holes in the circuit board that held the battery. Solder the other ends of the wires to the battery contacts you will be using, or if you went with the cell phone battery then you can solder directly to the little golden tabs on the battery themselves. I believe that it is usually the two outside ones.

You will then solder a wire from the same contact you used for the positive side of the battery and connect it to one lead of the switch. You then connect another wire to the other end of the switch and then the center post of the atty connector.

Next run a wire from the negative battery contact to the outside shell of the atty connector. You should then have a working PV.

Solder the male end of a RCA jack to the red and black wires from a USB cable and you have got your charger.

How you decide to fit it into the box and what battery to use is totally up to you.

Sorry if this seems a tad confusing, but I assure you it is incredibly easy and will work great! If you or anyone else who wants to do this just send me a PM and I will try to talk you through it. Good luck and keep on vaping!

P.S. If anyone is truly interested in it, and are willing to donate supplies (I'm broke! LOL) I would be willing to make a step by step guide with photos.

EDIT: I also know a way to make a GREAT usb charging mod using a 510 PCC. I'm not sure if there are already tutorials on here for these because I kind of stumbled on them on my own, but if not and someone will donate a PCC (the case can be damaged, but the electronics and battery must still work) I would be willing to do a tutorial on that too.
 
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Thanks @jctennis,

I think I'll try to make my own after all, I'll try to avoid the usb part, if those 18650 are as good as anyone say (1 day of heavy vaping + 1 year of lifetime) maybe there's no need.

Is there any thread about led wiring?

@ThePuck nice mod, I wonder if it will be possible to make the battery part detachable so you can put other types of batteries on it ;) your led is interesting ;)
 

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Thanks @jctennis,

I think I'll try to make my own after all, I'll try to avoid the usb part, if those 18650 are as good as anyone say (1 day of heavy vaping + 1 year of lifetime) maybe there's no need.

Is there any thread about led wiring?

@ThePuck nice mod, I wonder if it will be possible to make the battery part detachable so you can put other types of batteries on it ;) your led is interesting ;)

Nothing is out of the question with this mod. You could make the battery box detachable with a simple connector. It may not be as easy to build but it can be done. I already have a picture in my mind. It's a really good idea you have there.

LED: I couldn't find anyone in the states that sold these things. Any color changing LEDs I could find in the states are fast changing colors (real fast) but I wanted slow changing colors. I found them in China and ordered me some.
 

jctennis

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glad to help. As far as LED's are concerned, they are a piece of cake. If you want to have the LED light up when you press the button you will need to wire it after the button and before the atty connector.

You will need a 470 ohm resistor to keep the LED from burning out. When you get the LED check it by touching the LED leads to both the + and - terminals on a battery. They will only work one way. When you have that figured out solder the + LED lead to one side of your resistor. Connect the other lead from the resister and connect it to the lead on the button that runs to the atty connector.

You will then need to solder the - lead of the LED to either the - battery connection, or the outer shell of the atty connector (whichever is more conveniently located to where you want it.

I should have told you that on the last post, but I already wrote a book, and I never use them anymore. I like the "stealth" look of no LED's.

If you run into any trouble with your mod, just holler.
 

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If you love the 510, eGo might be the kick for you. Large mAh batt with 1.5 hour quick charge and the all-day-sucker life.

I have both the JStick and Bartleby for 801 use and went to the Bartleby only because I wanted more batt life than the 10400 gives. But, the 10400 I have are all still working fine and they are a year old.
 

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@ThePuck thanks, I'm not even in the US, so it's all a bit difficult for me... the best will be to find a place where I can buy all I need (so only one shipping). Well batteries and charge will have to be from other place... almost for sure...

@jctennis The idea of the led is just to make sure my batteries are the one dying and not the atty :p

@nubee I thought about that, but I think I'll give it a try and make my own...

Another problem is the connection of the 18650... I don't feel comfortable soldering wires to it... maybe I can use the ones of my PT and add enough spacers (cork, plastic) to fill the gap inside the box...

For holding the atty connector in place, what do you usually use? epoxy? hot glue gun?

What about two 18650 in parallel? that will be a huge box... right? maybe not a good idea...

Anyways, if someone know a place where I can order as much stuff as I need please let me know!
 

jctennis

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@ThePuck thanks, I'm not even in the US, so it's all a bit difficult for me... the best will be to find a place where I can buy all I need (so only one shipping). Well batteries and charge will have to be from other place... almost for sure...

@jctennis The idea of the led is just to make sure my batteries are the one dying and not the atty :p

@nubee I thought about that, but I think I'll give it a try and make my own...

Another problem is the connection of the 18650... I don't feel comfortable soldering wires to it... maybe I can use the ones of my PT and add enough spacers (cork, plastic) to fill the gap inside the box...

For holding the atty connector in place, what do you usually use? epoxy? hot glue gun?

What about two 18650 in parallel? that will be a huge box... right? maybe not a good idea...

Anyways, if someone know a place where I can order as much stuff as I need please let me know!

Madvapes.com has everything you need (or should anyway.) 2 18650's would be a huge box, but you would get damn near a week on a charge, kind of over kill if you ask me. As for the connector I just usually drill a hole and press fit the connector in case anything goes wrong it can be replaced easily, but a little epoxy will hold it nicely as well.

ETA: yeah you can use those connectors from the passthrough or buy a cheap set at madvapes. I didn't mean to solder directly to the battery, but you could if you really wanted to but you would have to be careful not to blow yourself up ;)
 
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